north korea/us summit
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Wow international loser is quite an achievement
Man some of you go sideways on the potential that something might not go right.
It could be one of the greatest deals ever. It might go wrong.
Excuse me if I have my doubts about the trustworthiness of a lifetime Commie.
Excuse me if I don't recognize Trump as my lord and god (though I voted for him and would again against virtually any Democrat).
It's okay to be a little nervous about this deal. We've made tons before with commies and they've proven they can't be trusted. Why is today suddenly different?
And don't drop the "Because Trump" line. It takes 2 to tango.
At least we didn't try to bribe them with billions of dollars. That's a positive on Trump's side.
It could be one of the greatest deals ever. It might go wrong.
Excuse me if I have my doubts about the trustworthiness of a lifetime Commie.
Excuse me if I don't recognize Trump as my lord and god (though I voted for him and would again against virtually any Democrat).
It's okay to be a little nervous about this deal. We've made tons before with commies and they've proven they can't be trusted. Why is today suddenly different?
And don't drop the "Because Trump" line. It takes 2 to tango.
At least we didn't try to bribe them with billions of dollars. That's a positive on Trump's side.
What do you estimate is our tangible cost or their tangible gain if things don't work out?
I just don't get all the hand wringing, probably because I'm missing the tangible impact of it not working out.
I just want to know what legitimize means and how kim cashes that in. With the same sanctions and isolation what is he gaining by being legitimized?
He's hoping for a loosening of sanctions (There have been sanctions against his people right?).
His people are starving. He's desperate. Making a step out of isolation into the world community might ease that.
I'm obviously spit balling because I haven't been watching or reading the news.
Maybe he's thinking if China can transition into a money player in the global economy, so can North Korea.
Ive been listening to the libs and the “this legitimizes kim” is not playing with me. We could loosen sanctions but that’s separate.
And @AC2017
I'm of the thought that "Legitimize him" is a scare word only. You legitimize someone, in this context who is an unknown. We can give trade, we can take it away. We can cancel military ops, we can resume. He may be able to import some goods for 6 months, then revert to being horrible. Okay...wooo... got us.
There may be incremental costs if this goes sideways, but the risk-reward possibilities are lopsided on the good side.
IMO that's simply because they (MSM) are using a meaningless boogey word to create perception to bash Trump in ther event that it does go sideways.
They held no desire to make Obama look bad.
"Had Barack Obama done that, Republicans would be demanding his impeachment."
https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/if-obama-had-done-this--ybJnNdkAU2G0Y50XJqQsg/
This past week has been a complete disaster
https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/if-obama-had-done-this--ybJnNdkAU2G0Y50XJqQsg/
This past week has been a complete disaster
It was Iranian money. You've bought into inaccurate messaging. It was their own money. They haven't gotten it all back, either. Did you know that?
NO! Don't go start another thread. Did you know the source of the money we "gave" Iran?
Trump said North Korean people love their dictator?
Is terrified now synonymous with love in his mind?
Is terrified now synonymous with love in his mind?
Yeah...I REALLY wasn’t referring to “GOP establishment” when I said this....
We’re all clear that the GOP Establishment isn’t your side. All things Trump and Trump supporting (with the itty bitty wiggle room of mj) is your side.
Just so we are clear.
If the US is willing to negotiate and meet and possibility enter into a deal with NK without meaningful concessions on such things as human rights, etc. it makes it more likely that other countries will be willing to do so rather than following the contain and sanction policy lead of the US in the passed....even if we don’t get a deal and want to return back to sanctions, etc.
Kind of like how meeting and dealing led to a bad deal that everybody but us is still following despite us pulling out.
That’s what it means to me.
Is it worth the risk, IMO?
Yeah....probably.
