NO. 11 OKLAHOMA STATE VS. NO. 18 OKLAHOMA
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Once the semester is over, Sammy is eligible
Perhaps he’s confusing Jo smith/chandler rogers wrestle off…..
Per Jamison's dad on Facebook, in the comments under OSU Wrestling page post " UCL Injury. Will have x-rays Monday and MRI if needed. It popped out he said. It definitely sucks", IDK how to add a picture to this, so that'll have to do haha
UCL injuries if minor are two to three weeks. Moderate is about 6-8 weeks. If Tommy John surgery is needed its 9-12+ months
I thought you were just kidding, but a takedown is now 3 points. Had no idea. Part of the new rule change where you can make one move and score 7 points (if you get him on h is back). TT took advantage of that new rule and got a major.
There were a wide range of new rule changes to make wrestling more offensive
From FloWrestling,
"NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel Passes 13 Of 14 Recommended Changes
The NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel on Thursday gave its stamp of approval to 13 of the 14 changes recommended by the college wrestling rules committee.
Jun 8, 2023 by Andy HamiltonThe NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel on Thursday gave its stamp of approval to 13 of the 14 sweeping changes recommended in April by the college wrestling rules committee.
As a result, next season will usher in a series of significant changes, though not quite as transformational as the rules committee recommended.
Three-point takedowns are on the way and dozen other rulebook changes will be made before college wrestling cranks back up this fall.
One recommended change that isn’t happening: The stipulation that a wrestler must score near-fall points and accumulate a minute or more of advantage time in order to score a riding time point.
The NCAA wrestling rules committee gets one opportunity every two years to implement changes, and the group took a big swing this year in an effort to ramp up scoring and action. Following a two-week feedback period from college coaches last month, the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel voted Thursday to move 13 of those recommendations forward.
“I like that we’re looking at things to see how we can create more action and maybe make it a little more fan-friendly as well,” Princeton coach Chris Ayres said in April. “I’m always in favor of those types of things and just evolving the sport. Sometimes I think we get stuck in our ways and we’re afraid to make some changes because we cradle the tradition of the sport. I like that they’re trying to do some different things.”
A longtime bedrock of the sport’s scoring system — the two-point takedown — has been cast aside and the value of a takedown has been increased to three.
“The people who are up in arms and unhappy about it, we can always change back,” Stanford coach Rob Koll said in April. “It’s not like these are set in stone. Why not give it a try? Let’s see what can happen. Obviously, scoring’s been down a little bit. I love the idea of a three-point takedown.”
“You give up a takedown to your back for four points at the end of the first period, the match is essentially over,” Koll said. “You can’t catch up. I always compare it to freestyle — and maybe that’s not what we’re trying to do here — but you’re down by four or five points and that match is still going. You feel like you have a shot. But with that (two-) point takedown, you have to take him down five times. Who the heck is going to do that against anybody good? The match is over. It gives a person a chance to get back in the match.”
In addition to the three-point takedown, the three-point near-fall is on the way back after being phased out in 2015 when the NCAA implemented a four-point near-fall for a wrestler who holds an opponent in danger for a four-count. Next season, near-falls will be worth two, three and four points depending on whether a wrestler receives two, three or four swipes.
Also on the list of approved changes:
— The rule which states top position wrestlers must only aggressively work to break down the opponent will change to also requiring him to pursue near-fall points and/or a pin.
“The way it’s (been) stated in the rulebook — and we changed that a little bit — it’s an attempt to break down,” said North Carolina coach Coleman Scott, a member of the rules committee. “That’s what guys were doing, so it wasn’t technically stalling. (But) that’s hard to watch for me. I’ve watched the sport for 30 years and I want guys to be viscous on top and want to turn. If you’re not incentivized to, why do it?”
— The current mandatory five-second count for waist and ankle rides will now include all situations in which the top wrestler grasps the bottom wrestler’s ankle.
— The hand-touch takedown has been eliminated, meaning all takedowns, in order to be secured, would require a demonstration of control beyond reaction time.
— Video review will now provide the referee with the authority to confirm or overturn all calls or missed calls during a video review challenged sequence rather a single move.
— The penalty for a delayed coach’s video review challenge request will be changed from a control of mat violation and team-point deduction to a loss of the video review request.
— The first medical forfeit of a tournament will count as a loss on the wrestler’s record, unless the medical forfeit occurs immediately following an injury default in the tournament.
— Standardized weigh-ins across all competition types will move to two hours or sooner rather than two hours for tournaments and one hours for duals.
— Officials can now let action continue after penalizing an illegal hold and not require a stoppage after imminent scoring finishes when the safety of wrestlers is not in danger.
— The facial hair rule — which limited wrestlers to beards of no longer than a half inch in length — has been eliminated.
— Any true placement matches in a tournament will not alter the final team score.
— Weight certification for all institutions is permitted to begin Sept. 1.
“Trying to get something done sometimes is difficult,” Oklahoma State coach John Smith said. “I was on that (rules) committee and it was really good to see this group come together and propose some things I think we all really like.”"
Not worried about Jordan Williams. He’s figuring it out. Dude is the total package. Fast, smart, strong.
Surprised to see that wrestlers' parents are discussing their kids' injuries on Facebook. Posting on social media is basically shouting to the world with a megaphone. Seems like opponents could easily scout that and take advantage.
Plott, man. What a unit. He is mean out there and I am loving it, lol. Lots of good things to say about our squad overall right now.
Now, can we just have orange singlets on for every match? Black and white singlets just don't say OSU in the same way!
Surprised to see that wrestlers' parents are discussing their kids' injuries on Facebook. Posting on social media is basically shouting to the world with a megaphone. Seems like opponents could easily scout that and take advantage.
Plott, man. What a unit. He is mean out there and I am loving it, lol. Lots of good things to say about our squad overall right now.
Now, can we just have orange singlets on for every match? Black and white singlets just don't say OSU in the same way!
Jameson or Fix? Also what is the prognosis for Surber? Very pleased with what Thompson did this past weekend. He is wrestling like a high recruit does at a weight like 174.
Lots of people on here talking about Williams problem is his gas tank and from what I have observed I think its all about heart with him. He needs more heart and fight in him. He easily gets dejected and down on himself during matches when he starts to face adversity and you could see it in his face in the third period yesterday. He had something like 30 sec to get a escape to tie the match and just didn't have the will to win and get off bottom. Now granted Willie got 2 legs in and once that happens its hard for anyone to get off bottom, but when the match is on the line in bedlam you got to want it. I just don't see that fight in him. Hopefully that changes.
I agree with your concern, but would also note he’s lucky he didn’t break his neck trying that move. Definitely dazed him. Has to be smarter in that situation knowing he isn’t wrestling scrubs anymore.
Did you see when he landed on his head. Thats crazy painful. Could have been fighting to maintain consciousness for all we know.
On the flip side it’s been a while since I’ve seen a spladle done on a top #20 guy! Man that was awesome. Most painful move I ever received in my short stint on the mat, lol
John on his radio show today "(Ryan Crookham) He's a good wrestler. Daton Fix would kick his butt", also said Daton is doing better and should see him back for Wyoming. Sounded like Surber will be longer, and they will be "conservative" but that he will be back, just a matter of when.
Per Tagen's dad on facebook(I know you guys don't like him posting there, but I'm just the messenger), going to have to do some rehab on the arm, but nothing major just UCL sprain and slight ligament tear, but should heal quickly. Doctors told them he should be back for the NC State Dual on Jan 5th.
