I don't think development would do much without addressing the exponentially growing wealth gap.I do not think that would so much. There still needs to be some development.
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I don't think development would do much without addressing the exponentially growing wealth gap.I do not think that would so much. There still needs to be some development.
GTFOH with all that. Just because you don't think it is a good solution - fine. But what I do know is that what I'm proposing would solve a lot of problems - and not just for the black community.Serious responses only please
Completely unseriousGTFOH with all that. Just because you don't think it is a good solution - fine. But what I do know is that what I'm proposing would solve a lot of problems - and not just for the black community.
You obviously have different goals here. You expect equal outcomes. That's totally unrealistic. As such, all of your solutions are as well.Completely unserious
Why should the races have unequal outcomes? Are the races unequal?You obviously have different goals here. You expect equal outcomes. That's totally unrealistic. As such, all of your solutions are as well.
The fvck? That's not what I said at all. You obviously aren't serious about any of this and are just trolling. So, you're right. Serious replies only. And you aren't that.Why should the races have unequal outcomes? Are the races unequal?
What do you think the racial wealth gap is?The fvck? That's not what I said at all. You obviously aren't serious about any of this and are just trolling. So, you're right. Serious replies only. And you aren't that.
Mostly predicated on home ownership. Of course, subsidized urban housing projects kinda killed a lot of that.What do you think the racial wealth gap is?
It's unequal outcomesMostly predicated on home ownership. Of course, subsidized urban housing projects kinda killed a lot of that.
Again, get rid of the government social safety net and a lot of this resolves itself in a generation. They always have the opposite long term effect that the politicians intended.
Yep. Caused by social safety net programs meant to help but what they really do is hinder.It's unequal outcomes
Like I said completely unserious.Yep. Caused by social safety net programs meant to help but what they really do is hinder.
You are just closed minded.Like I said completely unserious.
Blah, deflect, blah. You do you Medic.Yawn. We both know you can't define systemic racism in your own words. Nothing but your usual parroting and deflection.
It is not, not in the micro. However in the macro, it should even out.Socio economic starting points result in drastically similar outcomes - needs to be fixed.Equal outcomes isn't the goal here. The goal is to remove the impediments that prevent people from succeeding. That impediment is the promotional of generational poverty through a lifetime of government handouts.
Remove that barrier and those that are successful are the ones that make the best choices.
You've turned into Syskatine with zero personality.Blah, deflect, blah. You do you Medic.
David, I ave been reading with interest your tete a tete with Medic. I feel compelled to say you’ve been disingenuous throughout. You’ve asked us to admit there is widespread systemic racism in America, but have been unwilling to tell us what systemic racism is. How can you expect a legitimate answer?Blah, deflect, blah. You do you Medic.
Why do you think you can solve the root of the issue with out first tearing down the structures that caused it? Those well intentioned social programs are the root of the issue. Remove them, let things get back to balance. Then adjust where needed if there is a program that you think would assist.You aren't very convincing
We already tore out slavery, red lining, and Jim Crow. The only thing left is the war on drugs and the criminal justice system.Why do you think you can solve the root of the issue with out first tearing down the structures that caused it? Those well intentioned social programs are the root of the issue. Remove them, let things get back to balance. Then adjust where needed if there is a program that you think would assist.
Pretty simple really.
Wow surprised to see that you admit all of that.Social programs breed laziness and apathy. Why work when you can get money from the government for not doing anything. Even better, let them pop out kids to increase the benefits, which the kids themselves won’t see a penny of that money. More kids, more money.
Should criminals not be held accountable for committing crimes?the criminal justice system.
Who said that.Should criminals not be held accountable for committing crimes?
It's a question, not a statement.Who said that.
oh then my answer is criminals should be accountable for their crimes.It's a question, not a statement.
I'm not going to type out a thesis backed with references just to satisfy you. You'd not read it anyways.We already tore out slavery, red lining, and Jim Crow. The only thing left is the war on drugs and the criminal justice system.
You have made no case for social programs being the root of the issue. It is a ridiculous claim that requires more than some one just confidently stating it for me to take it seriously.
Wrong.We already tore out slavery, red lining, and Jim Crow. The only thing left is the war on drugs and the criminal justice system.
HUD.Is there a secret welfare for just black people?
Any evidence at all that "urban housing initiatives de-incentivize home ownership" rather than enable home ownership by allowing savings to be accumulated for a down payment? Any thoughts on why urban housing initiatives have this uniquely negative impact on the black community. As far as I can tell it is income not race based. Why does it not have the same disincentivizing effect on white people?Homeownership is down due to urban housing initiatives that de-incentivizing how ownership. Time to end them. That'll drive people to eventually purchase homes instead of renting.
There are a ton of blue collar jobs in America, its just that all the unions have been busted and the pay is shit now. Why does a supposed lack of blue collar jobs uniquely affect black people? Do white collar jobs discriminate against black people?Income is a result of driving blue collar jobs out of America through high regulation and taxation. Reduce those and blue collar jobs will return.
lol like I said completely unserious.Inheritance, I'm totally opposed to confiscation and redistribution. I've worked hard in order to make my children's lives slightly easier. I think the easier answer here is to equalize education, that results in better paying jobs, that leads to home ownership, that leads to having something left over to pass down in inheritance.
Do you have to be black to get public housing?HUD.
Straight from the HUD site.. Public housing serves black households at a rate substantially greater than their share of the renter population. Forty-eight percent of public housing households are black compared to only 19 percent of all renter households.6 Taking income into account does not alter this conclusion, since only 30 percent of households with incomes low enough to qualify for public housing are black.
I take no pleasure in such an easy victory against such an unserious opponent.Well done, you won an internet debate.
Sure.I take no pleasure in such an easy victory against such an unserious opponent.