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He’s a 3 star. I’m not saying he’s a bad prospect but his football prospects are way down the list in comparison to wrestling. I would be shocked if he’s not completely focused on wrestling within a year
4-star by rivals.

And he has a football offer from Michigan. But yeah. He listed his top 4 and Michigan wasn't in it, so it sounds like he's going to do dual-sport wherever he goes. At least that will be the plan to start.
 
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A lot can happen but him missing his junior football season definitely would slow down his football prospects. That being said, he is a freak athlete and a few good camps (in shorts and t shirts) and he can rack up some big time offers in a summer.

The way the rules are setup, he has a full scholarship offer by default on any football team so I imagine all the football coaches (Franklin, Campbell, Ferentz, Gundy) were informed and signed off on it. That used to be nice in that he doesn't count against wrestling scholarships but with roster cap rules, it doesn't let coaches add another kid.

He absolutely is a legit football prospect though, have to remember, none of us are Georgia/Oregon/Texas/Ohio State etc and we regularly take freak athletes who have a high ceiling but need polishing.
 
A lot can happen but him missing his junior football season definitely would slow down his football prospects. That being said, he is a freak athlete and a few good camps (in shorts and t shirts) and he can rack up some big time offers in a summer.

The way the rules are setup, he has a full scholarship offer by default on any football team so I imagine all the football coaches (Franklin, Campbell, Ferentz, Gundy) were informed and signed off on it. That used to be nice in that he doesn't count against wrestling scholarships but with roster cap rules, it doesn't let coaches add another kid.

He absolutely is a legit football prospect though, have to remember, none of us are Georgia/Oregon/Texas/Ohio State etc and we regularly take freak athletes who have a high ceiling but need polishing.
This kid is already 6'4" and weighing in at 220 as an inside linebacker. Once a D1 football strength/speed/conditioning program comes into play, he will be up to 250 with all muscle weight and is going to be even more dangerous on the mat.
 
Reminds me of Kueter. He was a higher wrestling prospect than football. He gave up football after his college freshman year to focus on wrestling. He went with the sport he was a better prospect for.
Kueter is planning on going back to football after the wrestling season. He took a year off to focus on wrestling after consulting with both coaching staffs
 
I see you got the cesspool treatment today 🤣 🤣 🤣
Was just making conversation with them. And I brought up a very valid point, even some of their people liked the post. That guy was more worried about keeping second than he was getting to first. That is depressing in my eyes. And to be honest, after this year and all of their transfers leave, they are not looking too good at all as a team. I was expecting it, that's just them, at least they are consistent. They are a very sensitive group! haha
 
Was just making conversation with them. And I brought up a very valid point, even some of their people liked the post. That guy was more worried about keeping second than he was getting to first. That is depressing in my eyes. And to be honest, after this year and all of their transfers leave, they are not looking too good at all as a team. I was expecting it, that's just them, at least they are consistent. They are a very sensitive group! haha
some there are scared to death that the day may come soon where 3rd is the best outcome.
 
some there are scared to death that the day may come soon where 3rd is the best outcome.
I was just looking at their lineup right now for the future, and 3rd next year would be a big surprise, unless they land some big transfers again.

If i wanted to troll them I would have brought up the lack of recruitment they have done. Deluca is all they have so far for 25 and 26. They have a ton of holes in their lineup next year, with no solid recruits coming in to fill in all of the holes. But then again, that would not be trolling, that would be all facts.

Like I said, they are definitely a sensitive group over there.
 
Was just making conversation with them. And I brought up a very valid point, even some of their people liked the post. That guy was more worried about keeping second than he was getting to first. That is depressing in my eyes. And to be honest, after this year and all of their transfers leave, they are not looking too good at all as a team. I was expecting it, that's just them, at least they are consistent. They are a very sensitive group! haha
Amen. Thin egos
 
I was just looking at their lineup right now for the future, and 3rd next year would be a big surprise, unless they land some big transfers again.

If i wanted to troll them I would have brought up the lack of recruitment they have done. Deluca is all they have so far for 25 and 26. They have a ton of holes in their lineup next year, with no solid recruits coming in to fill in all of the holes. But then again, that would not be trolling, that would be all facts.

Like I said, they are definitely a sensitive group over there.
They are on the buy a lineup train…and it’s speeding to new coaches.
 
I will always believe that the strongest teams will be constructed through recruiting and not the portal. I also believe a recruiting emphasis on finding kids that want a post-collegiate career helps negate the transfer portal against you to a degree. That's why a strong RTC is so important. It sort of portal-proofs and shields your best recruits to a degree against being picked off with money. Not full-proof but it helps.

I will also say that what goes around comes around, and Iowa with its current RTC is ripe for pilfering itself.
 
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I will always believe that the strongest teams will be constructed through recruiting and not the portal. I also believe a recruiting emphasis on finding kids that want a post-collegiate career helps negate the transfer portal against you to a degree. That's why a strong RTC is so important. It sort of portal-proofs and shields your best recruits to a degree against being picked off with money. Not full-proof but it helps.

I will also say that what goes around comes around, and Iowa with its current RTC is ripe for pilfering itself.
Good take. It's precisely why we have/had fallen behind. John always felt like the hammer was going to drop from the NCAA on these RTC's early on and so he was very leery of focusing money there. NCAA kept a hands off approach and we fell behind. Then the portal and NIL came to town and its a new day. I would say most of us dislike the new system but its a get on board or get left behind scenario. Recruit strong and use portal to our advantage as needed.
 
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I will always believe that the strongest teams will be constructed through recruiting and not the portal. I also believe a recruiting emphasis on finding kids that want a post-collegiate career helps negate the transfer portal against you to a degree. That's why a strong RTC is so important. It sort of portal-proofs and shields your best recruits to a degree against being picked off with money. Not full-proof but it helps.

I will also say that what goes around comes around, and Iowa with its current RTC is ripe for pilfering itself.
yessir!!!
 
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i will say that Tom got the new guys to buy in and compete well so far... the grocery isle hawks are the only ones showing out.
Margins are paying off right now, but they’re shrinking and will continue to do so.

Part of the “romance” of being a hawk is the fan base watching these guys grow from recruits to contenders. It was a system that forged a bond to the school and to the athlete.

That’s why they’re so cultish.
 
Margins are paying off right now, but they’re shrinking and will continue to do so.

Part of the “romance” of being a hawk is the fan base watching these guys grow from recruits to contenders. It was a system that forged a bond to the school and to the athlete.

That’s why they’re so cultish.
Part of the romance for most fans I would say is to see a recruit develop over 4-6 years. It certainly is for me. I lost interest in the pros when free agency took hold. This is no different. I'd much rather support a kid who loved my school at the beginning rather than someone who loves my team because his wallet is heavier. That doesn't track for me.
 
Good take. It's precisely why we have/had fallen behind. John always felt like the hammer was going to drop from the NCAA on these RTC's early on and so he was very leery of focusing money there. NCAA kept a hands off approach and we fell behind. Then the portal and NIL came to town and its a new day. I would say most of us dislike the new system but its a get on board or get left behind scenario. Recruit strong and use portal to our advantage as needed.
Nice take as well. 100% agree. Also, I believe since John became more involved with USA wrestling as a whole, he started to make decisions based on what he felt was best for collegiate wrestling, not just what was best for OSU wrestling, an example is, we shouldn’t focus on mid season tournaments but rather dual meets, because that will grow the fandom, (and many more examples). Well, I do agree that that would grow the fan base but it may not prepare your team for post season quite as much.
His heart was definitely in the right place and I do agree with much of his philosophies, but as you said, either you are on the train or you are left behind. Sucks, but these are the times.
 
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Says the team that just paid over $1m a year for their coach, bought Hamiti and Hendrickson in the portal (also their 2 best guys) and will end up paying more for Lockett than they think if they want to keep him.

And Penn State started this money game by paying recruits AFTER they graduated through their RTC.

Iowa is just adjusting like everyone else. But, I agree, their method is not sustainable. They need to show they can recruit out of high school as well. I think they realize this and are working a lot harder on their recruitment game.
 
Says the team that just paid over $1m a year for their coach, bought Hamiti and Hendrickson in the portal (also their 2 best guys) and will end up paying more for Lockett than they think if they want to keep him.

And Penn State started this money game by paying recruits AFTER they graduated through their RTC.

Iowa is just adjusting like everyone else. But, I agree, their method is not sustainable. They need to show they can recruit out of high school as well. I think they realize this and are working a lot harder on their recruitment game.
Hamiti is not better than Plott. Maybe Hendrickson but I don’t think so.
 
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Says the team that just paid over $1m a year for their coach, bought Hamiti and Hendrickson in the portal (also their 2 best guys) and will end up paying more for Lockett than they think if they want to keep him.

And Penn State started this money game by paying recruits AFTER they graduated through their RTC.

Iowa is just adjusting like everyone else. But, I agree, their method is not sustainable. They need to show they can recruit out of high school as well. I think they realize this and are working a lot harder on their recruitment game.
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Hamiti is not better than Plott. Maybe Hendrickson but I don’t think so.
Hamiti is THE best wrestler on the team. He is dynamic and smooth. He had Mesenbrink crushed until he crashed in the 3rd from his weight cut. He is much better than Plott — a one dimensional wrestler. No sense to debate this since it is subjective but y’all got a great one in Hamiti.
 
Hamiti is THE best wrestler on the team. He is dynamic and smooth. He had Mesenbrink crushed until he crashed in the 3rd from his weight cut. He is much better than Plott — a one dimensional wrestler. No sense to debate this since it is subjective but y’all got a great one in Hamiti.
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Hamiti is THE best wrestler on the team. He is dynamic and smooth. He had Mesenbrink crushed until he crashed in the 3rd from his weight cut. He is much better than Plott — a one dimensional wrestler. No sense to debate this since it is subjective but y’all got a great one in Hamiti.
Take a chill pill bro. No need for the toxic Iowa vibes here 😎
 
Hamiti is THE best wrestler on the team. He is dynamic and smooth. He had Mesenbrink crushed until he crashed in the 3rd from his weight cut. He is much better than Plott — a one dimensional wrestler. No sense to debate this since it is subjective but y’all got a great one in Hamiti.
And just so we are clear... the isn't the cesspool and the bs hawkeye bravado doesn't go very far here. Put the guns away and converse like a respectful visitor or hit the road. I'm great with you disagreeing but drop the ego.

First warning.
 
And just so we are clear... the isn't the cesspool and the bs hawkeye bravado doesn't go very far here. Put the guns away and converse like a respectful visitor or hit the road. I'm great with you disagreeing but drop the ego.

First warning.
Not sure that deserves a warning. It's his opinion and he wasn't a dick about it. You may not agree with it but if that's gonna get someone a warning conversations on here won't go far anymore. Just my opinion please don't warn me 😂
 
Not sure that deserves a warning. It's his opinion and he wasn't a dick about it. You may not agree with it but if that's gonna get someone a warning conversations on here won't go far anymore. Just my opinion please don't warn me 😂
As I said, I like him disagreeing but he was trying to ruffle feathers IMO.\

@Pennstate1985 @McScoreley and others have shown that you can come around here and not only fit in but be embraced (and they don't always agree with us.)
 
And just so we are clear... the isn't the cesspool and the bs hawkeye bravado doesn't go very far here. Put the guns away and converse like a respectful visitor or hit the road. I'm great with you disagreeing but drop the ego.

First warning.
Talk about sensitive 😂. Everyone here gets an award. The board can bash Iowa but I come on and say Okie State is no different than Iowa and there best wrestler is Hamiti (which he is) and I get “warned.” Oh no.
 
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