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You assume all African Americans hate free speech and are bigots, sad. Look like BYU? More bigot BS. Plenty of AA's are woke... You just want to keep them on the Dim plantation white splaining to them how they should feel about being an AA.
You know what none of that asks which is equally (and probably more) pertinent?
There's zero chance Chuba had previous knowledge of any content on OAN. Gundy didn't. You didn't. Nobody on this board or anywhere had a clue.
The real question is "Who hotboxed Chuba and fed him the line?" He didn't come up with it on his own.
@BiloxiPoke do you even care about this question, or does it not fit your agenda?
Sounds like African Americans or anyone who's at the lower end of the socio-economic scale are the ones with the problem. Look at what 65 years of "woke" liberal agenda's has done for them in the US. They are more dependent on the govt than ever. Europe is worse. Look at what 85 years of woke has done for those who are on the lower end of the socio-economic scale. Virtually nothing, but seal their fate.Nope, just 9 of 10 African American recruits. You can always find some to waive the conservative flag but it is less than 10% of them, about the same number that voted conservative in the last election which may have been 8%. It will likely be a smaller percentage than that this time around.
i don't remember any racial implications made. only thing that was publicized was his lack of involvement with the players. even the university came out with a statement claiming that.I think Gundy knew more about OAN than what you give him credit for but I highly doubt he realized their stance on BLM and I totally agree that Chuba has zero idea who OAN was or what their take on BLM even was.
What sucked and was more concerning of the whole ridiculous escapade was the racial insinuations made by former players and the volume of current players who showed support for Chuba.
Nope, just 9 of 10 African American recruits. You can always find some to waive the conservative flag but it is less than 10% of them, about the same number that voted conservative in the last election which may have been 8%. It will likely be a smaller percentage than that this time around.
You need to check out Rasmussen on this issue, one of only 2 polls to predict the last election correctly. The arrogance in which Dims assume black allegiance to Dims failed policies for the last 60 years is sad. You and Joe tell them they are not really black unless they vote for Biden? Racism at its finest. You keep saying this movement is justice for all americans but yet have failed at every corner in all the posts I have challenged you on this huge lie? You have failed to address it.
AA's are waking up fast...every single poll that has been taken in Dim cities in AA neighborhoods? All want more police, not less. But woke whitey's like you think you know what is good for them...AA's are waking up...check it out...
< 10% AA vote for Trump..... book it. Just my prediction. I’m not telling anybody anything just making a prediction when the votes are finally counted.
45% of blacks have a favorable view of Trump. Most of them are 40 and under.Nope, just 9 of 10 African American recruits. You can always find some to waive the conservative flag but it is less than 10% of them, about the same number that voted conservative in the last election which may have been 8%. It will likely be a smaller percentage than that this time around.
True and you have way more info than I ever will but those statements just looked so canned to me, I wonder how genuine... Then a few days later this whole story breaks, and it really makes me scratch my head. But you might be right Gundy is probably behind all of it.
45% of blacks have a favorable view of Trump. Most of them are 40 and under.
Fringe according to you and your liberal friends. You want to talk about fringe? Take an honest look at the Republican Party platform that Reagan ran on and take a look at the platform today. They are pretty much the same and have the same core values. Now, take a look at the Democrat Party platform of heading into the 70's and compare to today. The huge move is the left and it moves way left. It moved so far left Democrats have no idea what a moderate is anymore.OAN is a fringe conservative “news network” of which Gundy was aware prior to ShirtGate. He said he was a fan, which prompted the OAN rep to email him offering the free swag. Gundy asked for a hat as well as a shirt. Those are the facts, not an agenda. He could have asked for a hoodie for all I care, but this apparent assumption by some that Gundy was a passive consumer of OAN merch doesn’t hold water IMO. You have a media org who’s on record as repeatedly saying Black Lives Matter is a farce. Whether you agree with that or not, as the leader of a team of young Black men, it was not a good choice for Gundy to wear the shirt. Kyle Boone really enflamed the whole thing and then Chuba chimed in. It was a shit show that could have been avoided.
Again, I’m just ready for the games to be played so we can put this mess behind us.
So dnhall is all in on 90% of AA’s believing anyone that even wears anything possibly considered conservative is a racist, to that point it costs you in recruits. That is what he believes. I thought judging people in this manner was considered racist? No, not content of one’s character but the T-Shirt they wear, or hat, or how you vote.
What a bunch of hateful bigoted BS.
I’m not judging anybody. I’m predicting the percentage of AA who will vote for Trump. That’s all, nothing more.
You in 2 previous posts in this thread:
“Unless he wants African American players future and present to want to play for him.”
“Nope, just 9 of 10 African American recruits.”
Joe, you need your meds? Know what city you are in?
I didn’t judge anything with those statements. Most AA recruits will not be happy with a news organization calling BLM a terrorist, bogus organization which OAN did. It’s part of the reason Chuba called Gundy out for his support of them. Gundy himself said it made him sick when he found out what OAN had said about BLM.
The 9-10 reference is my prediction that Trump will get less than 10% of the AA vote as he did in 2016.
He didn’t try to bring down a season. He spoke up. It wasn’t the t shirt. A lot more going on.A kid tries to bring down one of our most exciting seasons in a decade and you are surprised people are talking about? People who have invested thousands of dollars and countless hours to this program their entire life? Chuba is gone in six months and he leaves in his wake a giant dirty recruiting tool for all of our competitors to use.
All because gundy wore a t shirt of a news network that was spot on in their reporting. A group called blm who have burned down sections of our country and you are surprised that people talk about athletes who align themselves with the most disgusting characters of our society?
it’s in the forefront of almost every story In the news, but “rent free!”
I'll take the over on 8% AA 2020 Trump voters for $100 if you care to wager?Nope, just 9 of 10 African American recruits. You can always find some to waive the conservative flag but it is less than 10% of them, about the same number that voted conservative in the last election which may have been 8%. It will likely be a smaller percentage than that this time around.
Either be specific or piss off.He didn’t try to bring down a season. He spoke up. It wasn’t the t shirt. A lot more going on.
Plenty of judgment in your statements.
Previously, you talked about the pure intentions of the BLM movement on this board. I had a bunch of questions for you, you have yet to answer.
You going to engage in the political dialogue we are all being asked to engage in? Can you defend what BLM has done? You even referenced the pure intentions of the movement, surely it will take work to keep it pure with actions, not silence.
Answer a few things for us: Why is the BLM movement ok with a sports announcer getting fired for saying all lives matter? Why no outcry from you if you say the movement is equal justice for all? Why if the movement is so pure does it not want the movement expanded to include all lives, particularly American Indians, Asians, and Hispanics? They tried to do this, we could have avoided more division and all of us could have worked together and had your pure movement but oh hell no. BLM was not having it. This was due to the 90% vote your politicians think they are entitled to and you saw record low AA unemployment. So, let’s use some cop shootings and other events to intentionally light a powder keg that Dims have been packing with powder for years.
Further, let’s get massive misinformation out on some of these shootings, to the point NBA athletes are making statements which shows they have no idea of of what happened. How about the AA victim’s family that said Blake deserved worse than 7 gun shots? I have seen the tweets. Does this black life and opinion not matter? Oh I forgot, black on black crime is ok because it can not be used to manipulate Dim votes.
Why not include all the AA kids being slaughtered in Chicago every week-end In this movement? Bunch of AA’s in these communities asking this but MSM dare not show it because Dem politicians would have to be held accountable for it. Why the advancement of its cause to the exclusion of others? Why has the BLM movement used riots as a form of political activism if it is so pure?
The BLM org is bogus and the movement is not pure. I posted a link earlier to one of their founders bragging they are trained marxists.
Still on their site they brag about destroying the western civilized family unit as it has been known and going to a village approach. This equals massive socialism with Marxist methods being used. Words have meaning.
Have you read their website? I have. Have you listened to one for their founders bragging about being trained Marxists? I have. Did not see it on FOX, and certainly not ever on CNN it MSNBC. Look it up.
You refuse to engage on these questions because it shows the BLM organization and the movement to be horribly flawed. You refuse to engage because you have no good answers. All you can do is repeat like a robot, “How can you disagree with justice for all Americans”. Sounds close to all lives matter, but we both know this movement has been denounced as an accepted viewpoint, such a good comrade to stick to acceptable language.
All lives can’t mattter until black lives matter? Say all lives matter, get fired and the Dims and the BLM movement approve by their silence. Dim cancel culture. Let’s shit further on Asians, Hispanics, etc....
To bad the Asian athletes are not the best in the US right now or perhaps it be might ALM.
All ignited over a horribly flawed theory that white Americans are all racist, and cop killings are proof.
This is what, my 4th attempt or so to get you to defend public information? BLM org is bogus alright, never needed a T-Shirt to tell me that.
Sad people like Gundy and Drew Brees have been shamed in to lying about who they are, just because they are afraid of being labeled a racist, even without one racist cell in their body.
It is obvious Okstate1 you are a CPA because your reading comprehension outside number crunching could use some real improvement.
No thoughtful person truly seeking social justice is for rioting, looting, violence against police or defunding police. Of course no one I know supports any violence associated with any aspect of BLM! I certainly don’t!
You and others like you lump EVERYONE supporting or within BLM seeking social justice legally and peacefully with those who aren’t. That’s disingenuous and just wrong.
I only support the purest intention of BLM which is the quest to change society enough to end racism in all its forms, ensure equal treatment for all, and allow all Americans the right to peace, prosperity, and pursuit of happiness guaranteed by our Constitution.
When you resort to violence to accomplish your ends, you lose the moral high ground.
Yes. The “purest” form of the movement is academic and political ideology that does not exist in the real world, like so many things in academia. The movement was not birthed on a pure form of all races matter.
Still, the aim is pure .....
Your movement lumps all whites based on the actions of a few cops. Talk about disingenuous and wrong. Why is it BLM does not come out and ask AA’s to not go around randomly shooting cops? Do you not think it would help the situation tremendously? Is it not their moral responsibility for them to do so since they claim to be the purest form of the anti-racism movement? You still fly over all of these facts. One of the founders of BLM bragged about being a trained marxist, those are her words and you fail to address it and say I have a comprehension problem?
Let me know when BLM movement denounces the violence. Let me know when the BLM movement embraces all lives matter, until it does your view of the movement is accepting a big lie.
You ignore tough questions with broad strokes and words that have no meaning in light of the facts.
Financial professionals and auditors rely on facts, we are really good at that. Have to be able to read and apply accounting principles to get to an accurate result and opinion. Emotions have nothing to do with how words and data are interpreted, my world is color blind and based on actual results. You know little about finance and accounting if you think great reading comprehension is not required. Well disciplined in this area. Thanks for the compliment, and readers are leaders for sure.
If you want the movement to accomplish anything at all, at some point the hideous side of the movement will have to be eliminated. You are losing support over the violence, not gaining. And the movement does absolutely zero to stop it. You base your opinion on emotions, I base them on actual actions and results, my way seems the least racist way to judge a situation.
With all due respect, Many in the Black community denounce violence and black on black crime. To say that doesn’t happen is just plain wrong. Nobody trying to move our country forward in how minorities and people of color are treated in society condone violence or Marxist propaganda.
The peaceful context movement has no specified leader no one mouthpiece to denounce what you want denounced because it’s comprised of people of color from all nationalities. Perhaps that’s why in that vacuum some of the belligerents have stated reported intent that peaceful protesters want no part of and certainly don’t agree with.
With all due respect, Many in the Black community denounce violence and black on black crime. To say that doesn’t happen is just plain wrong. Nobody trying to move our country forward in how minorities and people of color are treated in society condone violence or Marxist propaganda.
The peaceful context movement has no specified leader no one mouthpiece to denounce what you want denounced because it’s comprised of people of color from all nationalities. Perhaps that’s why in that vacuum some of the belligerents have stated reported intent that peaceful protesters want no part of and certainly don’t agree with.
No, it is not. LOL. That is just emotional imagination wishing that it was true. Nothing about what we are seeing today is pure, nothing. If BLM was acting on ALL fronts and forms of racism today I would buy it, but they are not.
Race relations are being made worse, not better, and fast. We now have blacks randomly killing cops and running to the ER yelling for the pigs to die and laughing about it. Before the so called movement we had none of that. No amount of white shaming is going to reverse the damage done. Let's lie about Jacob Blake and cause more Cop killings.
Stay woke bro, fits you well. You really need to consider moving to a Democratic big city to enjoy a more "perfect union". All kinds of riots to attend as well, no masks required. Go raise your fist and call cops pigs and run to the ER to taunt them as the struggle to live. Woke lifestyle is great.
I love it here because family is here. So won’t be moving.
The majority of Okies proudly assert their conservatism that has this state near last in every category of quality of life measures, like healthcare access, health outcomes, teen pregnancy, COVID infection rates, support for education, incarceration rates, percentage of college graduates etc. but by golly, we like being at the bottom and besides, it costs money to try and change it!
Some of us, a definite minority, think we can do better! It’s fun to dream instead of accept the status quo!
Okies? Thought you believed in a pure movement, free of racism?
Look, another casedemic fear monger. Plenty of historic data now to know what this virus is about if you really do care about the science.
Another I guess that believes in instant parole for criminals, or not locking up violent criminals, just like they are doing with the rioters and the new bail program in NYC, Feds had to step in, in some areas. Guess your incarcerations rates drop if you do not enforce the laws, that is a great lib plan, and they even help those who commit violent crimes now. Oklahoma did pass meaningful legislation recently in this area.
You sure love them liberal polls that deflect real problems. The Dims gives high grades to themselves while their cities to turn to complete shit. Yes, I miss OKC having 3 months of rioting, businesses burning down, murders, etc... Or stepping by tent cities on sidewalks in front of businesses with needles and feces everywhere.
Those really smart schools from the BIG and PAC got trucked over COVID by the Big 12, ACC, and SEC. Evidently hard to find common sense in liberal ivory tower schools, but they sure brag about how right they always are and shame others who do not agree.
Or how about living in California that has so many homeless people living and camping on the sidewalks and there is more human feces lying around than animal feces? Or how about the 160 CEO's that wrote the Mayor of NYC, begging the Mayor to make NYC safe again? If our "education" rate was that bad, how come OKC or Tulsa does not have the homeless problems of LA or San Fran? I hear it is hard to get a good paying job to pay off the over priced lib degree in social studies or humanities, etc.... My son in-law is a HS grad and became a plumber and is making BANK, really young guy. You can teach yourself to make a living with your hands and hard work. The type of people libs look down on.
Chicago and NYC is being looked at for international travel warning due to all the murders.
Bunch of people in Oklahoma have real jobs and do not need a worthless liberal arts degree with a ton of debt to keep people like you employed in academia teaching meaningless subject matter.
Dims need shit hole cities to keep selling people they are the only answer to their problems, a bunch are catching on, after at least 60 years they are starting to catch on. The most racist Prez ever delivered the lowest unemployment rate to asians, hispanics, latinos, and AA's, the previous Prez said he had no wand.