"When the truth is he’s one of the candidates that cannot win."
Who are the others who cannot win?
Wow. Just Wow.
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Who are the others who cannot win?
Who out there would have handled the pandemic to your satisfaction? Biden, Obama, Hillary, Newsome, Kamala, Big Mike, Bush, Chris Christie, DeSantis, Haley, Scott, JFK Jr, Cornell West or someone else? Who could have lived up to your standards out there in the face of the unprecedented pandemic, political division, the full court press of Democrats and the MSM with their disinformation and censorship actions. How about anywhere in the world that handled it any better? China, Russia, the EU, someone else?
You can lay blame on Trump if you want but you are ignoring the fact Democrats, the deep state and the MSM used the once in a 100 year pandemic to work against and try to destroy the Trump presidency. Think about that, a political party in this country put themselves above the welfare and safety of the people for their own benefit. That should scare the shit out of you but nope it makes you work against Trump, Republicans and keeps Democrats in control. SMFH some real good thinking there.
IMO Trump's gut instinct was right about Covid and his first reactions were correct. What failed was the unelected politically biased, corrupt government institutions whose sole purpose is to protect the American people. If you notice not a single thing has been to correct that problem or hold anyone of them accountable. What does that tell you? The CDC lied to us, Fauci lied to us, Democrats lied to us, the MSM lied to us, big tech censored anyone who dared question anything or spoke out against the insane government reaction to Covid yet nothing has been done to correct this. Why is that? Sadly critical thinking in this country has been lost by the vast majority and it is beyond terrifying.
Out of all of them I would say DeSantis is the only one who knew the right thing to do and did it.
Abbott did a decent job as well but why were they able to when Trump wasn't? Come on Dan, drop your bias and think it thru. You can do it.
I think DeSantis is the only sure thing, and I think he'd win in a slam dunk. Ramaswamy, maybe. None of the others. By my admittdly off the cuff very unscientific calculaions the best I can see Trump getting is 47% of the vote in the general election. What did he get last time? 48-49%? I don't think he can top that, in fact I expect his numbers would go down, not up. The 2022 elections in which his endorsed candidates got walloped across the country should be a wake-up call to Trump supports that maybe they need to move on.
But let's pretend he sneaks in like he did last time by getting the electoral vote but not the popular vote. Do you remember how the "losers" reacted to that? Don't you think if he back-doored his way in again they would react a little more harshly? I do. Why would we put the country through that again?
I do have one caveat, however. I started another thread, "Joe Biden Can Kiss My Ass," which reports that Biden says he's going to mandate - require! - all Americans, including children, to take the new vaccine that is coming out. If he does that the game will be over, Charles Manson would beat Biden even though he's dead. Trump cannot win without a lot of help. That would be a giant boost.
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Don't know about Abbott, but DeSantis did it because he showed he had the stones to defy the so-called experts in face of an incredibly hostile reaction by the swamp. Trump's nuts shriveled to the size of snow peas, and his cowardice cost him his coveted re-election.
In your own words DeSantis would have handled the pandemic better but you support JFK Jr?
Oh, I apologize, I didn't see you had included RFK Jr. in your list. I think Jr. would have handled it the best of all of them. He'd have axed the entire group of bureaucrats that put this country through authoritarian hell and enjoyed doing it.
What, specifically, would you have done differently than Trump vis a vis the China Flu?
I would have told Fauci et al, to STFU, and when they didn't I would have fired them on the spot. I would have told the American people "this is what we know, this is what we think we know but are not sure it is accurate, this is what we recommend you do to protect yourself, but this is a free society and we are not going to resort to authoritarian measures to 'protect' you."
That doesn't matter very much. The president has a huge bullhorn, and a president with any courage would have lambasted states that utilized authoritarianism on its citizens. He could have directed his DOJ (if its swamp had been drained like promised) to seek all federal measures to counter the authoritarianism. He could have whipped his congress into action to stop the authoritarianism. Trump did none of that. He "rushed" a vaccine that proved to be worthless, even dangerous, and acted like he'd done a great thing. The American people did not seem to think it was all that great, they axed him at the first opportunity. At the very least he should have fired the upper echelon of the CDC en masse. Instead he hid behind them like a scared school girl terrified to defy what they were telling us. DeSantis, OTOH, told those same authorities to pound sand. Trump's reaction? Crticize DeSantis. And now Trump mouths off like he's the one with big balls, and his fanatics feel a tingle down their legs.
How would RFK Jr been able to overcome the disinformation and lies of his own government agencies?
Trump should have fired fired the upper echelon of the CDC in masse? LMAO how out of touch with reality are you? Democrats were in the process of their first false impeachment based on lies and you think Trump would have fired the upper echelon of the CDC. LMAO you do live in a world with unrealistic expectations and standards.
There in lies the problem and where the blame lies for the problem. Democrats were playing politics for their own benefit while the ones that suffered because of it were the American people. Your scorn is misdirected.
"The American people did not seem to think it was all that great, they axed him at the first opportunity."
Bingo. That kind of stuff right there is why it's hard to take the guy seriously.
"The American people did not seem to think it was all that great, they axed him at the first opportunity."
You said in an earlier thread the dems cheated to win in 2020. Which is it, did the dems cheat to win or did Trump legitimately lose?
Yep, one minute he’s Trump will be a dictator if he cleans house.
The next he’s pissed because he didn’t.
Trump clearly won on Election Day. Get rid of the corrupt blue precinct cheating
His hatred of Trump has destroyed his self awareness. I’m find it entertaining.
"I guess the thing that most baffles me is: what is it you want, and what has Trump ever done to make you think he’ll get it for you? The man is big talk with little results."
Does it bother you that the people you call "fanatics" just have good memories?
— Lowest black unemployment in American history.
— Lowest Hispanic unemployment in American history.
— Lowest female unemployment in decades.
— Stock market going through the roof.
— Record 401(k) gains.
— America energy independent for the first time in decades.
— Record low gasoline prices.
— No new foreign wars.
— Multiple peace treaties signed in Middle East.
— Positive economic headlines on a regular basis.
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One of the reasons I like Trump is he wasn't cowering down from Democrats, the biased MSM and the deep state actors that did everything they could to destroy his Presidency. Even with the unprecedented proven false attacks, the faux impeachments and the abuse of power by the DOJ to punish him, Trump is still standing and hasn't backed down one bit. I don't care if you like or hate Trump the fact he is still standing up fighting back is impressive. Every other President or politician would have bowed down to go along to save their sorry ass long ago.
When it comes to his public persona you are right that he insulted back against the Democrats, MSM, etc. as good or better than he got. And that he has withstood the abuse and persecution they have put him through is impressive, I can’t think of any other politician that would still be standing. That’s on the one hand.
On the other hand, something that goes almost unrecognized on this board, as president he very often quietly capitulated to the vagaries of the Deep State on matters of importance (ending war, wall on southern border, etc.). And he depends on his loyal supporters to ignore those capitulations and pretend they never happened.
Yin and Yang, Good and Bad. The Democrats can see only one side, the Trump loyalists only the other.
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While you see neither. I've never agreed 100% with any politician, not Reagan, not Trump. Maybe one day there will be one that comes along but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Reagan had an immensely loyal following that stuck with him through thick and thin, good and bad. I was a College Republican at OSU during those years and also served on the state board of College Republicans. We were called cultists quite often. And fanatics. We laughed at it.
No you see neither, as you expect something that does not exist anywhere in the world, perfection.
From Washington DC? Don't be naïve. If we've learned anything over the last few years is Washington DC and the MSM are anything but honest.
I would think by now you know me well enough to know I’m not naive. I expect honesty and when I don’t get it I call out the dishonesty and those who are, and I don’t care whether it’s someone from the Biden/Democrat camp or the Trump/MAGA camp. One thing I have been surprised by, which indicates a level of naivety on my part, has been the willingness and extent to which the supporters of the Trump/MAGA camp to overlook and justify the dishonesty of their leader. I expected it from the other team as its natural state, but I stupidly thought the Trump team would not be so bad.
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