Weekend Upsets with WrestleStat - Week 10

[andegre]

Wow, another GREAT weekend of wrestling with PLENTY of upsets.

The big [literally] upset of the weekend happened in the Michigan vs Oregon State dual where Michigan pulled the redshirt on true freshman heavyweight Mason Parris. Parris put on a dominating performance knocking off Amarveer Dhesi.

In the Northwestner vs Nebraska dual, Tyler Berger has really stepped up this season where he knocked off #2 Ryan Deakin. It was less than a month ago where Berger last match saw him upset #3 Hidlay.

285 - #7 Mason Parris (Michigan) beat #1 Amarveer Dhesi (Oregon State) by DEC 11 - 4 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/51176/parris-mason/profile
157 - #4 Tyler Berger (Nebraska) beat #2 Ryan Deakin (Northwestern) by DEC 6 - 3 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/20096/berger-tyler/profile
285 - #13 Derek White (Oklahoma State) beat #3 Nick Nevills (Penn State) by DEC 4 - 0 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/20107/white-derek/profile
165 - #5 Josh Shields (Arizona State) beat #3 Logan Massa (Michigan) by DEC 7 - 3 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/39511/shields-josh/profile
165 - #10 Chance Marsteller (Lock Haven) beat #4 Chandler Rogers (Oklahoma State) by DEC 3 - 1 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/47805/marsteller-chance/profile
157 - #11 Christian Pagdilao (Arizona State) beat #5 Alec Pantaleo (Michigan) by DEC 6 - 2 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/20575/pagdilao-christian/profile
197 - #16 Tom Sleigh (Virginia Tech) beat #8 Dakota Geer (Oklahoma State) by DEC 9 - 3 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/19710/sleigh-tom/profile
197 - #14 Nathan Traxler (Stanford) beat #8 Dakota Geer (Oklahoma State) by DEC 9 - 7 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/45395/traxler-nathan/profile
141 - #107 Jack Mutchnik (American) beat #9 Corey Shie (Army) by SV-1 3 - 1 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/13900/mutchnik-jack/profile
184 - #40 Alan Clothier (Appalachian State) beat #9 Chris Weiler (Lehigh) by DEC 8 - 5 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/45412/clothier-alan/profile
141 - #26 AC Headlee (North Carolina) beat #9 Corey Shie (Army) by DEC 8 - 4 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/39627/headlee-ac/profile
184 - #13 Louie DePrez (Binghamton) beat #9 Chris Weiler (Lehigh) by DEC 5 - 2 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/49046/deprez-louie/profile
285 - #13 Derek White (Oklahoma State) beat #9 Thomas Haines (Lock Haven) by FALL 4:08 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/20107/white-derek/profile
197 - #50 Kellan Stout (Pittsburgh) beat #10 Jake Woodley (Oklahoma) by DEC 4 - 3 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/39528/stout-kellan/profile
184 - #15 Hunter Bolen (Virginia Tech) beat #10 Jacobe Smith (Oklahoma State) by DEC 3 - 1 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/49335/bolen-hunter/profile
184 - #13 Louie DePrez (Binghamton) beat #10 Jacobe Smith (Oklahoma State) by DEC 6 - 2 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/49046/deprez-louie/profile
133 - #14 Austin Gomez (Iowa State) beat #11 Roman Bravo-Young (Penn State) by FALL 3:57 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/49153/gomez-austin/profile
141 - #80 Chris Debien (Chattanooga) beat #12 Cole Matthews (Pittsburgh) by DEC 10 - 8 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/39720/debien-chris/profile
133 - #66 Lane Peters (Army) beat #12 Josh Terao (American) by DEC 3 - 2 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/45639/peters-lane/profile
133 - #59 Gary Wayne Harding (North Carolina) beat #12 Josh Terao (American) by DEC 5 - 2 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/20270/wayne-harding-gary/profile
133 - #26 Montorie Bridges (Wyoming) beat #12 Josh Terao (American) by DEC 3 - 2 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/44844/bridges-montorie/profile
184 - #27 Noah Stewart (Army) beat #14 Tanner Harvey (American) by DEC 7 - 4 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/44599/stewart-noah/profile
184 - #21 Chip Ness (North Carolina) beat #14 Tanner Harvey (American) by MD 17 - 5 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/20118/ness-chip/profile
184 - #20 Tate Samuelson (Wyoming) beat #14 Tanner Harvey (American) by DEC 4 - 2 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/57066/samuelson-tate/profile
149 - #64 Matthew Zovistoski (Appalachian State) beat #15 Jarod Verkleeren (Penn State) by FALL 7:00 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/40049/zovistoski-matthew/profile
141 - #35 Sa'Derian Perry (Old Dominion) beat #15 Anthony Cheloni (Northern Illinois) by FALL 1:45 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/40084/perry-sa'derian/profile
285 - #29 Joey Goodhart (Drexel) beat #15 Billy Miller (Virginia Tech) by DEC 4 - 3 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/19849/goodhart-joey/profile
285 - #26 Matthew Voss (George Mason) beat #15 Billy Miller (Virginia Tech) by DEC 4 - 3 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/19908/voss-matthew/profile
141 - #27 Chad Red (Nebraska) beat #16 Yahya Thomas (Northwestern) by MD 10 - 1 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/44683/red-chad/profile
141 - #67 Josh Finesilver (Duke) beat #17 Grant Aronoff (Pennsylvania) by MD 14 - 6 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/46112/finesilver-josh/profile
157 - #53 Josh McClure (North Carolina) beat #18 Luke Weiland (Army) by DEC 3 - 1 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/44697/mcclure-josh/profile
149 - #49 Tejon Anthony (George Mason) beat #18 Alec Hagan (Ohio) by SV-1 3 - 1 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/19896/anthony-tejon/profile
141 - #22 Nicholas Gil (Navy) beat #18 Cameron Kelly (Ohio) by DEC 3 - 2 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/40255/gil-nicholas/profile
157 - #59 Logan Parks (Central Michigan) beat #19 Larry Early (Old Dominion) by DEC 4 - 0 http://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/40153/parks-logan/profile

 

[Cypresspoke]

So does Derek White finally break the top 10...?

 

[Old Number Nine]

So does Derek White finally break the top 10...?

Agreed! I think you should rework whatever it is that you use for your rankings:
Derek White; 285; Oklahoma State
FlowWrestling; Ranked 3rd
InterMat; Ranked 3rd
TheOpenMat; Ranked 3rd
NCAA.com; Ranked 4th

This is kind of a consensus, wouldn't you say?

 

[PokeGrad05]

Nice to see GWH have some success at UNC. Good win for him over Terao.

 

[andegre]

Agreed! I think you should rework whatever it is that you use for your rankings:
Derek White; 285; Oklahoma State
FlowWrestling; Ranked 3rd
InterMat; Ranked 3rd
TheOpenMat; Ranked 3rd
NCAA.com; Ranked 4th

This is kind of a consensus, wouldn't you say?

Those other services are primarly season-based, while WrestleStat is career-based. Therefore, his losses early in his career are what's keeping him down.

We're looking into an enhancement for next season where we accommodate the "late bloomers", but that version isn't ready yet (according to the RTR score).

 

[Wrassler17]

Those other services are primarly season-based, while WrestleStat is career-based. Therefore, his losses early in his career are what's keeping him down.

We're looking into an enhancement for next season where we accommodate the "late bloomers", but that version isn't ready yet (according to the RTR score).

Not trying to make more work for you, but would it make sense to segregate the wrestlers' ELO scores by weight class?

Some guys are completely different wrestlers when they change weight classes. Like Derek White at 197 & 285 or Seth Gross at 141 & 133.

 

[andegre]

Not trying to make more work for you, but would it make sense to segregate the wrestlers' ELO scores by weight class?

Some guys are completely different wrestlers when they change weight classes. Like Derek White at 197 & 285 or Seth Gross at 141 & 133.

Valid point. It's been taken into consideration, but we're not sure on the best way to do the adjustment. We've looked into getting the average Elo for a specific ranking across all weights, then adjust based on that (for example #9 at 197 = 1400.00 whereas at 285 it may be 1385. So the wrestler moving up would have their Elo adjusted from 1400 to around 1385...)

 

[Wrassler17]

Valid point. It's been taken into consideration, but we're not sure on the best way to do the adjustment. We've looked into getting the average Elo for a specific ranking across all weights, then adjust based on that (for example #9 at 197 = 1400.00 whereas at 285 it may be 1385. So the wrestler moving up would have their Elo adjusted from 1400 to around 1385...)

How about maintaining separate ELO scores for each wrestler by weight class? And then weighting them? Not sure if that makes sense or is "do-able".

I don't know if there is a good analogy with wrestling weight classes and chess. Maybe if ELO ratings were kept separate by gender? Or age? The best woman chess player loses to the top men, but she is still the best female player.