US Office for Palestinian Affairs called for Israelis to 'refrain from violence and retaliatory attacks' in now deleted post
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Thank god you are not in any type of leadership position, this country is already fvked enough with the people you voted for in charge.
Simple go back to Trumps sanction and strictly enforce them. The Iranian regime was struggling to maintain control until Biden saved them. Support Israel with military equipment, logistics and intelligence. Other than that just turn the Israelis lose give them the support they need and let them go after the Iranian leadership.
Were they?
Do the sanctions hurt the Iranian government or the Iranian people?
So to heck with the Palestinians, correct? Do they not matter to you? Does their plight not matter to you? Or are they not worthy to be treated as human beings?
All you are proposing is a path to more extremism. Your solution is to double down and do the same thing that hasn't ever worked. To continue to create an environment for more violence, more hate, and more death.
Both. I have family and friends that live in Iran, they want the regime gone. While they would suffer in the short term they are suffering now under a totalitarian regime and much prefer freedom.
Nope, about the same way you view the Russians. They act like an enemy they get treated like an enemy. Don't want to be treated like the enemy quit acting like one.
We have never allowed the Israelis to handle the problem but after this attack I have a feeling the gloves are off.
So how does hurting the Iranian people help us in taking down the Iranian regime? Especially when that regime blames the USA and Israel the Iranian people's plight?
Don't we just play right into the hands of the Iranian regime? We help it to make its case?
Russia and Ukraine is a completely different situation. Remember, Russia invaded a sovereign country.
What does "handling" the situation for the Israelites look like to you? Killing more Palestinians? Treating more Palestinians inhumanly? Making more Palestinians angry at Israel and willing to turn to extremist groups?
Seriously man, why can't you just embrace stopping this madness? Get off Fox News for a bit and really think about what you are advocating for and where it actually leads.
I disagree with the part that violence solves nothing.
History has proven that violence sometimes HAS TO trump violence.
Point taken.
I would counter by noting that what I'm speaking of is violence within the lawful context. The "unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation" to arrive at a set goal (per Google's definition of violence under the context of the law) is the violence I'm speaking of.
For example, the Allies in WWII were justified in lawful violence against the Nazi Germany regime due to what that regime had already done and was doing (unlawful violence). Of course, one could argue that the aftermath of WWI helped create the environment for that regime but still, such violence in response was necessary and legal at the time.
I do not believe the same can be said for either side of the Palestine/Israel conflict. I readily admit that there are those on both sides who would disagree though. I think their reasoning though is faulty and only propagates further illegal violence.
Tell me you know nothing about Iran without telling me. SMFH
Hamas didn't invade Israel? I guess it was my imagination. SMFH
The Palestinians are already extremist and always have been. Why do you think no Arab county in the Middle East wants anything to do with them. Jeez do some reading.
I'm all for stopping the madness, the Palestinians refuse. Instead of fighting Israel maybe they should try to improve their lives. They receive billions in humanitarian aid, maybe they should actually use it on humanitarian needs instead of fighting Israel.
I know plenty about Iran, do you?
Has our approach to Iran worked since the late 1970s? Last time I checked, the same regime in Iran still holds power.
Wake up.
The land is disputed between the Israelites and the Palestinians. They both hold claim to it.
When was the current state of Israel founded? What and who was there before that?
Seriously Bearcat, think just a little bit.
So you believe all Palestinians are extremists? Seriously?
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This comment shows how clueless you are.
How are they suppose to improve their lives when they consistently are denied basic human rights? When they are consistently called extremists by people like you? When people like you refuse, absolutely refuse, to understand their plight?
Again, read this article. Do you defend what is reporting in this article? Tell me, how are the Palestinians in the West Bank suppose to improve their lives under such conditions?
In the West Bank, Israel’s Apartheid Rule Results in Everyday Violence
Palestinians would be living in a tourist meca given their location if they weren't controlled by a terrorist organization that does not want peace or a two state solution but the death of all Jews and uses Palestinians as human shields. Israel has been restrained but now they are prepared to go through the shields to get to the murdering terrorists.
Hamas is responsible for the death and destruction that is coming the Palestinians way.
Hamas is responsible for the death and destruction that is coming the Palestinians way.
I think Hamas expected Israel to hastily chase them back into Gaza. Probably wasn't the best expectation if they did. It looks like Israel is making moves to simply lay siege and bomb/starve them to surrender/death. I don't think Hamas was smart enough to realize all of Gaza is effectively an Israeli hostage.
Yep every time a dumbass Democrat gets into office they save Iran from collapse. Almost like Democrats are on Team Iran. That's what happens when you have Iran loyalist inside Democrat Administrations.
Palestine has no claim to Israel. Several wars have been fought over the land, the Jewish people won, end of story.
You should read some real history n the subject not the propaganda you've obviously been fed.
What rights are those. LGBTQ rights?
Why do you think Israel needs a military presence in that area? Could it be because the Palestinians keep attacking the Jews?
The Palestinians had the sympathy of the world until they did this, they lost it all with this attack. That's not on Israel that's on the Palestinians. There is absolutely zero justification for this attack on Israel. You know it and so does the rest of the world.
Good for them. I hope they stockpiled a lot of supplies. They already had a bunch of needy people on their hands before their latest round of terrorism. Maybe stop buying rockets and do something for the people they "govern?"
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I'm not the one that's going to be responsible for the deaths of the Palestinian lives that Hamas claims responsibility for governing. Hamas gets all the credit for those.
Yeah, this could be said about both sides.
And who is responsible for the deaths of the Israeli lives that the Israeli government claims responsibility for governing?
Who gets all the credit for those?
Hamas. Any other dumbass questions?
Are you a Hamas apologist now? I'm sure the infants and elderly Holocaust survivors were big threats to the Hamas terrorists.
Except it can't.
So your rationale is that Hamas is responsible for the deaths they bring upon their own people because of their actions but the government of Israel is not responsible for the deaths they bring upon their own people because of their actions?
Only Hamas is responsible for their actions, not the government of Israel?
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Talk about a one-sided bias incoherent position.
Dang, you wouldn't even apply such faulty logic to your own government lol!
Nope. I condemn in the strongest terms the violence Hamas commits.
And I'm sure the infant and elderly Palestinians in the West Bank are big threats to Israel.🙄
It absolutely can be said.
You want to keep supporting the death of Israelites and Palestinians, that is on you.
I stand with all those who support peace and an end to the violence. Maybe one day you will join us.
No you don't. You blame it on Israel. Sick.
I'm patiently awaiting your links to video showing Israel kidnapping infants and elderly Holocaust survivors...
I'll just let your quote stand for itself.
Stop banging your head against the wall with this clown. He repeats the same narrow, antisemitic propaganda he consumes from the Daily Kos.
No I don't.
Again, I condemn the violence from Hamas. Period. It isn't right and no one should ever defend it. Illegal violence is never the answer.
Your propaganda isn't working on me Meds. Maybe try something new? Or perhaps try to have a reasonable conversation with me about all of this? Is that possible for you?
I've given links already on these threads discussing the inhumane treatment of the Palestinians. Go and look. They are there if you care to read them. There are more I could give too.
But I don't really want to do that. I don't care about trying to one up you on which side is the worst. Both sides have committed wrongs. Both sides have committed inhumane actions.
Again though, I want peace. I want both sides to stop fighting, stop killing, and stop the madness. I want a two-state solution where both sides live in peace.
Why do you oppose such a vision? Why are you so invested in war, death, and destruction?
These are human beings we are talking about, on both sides. Just like you and I. They have families and dreams, just like you and I.
Thank you.
Or, wait for it, the ever hard hitting factual "Jacobin."
From their about...
Jacobin is a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture.
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Quote where I have said anything that is antisemitic.
Go ahead. I keep asking this from you guys and not one of you have been able to give such a quote.
You just repeat your silly propaganda with no evidence.
Yawn.
Do better Mr. Fox News.
What in the article is untrue?
Did you even read the article?
If I may interject with my two cents (pun intended): I find it peculiar that @my_2cents recognizes the very real provocation that Hamas (and probably most of the Palestinian people) feel they have had to endure from the apartheid policies the Israeli government has made them endure to the point they invaded Israel in retaliation, but insists there were no NATO policies that caused Russia to invade Ukraine.
The quality of Palestinian life under Israeli rule has been nothing short of unbearable. That being said there is no justification - none! - for Hamas to attack in such a sadistic depraved satanic way, and even though any sane person should call for a cease fire, please stop killing each other, it is very understandable that the indignation the people of Israel feel will not allow it to go unpunished two times over. Human beings can be some of the most disgusting species in the animal kingdom.
Rant over, I’m off to bed!
The quality of Palestinian life under Israeli rule has been nothing short of unbearable. That being said there is no justification - none! - for Hamas to attack in such a sadistic depraved satanic way, and even though any sane person should call for a cease fire, please stop killing each other, it is very understandable that the indignation the people of Israel feel will not allow it to go unpunished two times over. Human beings can be some of the most disgusting species in the animal kingdom.
Rant over, I’m off to bed!
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I was waiting for this. I knew you couldn't let our agreement last too long lol.
Here is the difference Dan. Ukraine is a sovereign country. Thus if they want to join NATO, that is their right. Russia doesn't get to dictate to Ukraine what Ukraine's alliances are allowed to be.
I would hold the same position for a sovereign Israel and Palestine. Both would enjoy the right to align with whoever they want to. Without being invaded by the other.
Same goes for the USA. No other country dictates to us whom we form alliances with. And no other country invades us to force their will upon us.
Just as we were wrong to invade Cube and try to force our will upon them. Or when we went into Vietnam and tried to force our will upon them.
See how this works Dan? Think about it.
Again, @Medic007 . . . explain how that quote of mine is "antisemitic"?
Got anything, anything at all?
A whole shit load of people buying in to that crap, too.
Yawn @Medic007,you are literally making no point or any sense lol.
Stop being chicken**** and state your viewpoint.
Yes, Ukraine is a sovereign country.
So is Israel (which I've already admitted genius, which again, how does that make me anti-Semitic?).
So is Palestine.
Do you have any logical response to me at this point? Anything at all?
Fox News not helping huh?🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stop being chicken**** and state your viewpoint.
Yes, Ukraine is a sovereign country.
So is Israel (which I've already admitted genius, which again, how does that make me anti-Semitic?).
So is Palestine.
Do you have any logical response to me at this point? Anything at all?
Fox News not helping huh?🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ll retract my statement if the evidence of this unlawful violence is proven to be fabricated.
However, if it’s factual, I’ll hold my position of humanity in the context of history.
There’s no nuance for kidnapping and rape.
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