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I am still appalled the morning after. I mean Daton has flankers in w wrist control. His favorite top position. Doesn’t have to turn him. Still don’t understand any rule that a ref would call that. Guess real question is, if that was Suriano or a penn st guy on top, would a stalemate be called?
I am still appalled the morning after. I mean Daton has flankers in w wrist control. His favorite top position. Doesn’t have to turn him. Still don’t understand any rule that a ref would call that. Guess real question is, if that was Suriano or a penn st guy on top, would a stalemate be called?
Not kidding. Completely agree with u. BS
Right? And remember the refs also called Valencia for a headgear violation against Hall a couple of years ago. Shocking.
The headgear pull directly led to a Valencia takedown. You have to make that call. Btw, I agree that the stalemate call shouldn't have happened.
I don’t know the ref’s name, and really don’t want to know it
Did you not watch the Fix match/video? The headgear grab was the reason Suriano got the winning take down and the only reason as Daton grabbed his headgear and Suriano went around for the take down.
You have to make that call.
It's called "30 second rideouts" for a reason. There's a difference in the purpose there. Riding without working toward a fall is not considered a stall during that part of the match. Only things that are specific criteria for a fall are stalemate/stall worthy. It seems they knew that rule the prior 30 second rideout with Suriano.
That being said, Daton shouldn't have stopped wrestling and reached for his headgear to protest. He should have continued scrambling and looked for a trail leg to roll over. Coaches have protest bricks to throw for headgear grabs. It was unfair, and a heartbreaking lesson, but hopefully one we never have to experience again.
Yes, I saw it. Suriano's hand was definitely on the headgear but I didn't see a pull. Disclaimer, my vision may not have been 20/20 last night so I'll have to check the replay....
It's called "30 second rideouts" for a reason. There's a difference in the purpose there. Riding without working toward a fall is not considered a stall during that part of the match. Only things that are specific criteria for a fall are stalemate/stall worthy. It seems they knew that rule the prior 30 second rideout with Suriano.
I watched it again on flo. Pretty obvious that the ref had predetermined that if Fix threw the boots in that he was going to call a stalemate. It was only a couple of seconds after Fix gained real control, like when we all pumped our fists in the air, knowing that Fix was about to win the title, that the ref called stalemate. I know it's a judgement call. From now on, I don’t know the ref’s name, and really don’t want to know it, but I expect him to call it that way every single time. I wonder if that’s a stalemate if the ref’s son is in the top position about to win a national title?
Yes, I saw it. Suriano's hand was definitely on the headgear but I didn't see a pull. Disclaimer, my vision may not have been 20/20 last night so I'll have to check the replay....
It's like the ref had been reading the Hawkeye board since the Iowa-Ok State dual when Fix rode Desanto with both boots in for almost an entire period.
I thought I saw Fix make eye contact with the ref right after the boots were in and the ref called stalemate. If he would have messed with something else and not stopped to look at the ref it may not have been called. I did think the stalemate call was way too fast. Acting would have helped.
Go away! That grab stopped a national title winning takedown. GTFO unless you can be objective...and by that, I mean call it exactly like it is. If it were Nolf, there would be an explosion in your fanbase.
Stalemate, in OT and then that.
"Objective". That's ironic considering I was cheering for Fix. Anyway, hopefully Fix gets on his offense better in the first 3 periods so that these types of controversial calls aren't a factor next time around.
"Objective". That's ironic considering I was cheering for Fix. Anyway, hopefully Fix gets on his offense better in the first 3 periods so that these types of controversial calls aren't a factor next time around.
No, "irony" is cheering for someone and not being able to see the truth when the person you're cheering for is encumbered by the opposite of the facts.
Of course we all here wish he scored 73 takedowns and this wasn't the discussion. But in reality, he scored one and officiating gave his title to another guy.