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Republican National Convention - Milwaukee, WI

Very accurate observation.

And, reminds of this quote from Casino...

If you didn't know you're being scammed, you're too phuckin dumb to keep this job. If you did know, you were in on it. Either way, you're out!

(apologies in advance for any perceived credit to that lil whiny beetch, Robert DeZero. Of course, lil Robbie did't write the script, just spoke his given words like a good little dancing monkey actor)
 
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Also ...

The leftist media can't help themselves.
 
Listened to Ben Shapiro this afternoon… he said this pick indicates trump is supremely confident in winning. Vance doesn’t really expand the base at all but it provides a loyal supporter and a future star in the party since he’s only 39. Gives a good boost in Ohio as well.

Doesn’t do anything for moderates but I’m not sure anyone’s vote is swung by a VP pick anyway.. even with the ages of the candidates
 
People can change their minds. I was going to vote for Johnson the independent in 2016 but I've voted for Trump in the last 2 elections and will for a 3rd time.

#Trump/Vance2024
Oh I’m not criticizing it or think it’s a bad thing. I think the smartest, most thoughtful people do change their minds over time.
 
Looks like everybody is sweating like hell in that arena. Milwaukee probably screwed up the AC.
 
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I think Trump will have a cakewalk to the White House, and a very rocky road once he gets there.
I still think Trump is going to lose in November. The question is how close will it be at the end of the day. I think with President Biden as the nominee, the election will be closer than it has to be.

We still have a long way to go in this campaign. It is only July. As President Biden has noted, the real fall campaign hasn't even begun.
 
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CNN now saying it’s JD Vance
Not the best pick Trump could have made politically. With that said, I'm not surprised at all that Trump made this pick.

Vance will do what Pence wouldn't do on January 6. Vance owes his very short political career to Trump and they both know it. Vance is also further right on some issues than Trump is, which will make the Republican base happy. It won't help with moderates and independents though.

Vance is also very inexperienced and I don't see how anyone with a straight face can claim this guy is prepared to be Vice President, much less President. And after Saturday, we are reminded of how important the Vice President office is.

Not to mention that the Vance of 2016 was actually honest about who Trump is. Vance could back then admit the danger that Trump represents and that Trump has committed sexual assault for example. Of course, that all changed when Vance sold out.

This isn't a pick that scares Democrats at all politically speaking heading into the fall. It's a weak pick and a dangerous pick if Trump somehow manages to get elected in November though.
 
It is going to be very interesting to see what Trump says and the tone he sets in his convention speech. If he strikes a more calming uniting tone, the question will then be how long he sticks to such a message.

Selecting Vance though doesn't seem to indicate any desire on the part of Trump's campaign to "calm the rhetoric" since Vance's comments right after the assassination attempt were disgusting and uncalled for.
 
It is going to be very interesting to see what Trump says and the tone he sets in his convention speech. If he strikes a more calming uniting tone, the question will then be how long he sticks to such a message.

Selecting Vance though doesn't seem to indicate any desire on the part of Trump's campaign to "calm the rhetoric" since Vance's comments right after the assassination attempt were disgusting and uncalled for.
Telling the truth is disgusting behavior. Yea I can see that from a leftist.
 
Telling the truth is disgusting behavior. Yea I can see that from a leftist.
Vance didn't tell the truth. He tried to score political points with his own political base at a very sensitive time in our nation's history.

A President and a Vice President's job during a national emergency or tragedy is to calm emotions, to calm the political rhetoric, to bring us together for as long as possible. Their job isn't to incite more anger and raw emotions that would only lead to chaos. That is what Vance was doing and it shows why he isn't prepared to be Vice President.
 
Here we go, "Vance is actually worse than Trump" so predictable
On some issues, Vance is worse (i.e further right) than Trump

But the point that Jones is making in that clip is that Vance is an ideaolgoue in a way that Trump isn't. Which I would tend to agree with, although I would say that Trump has more recently become more like Vance.

Jones is absolutely right though about how this pick is horrible news for Ukraine, NATO, and our European allies. This is a great pick for Putin. I wonder if Trump got Putin's advice first?🤣🤣
 
Saw part of his speech.

You agree with his rhetoric about miracles and God's intervention to save Trump on Saturday? If so, what would you tell the family of the man who died about why God didn't intervene save their loved one?
Admittedly, I missed that part.

I think it was absolutely a miracle he survived.. given it was MM away from a JFK situation on live TV. I think it comes down to anyone’s personal beliefs… luck, miracle, God, etc. I’m absolutely devastated on the guy that lost his life… saving his wife and daughter while losing his life. It’s tragic and I certainly can’t explain the reasoning.. it’s impossible to justify or explain.. but I do think Trump is incredibly lucky to be alive… especially with no real injuries that we know of.
 
I think it was absolutely a miracle he survived..
How are you using the term miracle? Are you using it in a general sense to indicate that Trump was very lucky on Saturday or are you using it in a theological sense to indicate that God intervened purposefully to save Trump (as Scott was doing)?

If it is the former, I would agree with you. Trump was very lucky. However, if it is the latter, I strong disagree and I believe such a viewpoint is dangerous, theologically inaccurate, and heartless as it concerns the man who did die.

I'm sure you hear the term "Christian nationalism" being discussed. The first few minutes of Scott's speech was Christian nationalism. He literally invoked Trump beside Jesus and called Trump an "American Lion" (Jesus is the Lion of Judah). How does such rhetoric not give you pause and concern?

That was an absolute disgusting opening by Senator Scott. He should be ashamed of himself.
 
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Apparently Speaker of the House Mike Johnson doesn't know how to give a speech without a teleprompter.

Hey Republicans, I thought that only applied to President Biden??

🤣🤣
 
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Apparently also, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin just stated that the speech he gave at the Convention was not the speech he meant to give. The teleprompter loaded the wrong speech and he had to give the wrong speech.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Great start to the Convention right-wingers!
 
How are you using the term miracle? Are you using it in a general sense to indicate that Trump was very lucky on Saturday or are you using it in a theological sense to indicate that God intervened purposefully to save Trump (as Scott was doing)?

If it is the former, I would agree with you. Trump was very lucky. However, if it is the latter, I strong disagree and I believe such a viewpoint is dangerous, theologically inaccurate, and heartless as it concerns the man who did die.

I'm sure you hear the term "Christian nationalism" being discussed. The first few minutes of Scott's speech was Christian nationalism. He literally invoked Trump beside Jesus and called Trump an "American Lion" (Jesus is the Lion of Judah). How does such rhetoric not give you pause and concern?

That was an absolute disgusting opening by Senator Scott. He should be ashamed of himself.
My personal belief is that God has a unique plan for everyone’s life. Trump along with hundreds of people that day in Butler, PA were looked after on that bleak, tragic day. I’m not sure why 2 others were hurt.. and one was killed. I can’t fathom but I trust in God’s perfect plan.

I’ll be honest and let you know I have no idea what Christian Nationalism is, but I think standing on beliefs isn’t dangerous or disgusting. I think pushing beliefs on others is and can be very dangerous but just talking about your own personal beliefs is not.

Just my… we will say.. 2 Cents 😄
 
My personal belief is that God has a unique plan for everyone’s life. Trump along with hundreds of people that day in Butler, PA were looked after on that bleak, tragic day. I’m not sure why 2 others were hurt.. and one was killed. I can’t fathom but I trust in God’s perfect plan.
I believe too that God has a plan and that He has a plan for each person. But I also believe God gives each of us free will and that God interacts with us (and His creation) as we use that free will. I also believe God's presence was at that rally on Saturday as His presence is everywhere. That doesn't mean God was endorsing (so to speak) anything that was going on at that rally though

What I don't believe is that God miraculous intervened to save Trump in particular way while refusing to intervene to save the life of an innocent bystander. Such a belief is based on a faulty theological understanding of God. It is dangerous. And it is heartless to that family now grieving their loved one who died.

I’ll be honest and let you know I have no idea what Christian Nationalism is
Well then I seriously suggest you do some research and find out what it is. And quickly. Because Trump empowers Christian nationalists and many within his circle of advisors and financial backers are Christian nationalists. The beginning of Senator Scott's speech is an example of Christian nationalist rhetoric.

A good place to start would be to watch the documentary "Bad Faith." It isn't that long and you can find it on many of the streaming services. There are numerous books and web sources too that you can research to find out about Christian nationalism.

btw, I hate the term "Christian nationalism." This ideology isn't Christian. Far from it. But that is the name the ideology has been given, unfortunately.

but I think standing on beliefs isn’t dangerous or disgusting. I think pushing beliefs on others is and can be very dangerous but just talking about your own personal beliefs is not.
I would disagree with this. I think a neo-fascist standing on his/her beliefs is very dangerous. I think a Christian nationalist standing on his/her beliefs is very dangerous. Those persons have every right to express their beliefs, but others have every right to challenge them and to put forth alternative beliefs.
 
I believe too that God has a plan and that He has a plan for each person. But I also believe God gives each of us free will and that God interacts with us (and His creation) as we use that free will. I also believe God's presence was at that rally on Saturday as His presence is everywhere. That doesn't mean God was endorsing (so to speak) anything that was going on at that rally though

What I don't believe is that God miraculous intervened to save Trump in particular way while refusing to intervene to save the life of an innocent bystander. Such a belief is based on a faulty theological understanding of God. It is dangerous. And it is heartless to that family now grieving their loved one who died.


Well then I seriously suggest you do some research and find out what it is. And quickly. Because Trump empowers Christian nationalists and many within his circle of advisors and financial backers are Christian nationalists. The beginning of Senator Scott's speech is an example of Christian nationalist rhetoric.

A good place to start would be to watch the documentary "Bad Faith." It isn't that long and you can find it on many of the streaming services. There are numerous books and web sources too that you can research to find out about Christian nationalism.

btw, I hate the term "Christian nationalism." This ideology isn't Christian. Far from it. But that is the name the ideology has been given, unfortunately.


I would disagree with this. I think a neo-fascist standing on his/her beliefs is very dangerous. I think a Christian nationalist standing on his/her beliefs is very dangerous. Those persons have every right to express their beliefs, but others have every right to challenge them and to put forth alternative beliefs.
Man your tds is overwhelming. Take a breath you have to be hyper ventilating.
 
Saw part of his speech.

You agree with his rhetoric about miracles and God's intervention to save Trump on Saturday? If so, what would you tell the family of the man who died about why God didn't intervene save their loved one?

We don't decide when its our time or not our time to go. Unless you go by suicide but even then is it you that decided that or some circumstance that caused it beyond your control?
 
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