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John Wayne and Politics

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I was watching the movie The Cowboys last night and read up on him on IMDB. I saw that he was quite the conservative and came under intense scrutiny for an article that was in Playboy that featured his political beliefs. His remarks regarding the Vietnam War, the Civil Rights Movement, and the gay community (he hated the movie Midnight Cowboy, because of its homosexual slant) and the condemnation he faced reminded me of the condemnation conservatives are facing today if they speak poorly of BLM or favorably of MAGA..

Here's a passage from the story:

"In the late Twenties, when I was a sophomore at USC, I was a socialist myself—but not when I left. The average college kid idealistically wishes everybody could have ice cream and cake for every meal. But as he gets older and gives more thought to his and his fellow man's responsibilities, he finds that it can't work out that way—that some people just won't carry their load ... I believe in welfare—a welfare work program. I don't think a fella should be able to sit on his backside and receive welfare. I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living. I'd like to know why they make excuses for cowards who spit in the faces of the police and then run behind the judicial sob sisters. I can't understand these people who carry placards to save the life of some criminal, yet have no thought for the innocent victim." - John Wayne

Gotta love The Duke. Well, you don't have to, but I do. I've always patterned my coaching after his character Wil Anderson. My daughters might say my parenting is a lot like it, too, but it doesn't play as well with girls.
 
I was watching the movie The Cowboys last night and read up on him on IMDB. I saw that he was quite the conservative and came under intense scrutiny for an article that was in Playboy that featured his political beliefs. His remarks regarding the Vietnam War, the Civil Rights Movement, and the gay community (he hated the movie Midnight Cowboy, because of its homosexual slant) and the condemnation he faced reminded me of the condemnation conservatives are facing today if they speak poorly of BLM or favorably of MAGA..

Here's a passage from the story:

"In the late Twenties, when I was a sophomore at USC, I was a socialist myself—but not when I left. The average college kid idealistically wishes everybody could have ice cream and cake for every meal. But as he gets older and gives more thought to his and his fellow man's responsibilities, he finds that it can't work out that way—that some people just won't carry their load ... I believe in welfare—a welfare work program. I don't think a fella should be able to sit on his backside and receive welfare. I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living. I'd like to know why they make excuses for cowards who spit in the faces of the police and then run behind the judicial sob sisters. I can't understand these people who carry placards to save the life of some criminal, yet have no thought for the innocent victim." - John Wayne

Gotta love The Duke. Well, you don't have to, but I do. I've always patterned my coaching after his character Wil Anderson. My daughters might say my parenting is a lot like it, too, but it doesn't play as well with girls.
Is that the same interview where he described himself as a white supremacist?
 
With 1 out of every 2 black pregnancies ending in abortion and a 66% birth out of wedlock rate in the black community I would say the Duke was right.

Haven’t you learned facts are irrelevant in political discourse these days?
 
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Your thoughts on the John Wayne quote above?

Haven’t read the interview but clearly in this polarized extremist climate facts and data are carelessly discarded in favor of emotion, bias, agenda, and hatred.

Interview was also 50 years ago correct?
 
Haven’t read the interview but clearly in this polarized extremist climate facts and data are carelessly discarded in favor of emotion, bias, agenda, and hatred.

Interview was also 50 years ago correct?
Which bits then are relevant today and which are not? Maybe you can parse it out for us...
 
Which bits then are relevant today and which are not? Maybe you can parse it out for us...

The quote speaks for itself - was he a racist in our bipolar cancel culture society today? Does his life reflect that in terms of the people he worked with, hired, befriended, and spent time with? Are all 800,000 police officers in our nation racist? Many think so today and have treated our law enforcement accordingly. So sure, let's judge a man for one quote rather than his life he lived.

What's relevant today isn't what was said by a man 50 years ago dying of cancer, but rather the ignorance, hatred, and hypocrisy and lack of genuine understanding and willingness to grow together rather than further apart in our nation right here, right now.
 
The quote speaks for itself - was he a racist in our bipolar cancel culture society today? Does his life reflect that in terms of the people he worked with, hired, befriended, and spent time with? Are all 800,000 police officers in our nation racist? Many think so today and have treated our law enforcement accordingly. So sure, let's judge a man for one quote rather than his life he lived.

What's relevant today isn't what was said by a man 50 years ago dying of cancer, but rather the ignorance, hatred, and hypocrisy and lack of genuine understanding and willingness to grow together rather than further apart in our nation right here, right now.
Dayum. Delivered.
 
I was watching the movie The Cowboys last night and read up on him on IMDB. I saw that he was quite the conservative and came under intense scrutiny for an article that was in Playboy that featured his political beliefs. His remarks regarding the Vietnam War, the Civil Rights Movement, and the gay community (he hated the movie Midnight Cowboy, because of its homosexual slant) and the condemnation he faced reminded me of the condemnation conservatives are facing today if they speak poorly of BLM or favorably of MAGA..

Here's a passage from the story:

"In the late Twenties, when I was a sophomore at USC, I was a socialist myself—but not when I left. The average college kid idealistically wishes everybody could have ice cream and cake for every meal. But as he gets older and gives more thought to his and his fellow man's responsibilities, he finds that it can't work out that way—that some people just won't carry their load ... I believe in welfare—a welfare work program. I don't think a fella should be able to sit on his backside and receive welfare. I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living. I'd like to know why they make excuses for cowards who spit in the faces of the police and then run behind the judicial sob sisters. I can't understand these people who carry placards to save the life of some criminal, yet have no thought for the innocent victim." - John Wayne

Gotta love The Duke. Well, you don't have to, but I do. I've always patterned my coaching after his character Wil Anderson. My daughters might say my parenting is a lot like it, too, but it doesn't play as well with girls.
So you're enamored with one of his film characters AND his politics?
 
“I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility,”

Unfortunately the overly emotional crowd will go full rheeeeeee without taking the effort to consider the wisdom of these words.
It's obvious to anyone with functioning brain cells, two major problems in the black community are lack of education and the lack of personal responsibility. Of course both of these are considered to be examples of white privilege now days. Really doesn't seem that hard to me but I was taught by my parents/grand parents that an education was important and the only person responsible for my plight in life was myself. Maybe the black community can do the same with their kids instead of what is obviously not working now.
 
Wait until Frank Eaton is deemed racist and some will want our mascot gone.

The demand for racism exceeds the supply.
 
Unfortunately the overly emotional crowd will go full rheeeeeee without taking the effort to consider the wisdom of these words.
It's obvious to anyone with functioning brain cells, two major problems in the black community are lack of education and the lack of personal responsibility. Of course both of these are considered to be examples of white privilege now days. Really doesn't seem that hard to me but I was taught by my parents/grand parents that an education was important and the only person responsible for my plight in life was myself. Maybe the black community can do the same with their kids instead of what is obviously not working now.
White supremacy as "wisdom." Goodness.
 
White supremacy as "wisdom." Goodness.

Like I said, the overly emotional crowd would not consider the wisdom of the words. Thanks for proving my point.
People can not get past a couple of words, which at that point in history were not considered to be overly inflammatory, to understand the point that was being made.
Just to make the point clear, the black community, and for that matter everyone else, needs to embrace working to get a proper education and must take responsibility for their own actions. Even the most leftist of leftist can not argue with those two points.
 
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