You are conflating long term strategy with short term tactics.How well has fear of reprisal been working as a defense strategy? Not so good. Maybe its time for a new strategy.
You are conflating long term strategy with short term tactics.How well has fear of reprisal been working as a defense strategy? Not so good. Maybe its time for a new strategy.
How well has fear of reprisal been working as a defense strategy? Not so good. Maybe its time for a new strategy.
Exactly, china does not map Israel, https://www.businessinsider.com/isr...-from-maps-on-chinese-internet-report-2023-10Fear of reprisal is the only reason Israel is on any map today.
Wow you just can't stop conflating Hamas with Palestinians and Muslims in general.Is it? You have any evidence to the contrary? I've plenty that support my opinion.
From one of your trusted left wing sites
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Understanding Hamas’s Genocidal Ideology
A close read of Hamas’s founding documents clearly shows its intentions.www.theatlantic.com
Lol, so less than 25% of Palestinians would vote for Hamas, even when the only alternative offered is the corrupt Palestinian Authority.Majority of the Palestinians would vote to keep Hamas in power.
agree to disagreeFear of reprisal is the only reason Israel is on any map today.
You are twisting yourself in knots to defend the killing of thousands of women and children.Looks to me like the strategy has changed. Israel is not sitting back and taking it like many of you on the left demand and you are losing your mind over it by supporting evil. It's wasn't the Israelis that were gleefully beheading babies, it was the Palestinians.
Wow you just can't stop conflating Hamas with Palestinians and Muslims in general.
Really, is that how Israel stopped the 10/7 raid, by bombing children in Gaza?Hamas terrorists continue to bomb, pillage and rape Israelis.
I'll get right on that.Have Hamas stop hiding behind them.
And I'll get on to having Israel stop the assault with just as much fervor as you exert.I'll get right on that.
You are twisting yourself in knots to defend the killing of thousands of women and children.
Yes please call your congress critter and demand they condition all aid to Israel on a ceasefire.And I'll get on to having Israel stop the assault with just as much fervor as you exert.
Best comment in the entire thread!Is the question here on would we rather let Dan die and save Tinker or both just die? I am sure if Tinker is taken out and Dans house blows up my concern won’t be Dan or Tinker. Probably be taking advantage of the chaos and sneak in the zoo.
I'll do that just as soon as you contact Hamas and petition them to remove their military infrastructure from civilian locations.Yes please call your congress critter and demand they condition all aid to Israel on a ceasefire.
Is the question here on would we rather let Dan die and save Tinker or both just die? I am sure if Tinker is taken out and Dans house blows up my concern won’t be Dan or Tinker. Probably be taking advantage of the chaos and sneak in the zoo.
Done. You'll never believe this, but Hamas doesn't appear to care about my opinion on their conduct.I'll do that just as soon as you contact Hamas and petition them to removing their military infrastructure from civilian locations.
Bwhahaha.
Again. Bwhahahaha.![]()
Just waiting for you to hold up your end of the bargain.
Like I said... I will just as soon as you do. That petition falls woefully short. What a joke.Not going to huh?
I just did. Why won't you?Like I said... I will just as soon as you do. That petition falls woefully short. What a joke.
I'll look up the contact info on my own just as soon as you look up the contact info for Hamas and contact them on your own. Good luck with that. Hollow acts like signing that dumb petition doesn't count.I just did. Why won't you?
If you have a good phone number or physical or email address for Hamas please let me know.
I can track down the contact info for your congress critter if you need help.
Maybe you can help Cenk out with Bashar Al-Assad's contact info.
Hmm its almost like the only influence any American has on the situation is through Israel.I'll look up the contact info on my own just as soon as you look up the contact info for Hamas and contact them on your own. Good luck with that. Hollow acts like signing that dumb petition doesn't count.
Exactly! Bitching about the conduct of Hamas is just virtue signaling and has zero effect.Symbolism over substance. Got it.
Thanks for admitting that your proposal was disingenuous.Exactly! Bitching about the conduct of Hamas is just virtue signaling and has zero effect.
It was your proposal bub, and a dumb one at that.Thanks for admitting that your proposal was disingenuous.
I'll do that just as soon as you contact Hamas and petition them to remove their military infrastructure from civilian locations.
You keep repeating yourself, Dan. I'm clear on what "you've tried to say."What I have said, or at least tried to say, is Israel is the big gorilla in the equation, it has all the leverage (all of it, not most of it), and if the Israeli government would change its tactic in how it treats the people in Gaza over time things might begin to change.
I already made that point.yeah, and it only takes one to stop the tango.
You are twisting yourself in knots to defend the killing of thousands of women and children.
Yes, I do repeat myself a lot. It seems to be necessary when people twist the meaning of what I say into something I didn't say.You keep repeating yourself, Dan. I'm clear on what "you've tried to say."
"Defending itself" is a perculiar way of putting it. Exacting revenge seems more approriate. What took place on October 7th was pure evil, no doubt about it. What is taking place in Gaza as we speak is also pure evil.I have no issue with Israel defending itself against evil and make no mistake what took place on October 7th was pure evil.
Hamas has proven itself as a national security threat to Israel. Oh and I agree Hamas is pure evil and as such should be removed."Defending itself" is a perculiar way of putting it. Exacting revenge seems more approriate. What took place on October 7th was pure evil, no doubt about it. What is taking place in Gaza as we speak is also pure evil.
If some Hamas fighters managed to slip away and are hiding out in Cairo, how many Egyptian children is it okay to bomb?Hamas has proven itself as a national security threat to Israel. Oh and I agree Hamas is pure evil and as such should be removed.