The leaks of the Trump's phone calls.....
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I was supposed to be careful thinking you weren't an attorney. You're still not one. What else should we be careful about thinking?Stop following me around Chester and trying too hard lol.
probably so
i do respect your honesty and self reflection
shame it's not standard issue
I've not been dishonest with you once about who I am (you've never asked). You have just been eager to make assumptions and by doing so, failed to keep it "real."
Perhaps if you would just ask me what I do and who I am, instead of making silly assumptions, you would be able to keep it real.
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You're reaching farther than I was. There is a huge difference in subpoenaing an email record from a newspaper to learn who sent it and throwing a reporter in jail.
Refusal to comply with a subpoena is subject to criminal sanction. It is an assertion of government authority used to compel acts.
When you start "gathering evidence" about sources from the press, you have to consider the 1st Amendment implications. I have no problem with going after leakers that are violating the law. I do have a problem with going after the press in any way for exposing things the authorities would like to keep secret.
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If I wasn't going to be charged with anything, I don't see a basis for feeling threatened or bullied.
Okay.
What do you do and who are you? Are you, in fact, an attorney or not....practicing or not. Do you have a J.D. Degree?
Have you ever posted here (as in the entire OSU rivals board...not just this one) under any other screen name?
I think he was both a patriot and a criminal. Patriotism and love for your country doesn't always mean blind adherence to the law. It also doesn't mean immunity from prosecution when you decide to violate the law.
That is a sincere and serious answer...not being flippant at all.
agree but
1 like obamacare and the scotus greater good theory where does it stop?
2 the onus and spectacle shifts to the press
YES! It seems that our government as a whole seems to have forgotten that what they do is subject to public inspection, for the most part.
Currently, I work as a paid intern for a United States District Court Judge. No, I am not an attorney yet. In a week and a half, I will be starting my third year of law school. Previously, I worked in the ministry . I also have two post-graduate degrees in theology (a MDiv and a ThM).
I am also married with four children.
Nope. I am not the toon character medic keeps referencing.
I discovered this board after visiting the site for the first time, I believe, back in December sometime. I am not even an Oklahoma State fan (although I do follow college athletics) nor do I live in Oklahoma.
I just enjoy discussing politics and this appears to be a lively and entertaining board in that regard.
Don't you think that Trump's "Fake News" crusade is directed at undermining the press' ability to inspect/reveal what the government is actually doing?
Do you believe Snowden did what he did for patriotic reasons or do you believe he was working with another government?
You've implied more than once that you were an attorney. You were specifically asked by JD in a previous thread if you were an attorney and didn't bother to answer.
I always keep it real. In fact, I've never implied I'm something I'm not. At least one poster here knows who I am in real life. My handle gives a really good idea of what I do for a living and I've made it public here where exactly I work.
I really don't care if you reveal who you are or not. But don't be shocked when someone calls you out for implying you possess the same knowledge and expertise as a long time career attorney when it's obvious to the casual observer that you don't.
In some ways, yes. But the media has done their own credibility no favors. Just as I expect the media to have free reign on our government, I also expect factual reporting. When the reporting is bullshit, I have no problem with them being called on it by Trump or anyone.
Thank you for your answers.
As you say you have no connection to OSU or even live in Oklahoma, I am curious as to what District Court you intern in... or at least which circuit...wouldn't presume to ask for a disclosure of which judge.
As for toon, you have some posting quirks and a style that are nearly verbatim of him and his posts. That and some other stuff leads to the suspicion that you are a sock account, I'm sure.
No, what I did was post that you shouldn't be making assumptions about me when you haven't even bother to ask me what I do.
Look, I understand you are a big cheerleader for JD, but I have yet to see any post by JD on this board that reflects knowledge that many people couldn't have...including non-attorneys. That is not a slight towards JD btw...he appears to be an intelligent person.
in my best brian williams voice
you don't think the press brought that on themselves?
He's not that big a cheerleader for me. We have gone at it hammer and tong on opposite sides more than once.
I am not comfortable sharing that information on a public message board, as I am sure you know why. I express my political views on this board, and I in no way want my views or comments on this board to somehow reflect back on the judge I work for.
Suffice to say, I am not from Oklahoma.
Hence the reasons one shouldn't assume (which I too can be guilty of btw).
Sorry, but I'm gonging this bullshit.
JD doesn't need a cheerleader. He has had no issue making you look like the amateur that you just posted that you are. You should be smart enough to discern pointing out the obvious from "cheerleading."
Keeping it real. Again.
Fair enough....
Not even comfortable with which circuit?
Or region of the country generally?
Over plenty of shit over the years too, spanning more than one forum. I like you, but I don't love you.
You'd like me to quit pointing out the obvious, but I won't when it's obviously obvious. Too bad rookie.
I don't see it. Maybe I'm blind. But when you have a huge first amendment to use as a shield, it's hard to feel threatened!
Anyway, it's not often that we disagree. But here we are. I plan on having a spectacular afternoon and I wish you the same!
IMO, it is a Catch-22. You are right that the media is biased. You are right that they paint stories in directions based on their bias. Or they report certain stories and gloss over others, based on bias.
However, Trump has (basically) called out every news source other than FoxNews, and they have proven that they are biased as well (just in support of Trump). As a result, the media has lost a lot of ability to play the role to call out the government. If people don't want to believe what the media shares, they just shrug their shoulders and say "fake news".
Pretty soon, we will all just have to accept that we can't trust politicians and we can't trust the media. We will be left with only our own confirmation bias to allow us to decide what is really happening and whether or not it is good for us.
Somewhere in the south.
There is a social media and internet policy that I have to abide by. So again, I have to be careful.
IMO, we are already there....with the exception that we still have original source records and statement by those involved to enable us to make our own evaluations.
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