Second Yale accuser comes forward

[my_2cents]

So he's guilty? You said it, not me.

Again TPoke, this is all framed by this question I put forth:

If the accusers are telling the truth, should he be appointed to the Supreme Court?

I don't know if they are telling the truth and that is why I support a full investigation. It is why I support slowing down on this nomination (regardless of the political implications). However, I asked "if" they are telling the truth? And you see the responses and it is those responses I am taking issue with.

"If" they are telling the truth, they aren't to blame. They don't deserve it. Etc. That type of thinking is what is wrong with Trump's Republican Party.

 

[poke2001]

So, nobody finds it odd that her attorney is the same as the porn star’s attorney?

 

[TPOKE]

Again TPoke, this is all framed by this question I put forth:


I don't know if they are telling the truth and that is why I support a full investigation. It is why I support slowing down on this nomination (regardless of the political implications). However, I asked "if" they are telling the truth? And you see the responses and it is those responses I am taking issue with.

"If" they are telling the truth, they aren't to blame. They don't deserve it. Etc. That type of thinking is what is wrong with Trump's Republican Party.

Based on your responses you're hoping these women were sexually assaulted and won't accept it if Kavanaugh is cleared. Even by a he said/she said lack of evidence hearing.

 

[poke2001]

Based on your responses you're hoping these women were sexually assaulted and won't accept it if Kavanaugh is cleared. Even by a he said/she said lack of evidence hearing.

@my_2cents actually doesn’t give a shit about these 2 women...nobody on the left does. They are using them as pawns to derail Trump.

 

[my_2cents]

Based on your responses you're hoping these women were sexually assaulted and won't accept it if Kavanaugh is cleared. Even by a he said/she said lack of evidence hearing.

Nope, not true at all.

Before the second lady come forward, I was advocating for testimony from the principals. Now that we have a second accusation, it is time for a full investigation. Anyone who desires to know the truth about all of this should also support a full investigation. We are talking about a life time appointment to the Supreme Court.

I realize you want to project upon me what you believe all Democrats are doing. It just isn't true though TPoke. I use to be a Republican.

Go back and read the responses to my question of "if" these ladies are telling the truth. Look how the Trump supporters tried to blame the women.

The vile that is Trumpism is destroying the GOP. It is no longer the party of Lincoln.

 

[gopokes2003]

I'm not sorry; you don't get to sit on an accusation for 35 years. Not and expect to be credible or taken seriously. You just don't.

How the hell do you know what a woman who has been sexually assaulted does? We finally live in a time when women who make such claims are taken seriously. I can fully understand why they are just now coming forward.

It is time to slow down. This man is up for a life time appointment to the Supreme Court. Unelected. You really want to drain the swamp? Then let's drain the swamp.

Give me a break. This is just a delay tactic. None of these claims are credible, and every "witness" has so far denied the stories of the "victims" that involved said witnesses. This is all about abortion. There's a reason none of these claims were addressed 2 months ago. Now we know why Ford kept asking for extensions. So this other woman could take 6 days to piece together her drunken "memories". Only a liberal progressive moron would believe any of this bs.

 

[my_2cents]

@my_2cents actually doesn’t give a shit about these 2 women...nobody on the left does. They are using them as pawns to derail Trump.

What an absolute joke.

It is really sad that you believe this nonsense poke.

 

[long-duc-dong]

Nope, not true at all.

Before the second lady come forward, I was advocating for testimony from the principals. Now that we have a second accusation, it is time for a full investigation. Anyone who desires to know the truth about all of this should also support a full investigation. We are talking about a life time appointment to the Supreme Court.

I realize you want to project upon me what you believe all Democrats are doing. It just isn't true though TPoke. I use to be a Republican.

Go back and read the responses to my question of "if" these ladies are telling the truth. Look how the Trump supporters tried to blame the women.

The vile that is Trumpism is destroying the GOP. It is no longer the party of Lincoln.

You can’t be serious with this Trumpism is destroying the GOP bullshit?

 

[gopokes2003]

@my_2cents actually doesn’t give a shit about these 2 women...nobody on the left does. They are using them as pawns to derail Trump.

What an absolute joke.

It is really sad that you believe this nonsense poke.

No it's not sad. It's the damn truth. The party of abortion is totally unhinged.

 

[my_2cents]

Give me a break. This is just a delay tactic. None of these claims are credible, and every "witness" has so far denied the stories of the "victims" that involved said witnesses. This is all about abortion. There's a reason none of these claims were addressed 2 months ago. Now we know why Ford kept asking for extensions. So this other woman could take 6 days to piece together her drunken "memories". Only a liberal progressive moron would believe any of this bs.

What if they are true though gopokes2003? I get that you don't want to "believe"they are true for political reasons, but again, what if they are true?

Is there anything in you that will allow you to believe that these accusations could be true and that it matters.

 

[TPOKE]

You can’t be serious with this Trumpism is destroying the GOP bullshit?

So what makes the democrats so great that you switched? You stated earlier that people were leaving the Republican Party, and I know many people who have left the democrats because they weren't the party they used to be.

 

[my_2cents]

You can’t be serious with this Trumpism is destroying the GOP bullshit?

Sure I am. Look how many Republicans are leaving the party. Look at how many Republicans are resigning instead of running for reelection. A Democrat won in Alabama for goodness sakes. Again, wake up!

 

[gopokes2003]

Give me a break. This is just a delay tactic. None of these claims are credible, and every "witness" has so far denied the stories of the "victims" that involved said witnesses. This is all about abortion. There's a reason none of these claims were addressed 2 months ago. Now we know why Ford kept asking for extensions. So this other woman could take 6 days to piece together her drunken "memories". Only a liberal progressive moron would believe any of this bs.

What is they are true though gopokes2003? I get that you don't want to "believe"they are true for political reasons, but again, what if they are true?

Is there anything in you that will allow you to believe that these accusations could be true and that it matters.

No, the timing is everything. If this was anything other than a delay tactic Feinstein would have released the letter as soon as she got it. I don't believe these claims and until someone corroborates the claims, who was at these parties, I won't believe them. This is all a political game by the Democrats. Collins and Flake need to fall into line and he needs to be confirmed. No more games.

 

[poke2001]

What an absolute joke.

It is really sad that you believe this nonsense poke.

It’s the truth and you know it. You are excited that someone could derail Trump. You don’t care why or how as long as it happens.

Liberalism is a mental disorder. You are disgusting filth to use women in this way.

 

[gopokes2003]

You can’t be serious with this Trumpism is destroying the GOP bullshit?

Sure I am. Look how many Republicans are leaving the party. Look at how many Republicans are resigning instead of running for reelection. A Democrat won in Alabama for goodness sakes. Again, wake up!

A Democrat only won because of a very flawed candidate. That was not a referendum on Trump or the Republican party.

 

[long-duc-dong]

Sure I am. Look how many Republicans are leaving the party. Look at how many Republicans are resigning instead of running for reelection. A Democrat won in Alabama for goodness sakes. Again, wake up!

Come on man the “party of Lincoln” was destroyed way before this dipshit got into office. You’re not that dumb.

 

[my_2cents]

So what makes the democrats so great that you switched?

Because I refuse to be aligned with what Trump stands for.

I was always a moderate Republican, I will admit that. A Rockfeller Republican you could say. I admired men like Eisenhower and yet I also liked FDR. I supported McCain and Romney.

Trump is something different though. He plays on what is worst in all of us. Our fear, our biases, and our hatred. He brings out the worst in us.

Look again at this thread TPoke. Some of his most strongest supporters want to blame women for being sexually assaulted. Step back a second, and really think about that.

 

[Headhunter]

Why are these accusers coming out after the hearings? There is no way the slimy porn lawyer and all the liberal activist lawyers that just happen to also be the accusers lawyers didn't know these women before hand.

It's all a last minute ambush that was all orchestrated long before the confirmation hearings.

Most obvious load of political dirty tricks I can remember. I'm surprised Democrats can keep a straight face when they feign their outrage.

 

[Rdcldad]

A Democrat only won because of a very flawed candidate. That was not a referendum on Trump or the Republican party.

he knew this before he moved the goalposts

 

[my_2cents]

It’s the truth and you know it. You are excited that someone could derail Trump. You don’t care why or how as long as it happens.

Liberalism is a mental disorder. You are disgusting filth to use women in this way.

Again, if these women are telling the truth, does that mean anything to you? Or will you always think they are lying and this is some grand conspiracy by the Democrats?

 

[TPOKE]

Because I refuse to be aligned with what Trump stands for.

I was always a moderate Republican, I will admit that. A Rockfeller Republican you could say. I admired men like Eisenhower and yet I also liked FDR. I supported McCain and Romney.

Trump is something different though. He plays on what is worst in all of us. Our fear, our biases, and our hatred. He brings out the worst in us.

Look again at this thread TPoke. Some of his most strongest supporters want to blame women for being sexually assaulted. Step back a second, and really think about that.

First of all, you must be really old, FDR and so forth.

Second of all, no one is saying women want to be sexually assaulted. There's no proof to this point that anyone has. If there is unmitigated proof in the future? Send him packing. One stipulation is that the decision be made before the mid terms.

 

[poke2001]

Because I refuse to be aligned with what Trump stands for.

I was always a moderate Republican, I will admit that. A Rockfeller Republican you could say. I admired men like Eisenhower and yet I also liked FDR. I supported McCain and Romney.

Trump is something different though. He plays on what is worst in all of us. Our fear, our biases, and our hatred. He brings out the worst in us.

Look again at this thread TPoke. Some of his most strongest supporters want to blame women for being sexually assaulted. Step back a second, and really think about that.

So, once again, you are saying he is guilty. You are disgusting.

 

[my_2cents]

Why are these accusers coming out after the hearings?

They are actually coming out during the confirmation process. This is why we have a confirmation process.

It's all a last minute ambush that was all orchestrated long before the confirmation hearings.

Most obvious load of political dirty tricks I can remember. I'm surprised Democrats can keep a straight face when they feign their outrage.

Same thing was said back in 1991.

But yet, we are now draining the swamp, huh?

 

[Rdcldad]

Trump is something different though. He plays on what is worst in all of us. Our fear, our biases, and our hatred. He brings out the worst in us.

trump is the only thing that saved this country from decades of socialism and geopolitical disfunction

it’s your fear your bias

you people are everything you despise
and too stupid to see it

 

[poke2001]

Again, if these women are telling the truth, does that mean anything to you? Or will you always think they are lying and this is some grand conspiracy by the Democrats?

They aren’t telling the truth...or it is an extremely skewed version. This is a political hit...and is so fvcking obvious only TDS sufferers think it’s true...or disgusting liberals using women to further their agenda.

 

[my_2cents]

If there is unmitigated proof in the future. Send him packing.

What is unmitigated proof in your view? Honestly, what will it take to convince you or any other Trump supporter that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted women?

One stipulation is that the decision be made before the mid terms.

Why? Why all of sudden the rush? Did you think such a rush was needed with Garland?

btw, was there any such accusations made against Garland? Yet, you supported stopping his nomination purely for political reasons, didn't you?

Stipulation. lol

 

[my_2cents]

So, once again, you are saying he is guilty. You are disgusting.

I don't know. Let's have a full investigation. Bring the FBI into it too.

You agree?

 

[Headhunter]

So what makes the democrats so great that you switched?

Because I refuse to be aligned with what Trump stands for.

I was always a moderate Republican, I will admit that. A Rockfeller Republican you could say. I admired men like Eisenhower and yet I also liked FDR. I supported McCain and Romney.

Trump is something different though. He plays on what is worst in all of us. Our fear, our biases, and our hatred. He brings out the worst in us.

Look again at this thread TPoke. Some of his most strongest supporters want to blame women for being sexually assaulted. Step back a second, and really think about that.

Sorry I'm not buying what you are shoveling.

Obvious progressive who thinks posing as a reformed Republican gives your point of view more credibility. It doesn’t, it's just lame.

 

[my_2cents]

They aren’t telling the truth...or it is an extremely skewed version. This is a political hit...and is so fvcking obvious only TDS sufferers think it’s true...or disgusting liberals using women to further their agenda.

No it isn't obvious. That is what YOU want to believe because you are a Trump supporter. That is what is obvious.

Again, what will it take to convince you these women are telling the truth and that it matters?

 

[poke2001]

I don't know. Let's have a full investigation. Bring the FBI into it too.

You agree?

No.

 

[my_2cents]

Sorry I'm not buying what you are shoveling.

I don't care if you buy it or not. Look around, I'm not the only one.

You Trump supporters dismiss all of us who have left the Republican Party as not "real" Republicans or not "real" conservatives. George Will advocates voting for Democrats and he gets labeled a fake conservative. lol.

Like I said, wake up!

 

[poke2001]

No it isn't obvious. That is what YOU want to believe because you are a Trump supporter. That is what is obvious.

Again, what will it take to convince you these women are telling the truth and that it matters?

Evidence. Until then, he’s innocent and confirmation should continue.

 

[my_2cents]

No.

Exactly. You don't want to know the truth.

Thank you for being honest.

 

[poke2001]

I don't care if you buy it or not. Look around, I'm not the only one.

You Trump supporters dismiss all of us who have left the Republican Party as not "real" Republicans or not "real" conservatives. George Will advocates voting for Democrats and he gets labeled a fake conservative. lol.

Like I said, wake up!

You are so full of shit.

 

[my_2cents]

Evidence. Until then, he’s innocent and confirmation should continue.

How can you have evidence without a full investigation, which you refuse to support.

See how silly you sound?

 

[poke2001]

Exactly. You don't want to know the truth.

Thank you for being honest.

I know the truth. So do you.

 

[poke2001]

How can you have evidence without a full investigation, which you refuse to support.

See how silly you sound?

They can investigate all they want. He’s innocent until proven guilty. She should file charges in the town it happened and let the local authorities investigate. Senate should confirm.

 

[my_2cents]

I know the truth. So do you.

No you don't lol!

These women very well could be telling the truth, but you don't care. You don't want a full investigation. You are so invested in Trump's bs that you will do whatever he says to do.

Grow a pair and think for yourself for once.

 

[my_2cents]

They can investigate all they want.

You just said you don't want a full investigation!

I agree he is innocent until proven guilty, but I also believe we need a full investigation of this matter. If he is innocent, the investigation will show that.

So why do you oppose a full investigation?

 

[gopokes2003]

They aren’t telling the truth...or it is an extremely skewed version. This is a political hit...and is so fvcking obvious only TDS sufferers think it’s true...or disgusting liberals using women to further their agenda.

No it isn't obvious. That is what YOU want to believe because you are a Trump supporter. That is what is obvious.

Again, what will it take to convince you these women are telling the truth and that it matters?

How about actual evidence?