Question For The Most Loyal Of The Trump Faithful

[Ponca Dan]

Your white hot hatred for all things Democratic Party and leftist/progressive politics is well founded. Your adoration of Donald Trump and your understanding of what he stands for is duly noted. Your contempt and disdain for the Republican Party establishment is understandable.

The question is: come 2024 if DJT announces he will run again and it splits the party in two, with the establishment refusing to endorse him and the Trump wing refusing to endorse the establishment, will you vote for Trump even if you know that will assure someone like Kamala Harris victory?

 

[HighStickHarry]

I always vote for my favorite person in the primary and vote against liberalism in the general. I think you will find this answer repeated several times in this thread.

 

[Ponca Dan]

I always vote for my favorite person in the primary and vote against liberalism in the general. I think you will find this answer repeated several times in this thread.

So if it’s Nikki Haley you’ll vote for her? (I don’t blame you. I can’t think of anyone other than Hillary I would choose Kamala over.)

 

[windriverrange]

Personally don't foresee him running. If he did yep would vote for him. If it means the establishment R's languish in the wilderness for another 2 or 4 years so be it. Until you cleanse out the RINO's then the cycle we're in will never stop.

That people like the turtle, Cassady etc can rely so heavily on DJT for re-election then stab him in the back, is exactly what they are doing to the Patriots every single minute of every day. Plus watching the liberals roll over like submissive puppies and pee all over themselves will be priceless.

Saw this poem mentioned today....it's the perfect description of the libcoms and how DJT lives in their heads, forever!

Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

When I came home last night at three
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall
I couldn't see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don't you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don't slam the door... (slam!)

Last night I saw upon the stair
A little man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away...

 

[HighStickHarry]

So if it’s Nikki Haley you’ll vote for her? (I don’t blame you. I can’t think of anyone other than Hillary I would choose Kamala over.)

I will go to the polls and vote for whoever pretends to be anti leftist.

 

[osuintx]

Your white hot hatred for all things Democratic Party and leftist/progressive politics is well founded. Your adoration of Donald Trump and your understanding of what he stands for is duly noted. Your contempt and disdain for the Republican Party establishment is understandable.

The question is: come 2024 if DJT announces he will run again and it splits the party in two, with the establishment refusing to endorse him and the Trump wing refusing to endorse the establishment, will you vote for Trump even if you know that will assure someone like Kamala Harris victory?

I'm not going to NOT vote for DJT bc the republicans are a bunch of cheap, lying, no good, rotten, far flushing, snake licking, dirt eating, inbreed, overstuffed, ignorant, blood sucking, dog kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat assed, bug eyed, stiff legged, spotty lipped, worm headed, sack of monkey shit they are!!!! Halleluah!! Holy shit!! Where's the Tylenol??"

if they are too stupid to split the party for their self perseveration- they have zero idea how pissed 80 million people are- Unlike the GOO- we don't cower to the Dems and make deals that are losers- they split the party it's on them.

No way in Hell a Nikki Haley or Jeb Bush. If it's not Trump I would love me some Ron Desantis with Govna Noem as VP. If they split the party it's on them- but all that will do is cause 80 million to sit it out. Why?

BC There's not much of a choice- there was little difference between Obama and McCain.....Hussein and Pierre Delecto. Now Trump verses Billary? Trump verses Pedotus? There was a choice!

we have come too far to get close to getting the country back. GOP sat back and left DJT on an island for 4 years and LET Pedotus steal it from Trump- you think we are going back to McConnel, Cornyn, McCain, Romney establishment good ole boy POS party? No way in hell- go big or go home. Screw the establishment GOO

good Question tho- very good query Mary- well done

 

[osuintx]

Personally don't foresee him running. If he did yep would vote for him. If it means the establishment R's languish in the wilderness for another 2 or 4 years so be it. Until you cleanse out the RINO's then the cycle we're in will never stop.

That people like the turtle, Cassady etc can rely so heavily on DJT for re-election then stab him in the back, is exactly what they are doing to the Patriots every single minute of every day. Plus watching the liberals roll over like submissive puppies and pee all over themselves will be priceless.

Saw this poem mentioned today....it's the perfect description of the libcoms and how DJT lives in their heads, forever!

Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

When I came home last night at three
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall
I couldn't see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don't you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don't slam the door... (slam!)

Last night I saw upon the stair
A little man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away...

THIS! You nailed that like a split Hog!

 

[N. Pappagiorgio]

DJT got 75-80,000,000 votes a few months ago. If he ran he would not lose to a Nikki Haley Type RINO.

 

[Ponca Dan]

DJT got 75-80,000,000 votes a few months ago. If he ran he would not lose to a Nikki Haley Type RINO.

Hypothetically say he did, and Haley or some other establishment type got the nomination. The question is: would you sit out the election in protest, thus assuring Kamala Harris became President, or would you bite the bullet and vote for the establishment Republican? I guess what I’m trying to find out is, does your devotion to DJT surpass your hatred for Democrats/progressives? Would you accept someone like Kamala Harris if the Republican establishment outmaneuvered Trump in the primary?

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Your white hot hatred for all things Democratic Party and leftist/progressive politics is well founded. Your adoration of Donald Trump and your understanding of what he stands for is duly noted. Your contempt and disdain for the Republican Party establishment is understandable.

The question is: come 2024 if DJT announces he will run again and it splits the party in two, with the establishment refusing to endorse him and the Trump wing refusing to endorse the establishment, will you vote for Trump even if you know that will assure someone like Kamala Harris victory?

Not to quibble, but adoration is a word I save for babes with functioning girly gear.

I envision a strong, attractive, smart, high achieving woman heading up the GOP ticket. Too early to even guess who it'll be, but it's time for the GOP to get hip and groovy with a female.
Might be a fail, but the times suggest it's overdue to get jiggy with it, you know, before we get stereotyped as all male, all the time.
Oops, too late?

 

[2012Bearcat]

I’ve already said if Nikki Haley is the Republican nominee I’ll vote for Daffy Duck. I’m no longer going to support deep state Republicans because I dislike Democrats. If enough people demand a true Conservative party the Republicans will change or they will cease to exist. Of course this would mean that Democrats would have free reign to destroy the country until a true Conservative party is formed but sometimes it takes burning it all down to fix it.

 

[osuintx]

Not to quibble, but adoration is a word I save for babes with functioning girly gear.

I envision a strong, attractive, smart, high achieving woman heading up the GOP ticket. Too early to even guess who it'll be, but it's time for the GOP to get hip and groovy with a female.
Might be a fail, but the times suggest it's overdue to get jiggy with it, you know, before we get stereotyped as all male, all the time.
Oops, too late?

Left would eviscerate a female conservative- see Sarah Palin. Noem could get DJT peeps if he's not running-
She didn't do the shutdown BS so they've already eviscerated Her.

If GOP would have stood up and helped stop the mail in BS- they wouldn't have to worry about DJT in 2024 - nor Pedotus 2020- they're freaking wussy idiots

 

[osuintx]

Name me another candidate that can have people come out and celebrate him....AFTER he leaves office?! They think we're going to follow lock step with them AFTER what they did to him and us?! Nuh uh- Lo Siento. It's just NOT gonna happen.

Trump Or equivalent or they fight it out with the Dems without us- and might I say..."good luck"

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[2012Bearcat]

The Republican Party learned nothing and will try to go back to its old ways of talking a good game while doing nothing. That will not work with the Republican base and they will get destroyed in the 2024 election, rightfully so.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Left would eviscerate a female conservative- see Sarah Palin. Noem could get DJT peeps if he's not running-
She didn't do the shutdown BS so they've already eviscerated Her.

If GOP would have stood up and helped stop the mail in BS- they wouldn't have to worry about DJT in 2024 - nor Pedotus 2020- they're freaking wussy idiots

I'm a little more optimistic in general.
I think ole JoeMala will have this berg so utterly dysfunctional by 24, just about any pairing we put up will be competitive.
Of course, this is contingent on a conventional, one day, fair, no ballot harvesting election that's determined by midnight Pacific time.
I realize I might be asking for too much however.
They might be spoiled by cheating and unless there is federal oversight, they'll keep cheating until they can't.

 

[osuintx]

Yes agree- GOP fights for clean elections or people stay home. They put up a real Conservative NOT owned by special interest Or people stay home

I don't know if I ever get back tho- Purdy damned betrayed

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Yes agree- GOP fights for clean elections or people stay home. They put up a real Conservative NOT owned by special interest Or people stay home

I don't know if I ever get back tho- Purdy damned betrayed

Me too.
I stuck that I VOTED sticker on the microwave in November.
Everytime I see it now I want to uppercut Biden and make his chicken legs collapse.

"Clean up in my kitchen!"

 

[Alpha Woke]

Community organizing seems to’ve worked pretty well for the leftists. They won all the little battles.

They control everthing from the city level up and all the data.

If we stick to the same crap and don’t protect our flanks by winning small it’s over.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Community organizing seems to’ve worked pretty well for the leftists. They won all the little battles.

They control everthing from the city level up and all the data.

If we stick to the same crap and don’t protect our flanks by winning small it’s over.

Cases of blank ballots helped them too.

 

[Alpha Woke]

Cases of blank ballots helped them too.

Thats a lot easier when you control a city.

How many would you have to control to have an huge impact on an election?

Now pretend you get to remove any competing point of view from the echo chamber. We’ll ignore how Hitlery that is like all the D’s and bsg.

How do you lose?

 

[osuintx]

Cases of blank ballots helped them too.

And all the people they paid off? Global left throws million dollar payouts around like candy- hard to fight. Paid most of the swing state inner city workers $100 an hour to help cheat. How many of those city people not employed would cooperate for that doe?

ive hard blackmail is used as much or more than bribery with them- they have people can dig up anything on politicians etc. Bill Cassidy out of Louisiana turned on a dime to support impeachment- feel like he's always been a pretty good conservative. Bribery....or blackmail? I'd bet my house it wasn't him changing his beliefs in a few days time .

 

[Soonersincefitty]

And all the people they paid off? Global left throws million dollar payouts around like candy- hard to fight. Paid most of the swing state inner city workers $100 an hour to help cheat. How many of those city people not employed would cooperate for that doe?

ive hard blackmail is used as much or more than bribery with them- they have people can dig up anything on politicians etc. Bill Cassidy out of Louisiana turned on a dime to support impeachment- feel like he's always been a pretty good conservative. Bribery....or blackmail? I'd bet my house it wasn't him changing his beliefs in a few days time .

None of them have any core convictions anymore.
In fact, like him or not, only one man has been pure, beholding to no one except his voters. (and that homely Melania)
Can't be bought or bribed.
That's Trump.
Big ego, sure. I think as president that by default is quite normal.
74 million people were able to give him a pass because he improved their personal lives.

Now, we're decidedly back in the sewer with Biden.
I expect Joe will destroy America for 2 years, then hope we can get both houses back in 22. If we don't, we're fvcked.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Without election reform there is no point in anything. Voter ID, one ballot one person, clean rolls, sealed machines off the internet with no wireless connection capability, no mail in voting and one election day. There is no compromise on this either get it done or elections are a fraud and it doesn't matter who is in charge because we the people won't be.

 

[OUSOONER67]

You guys are delusional, Dims stole one this year. Will never be a Rethuglican Prez ever again unless its someone the Dims and the DS can control and the Dim Candidate is an outsider they cannot. Have we not learned anything tje past 4 yrs class? Trump was not wanted by the Dims or the Thuglicans because they ARE WORKING TOGETHER. I still cannot believe so many people are still fooled by this Good Cop Bad Cop charade the 2 Parties play.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Your adoration of Donald Trump and your understanding of what he stands for is duly noted.

Who “adores” Trump? What is your understanding of what Trump stands for, because it is apparently different from my own understanding?

Yes, I would for Trump if he ran in 2024. As far as a Republican other than Trump in the general election, I honestly don’t know.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Who “adores” Trump? What is your understanding of what Trump stands for, because it is apparently different from my own understanding?

Yes, I would for Trump if he ran in 2024. As far as a Republican other than Trump in the general election, I honestly don’t know.

My wording could have been better, I meant no disrespect. But, yes, my understanding of Trump’s political standards are almost certainly different from yours and others who are Trump fans. Surely you will agree that some Trump loyalists are absolutely fanatical in their support, and I do not think it is in error to say they adore him. Whether you personally fall into that category is for you to decide.

I have heard many Trump supporters on this board refer to his political beliefs as “conservative.” I would strongly disagree that he is a conservative. Where I think some people get confused is they think anyone who is against progressivism/socialism etc. is a conservative by default. There are several categories of big government statist, progressivism/socialism being only one. The primary defining characteristic of conservatism as I see it is a distrust of big government and advocacy of small decentralized authority. I do not see that as a foundation of Trumpism. Trumpism is a different brand of big government statism, with the battle lines being drawn between which statist gets to tell the rest of us how to live.

So I apologize to the thinner skinned Trump loyalists for my wording. It should have been more neutral. Because my intent was to learn whether the driving force behind Trump loyalty was more support for the man or hatred of his statist opponents.

 

[osuintx]

I adore Trump, I LOVE Trump. You can't have a sweetheart taking on the filth,vile global scum which includes Dims AND GOP POS. He is The only one since Reagan that are is compromised - rest are war mongrels killing our innocent solders and selling us out to China- TRAITORS NO less than that.

F Bush, Clinton and Hussein- Pedotus Biden I don't even recognize.

Anyone who has a problem with Trumps bedside manner have never had to fight against a mob like that- he's exactly what we need and hope the SCOTUS has some character left and takes these cases and gets Pedotus out of there- we are the biggest joke on the planet right now Bar None.

Trump fought hard and did so many good things- but he seemed to not fire enough people - maybe to Try To get along? Appease the swamp somewhat? I mean Barr appears to have been a traitor, Wray we know was a traitor, Haspel was a crook (of course the whole CIA is corrupt).
I mean if you're Trump you HAVE to have the best to lead FBI and DOJ - have to. They could have kept the election from being stolen from Trump By acting on Hunters email and holding big tech accountable somewhat.

If he had a second term I'm almost sure he would have went outside DC to get his next leaders- you almost have to.


If I wasn't quite clear enough in this I will say it one more time since many people can't say it for not wanting to get chastised- I LOVE DJT.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

My wording could have been better, I meant no disrespect. But, yes, my understanding of Trump’s political standards are almost certainly different from yours and others who are Trump fans. Surely you will agree that some Trump loyalists are absolutely fanatical in their support, and I do not think it is in error to say they adore him. Whether you personally fall into that category is for you to decide.

I have heard many Trump supporters on this board refer to his political beliefs as “conservative.” I would strongly disagree that he is a conservative. Where I think some people get confused is they think anyone who is against progressivism/socialism etc. is a conservative by default. There are several categories of big government statist, progressivism/socialism being only one. The primary defining characteristic of conservatism as I see it is a distrust of big government and advocacy of small decentralized authority. I do not see that as a foundation of Trumpism. Trumpism is a different brand of big government statism, with the battle lines being drawn between which statist gets to tell the rest of us how to live.

So I apologize to the thinner skinned Trump loyalists for my wording. It should have been more neutral. Because my intent was to learn whether the driving force behind Trump loyalty was more support for the man or hatred of his statist opponents.

Not to split hairs but don't confuse 'Absolutely Fanatical' with 'White hot disdain and loathing of the Marxists'.

Just a subtle semantic anomaly.

 

[osuintx]

My wording could have been better, I meant no disrespect. But, yes, my understanding of Trump’s political standards are almost certainly different from yours and others who are Trump fans. Surely you will agree that some Trump loyalists are absolutely fanatical in their support, and I do not think it is in error to say they adore him. Whether you personally fall into that category is for you to decide.

I have heard many Trump supporters on this board refer to his political beliefs as “conservative.” I would strongly disagree that he is a conservative. Where I think some people get confused is they think anyone who is against progressivism/socialism etc. is a conservative by default. There are several categories of big government statist, progressivism/socialism being only one. The primary defining characteristic of conservatism as I see it is a distrust of big government and advocacy of small decentralized authority. I do not see that as a foundation of Trumpism. Trumpism is a different brand of big government statism, with the battle lines being drawn between which statist gets to tell the rest of us how to live.

So I apologize to the thinner skinned Trump loyalists for my wording. It should have been more neutral. Because my intent was to learn whether the driving force behind Trump loyalty was more support for the man or hatred of his statist opponents.

I love the man but sure didn't agree with everything he did as you stated- his govt way to big for me. Anyone that the left hates I love- pretty easy summation.
Also what made me love him? Middle East Peace, Big time pro life , big time soldier first guy, Steong military, he made the VA great from terrible, made animal cruelty a felony, only Prez I know to make it a point to go hard after child traffickers, strong border walk guy.....how could you not love him?

Give me a Great Dr with a crappy bedside manner over a Nice guy that is 50/50 to save my life please. Here's another deal- many can't say anything positive about DJT until they put out a disclaimer. Like " I don't like the way he tweets but"......" well he could say things better but"
The man was great at being nice- the media fueled the hatred for him.

Guy at work didn't vote for him bc he didn't like how he talked - I said name an instance why you would not vote for him over Pedo Joe That he talked so bad?-
Said something about his tweets- he was a big Bush guy. I said you'd take Bush over Trump when Trump brought our soldiers home...those sons of Mothers and daughters - yet Bush sent 100's of thousands off to fight and die in useless Wars that the global elite always wants so they can get rich off of? He's an idiot.

Give me Trump all day and Twice on Sundays WITH no disclaimers-
Pick a side

 

[Ponca Dan]

Not to split hairs but don't confuse 'Absolutely Fanatical' with 'White hot disdain and loathing of the Marxists'.

Just a subtle semantic anomaly.

Now you’re just quibbling.

 

[Ostatedchi]

Ponca Dan has a totally inaccurate perception of reality.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Now you’re just quibbling.

Busted!

 

[xplor58]

As the 2022 elections go so goes 2024.

With the executive orders already passed - which won't affect the country as a whole for a few more months - and with the massive tax increases that are going to come along soon, if that sure does not drive people to vote republican then 2024 doesn't matter.

Of course the dems have it all rigged going forward so it may not matter unless that is fixed.

And lastly if big tech is not broken into smal little piece parts soon we will all be ruled by a combination of apple- ms- google - Facebook- twitter....

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Dan still doesn’t get why people support Trump. It’s not about worshipping or adoring him. If he went all Nicki Haley on them, his supporters would drop him in a heartbeat. It’s not so much about him, as it is about what he’s taken a stand against (ie. Marxists, anti-American Americans, anti-white, anti-heterosexual, anti-Christian bigots, and republicvnts who are too weak-willed to stand against them). Also, not since Reagan have I see a president who was so staunchly “America First” in his ideology. As far as “conservatism” goes, the so-called “conservative intelligentsia” have shown that they’re perfectly willing to just bend over, grab their ankles, and take it up the ass from the democrooks, so long as they don’t get PNG’ed by the DC cocktail circuit.

 

[Alpha Woke]

Dan still doesn’t get why people support Trump. It’s not about worshipping or adoring him. If he went all Nicki Haley on them, his supporters would drop him in a heartbeat. It’s not so much about him, as it is about what he’s taken a stand against (ie. Marxists, anti-American Americans, anti-white, anti-heterosexual, anti-Christian bigots, and republicvnts who are too weak-willed to stand against them). Also, not since Reagan have I see a president who was so staunchly “America First” in his ideology. As far as “conservatism” goes, the so-called “conservative intelligentsia” have shown that they’re perfectly willing to just bend over, grab their ankles, and take it up the ass from the democrooks, so long as they don’t get PNG’ed by the DC cocktail circuit.

You can tell people why you voted for Trump until you’re blue.

That doesn’t matter.

They’ve been told by the other side why Trump received votes.

And for those that don’t have a grasp on how their brain processes information, they get stuck in a manufactured loop like Dan.

Never knowing how they got there..

 

[Ponca Dan]

Dan still doesn’t get why people support Trump. It’s not about worshipping or adoring him. If he went all Nicki Haley on them, his supporters would drop him in a heartbeat. It’s not so much about him, as it is about what he’s taken a stand against (ie. Marxists, anti-American Americans, anti-white, anti-heterosexual, anti-Christian bigots, and republicvnts who are too weak-willed to stand against them). Also, not since Reagan have I see a president who was so staunchly “America First” in his ideology. As far as “conservatism” goes, the so-called “conservative intelligentsia” have shown that they’re perfectly willing to just bend over, grab their ankles, and take it up the ass from the democrooks, so long as they don’t get PNG’ed by the DC cocktail circuit.

I think I understand perfectly well why people support Trump. It is crystal clear in your remarks. Most people support Trump for what he tells them he is AGAINST. He is against leftist big government statism and he’s not shy about saying so. He stands up to the leftists in ways never seen by most Republicans. He “don’t take no shit” off them. And that is exhilarating for all of us, me included. His defiance against the leftist mob is so different from what we have traditionally seen by establishment Republicans. I understand that perfectly well.

But I would argue very few Trump supporters (not you, obviously) could tell us what Trump stands FOR beyond sound bite excerpts from what they have heard. I think very few Trump supporters could go into depth as to what are his policies, why they matter, and what they actually represent philosophically. I think that is in large part because Trump has never bothered to explain such things, probably because he has never bothered to think about them himself, relying solely on his “gut instinct” as he has told us many times.

In that regard the Trump supporters are pretty similar to their leftist counterparts who have not thought deeply about what their leftist advocacy represents beyond pie in the sky.

I know it drives most Trump supporters into fury to hear that, but I’m offering up my opinion on an opinion board. Most supporters of statist politicians do not think very far past the utopian promises their leaders give them. That applies to Trump supporters to the same degree as the Bernie Bros.

 

[Ostatedchi]

I think I understand perfectly well why people support Trump. It is crystal clear in your remarks. Most people support Trump for what he tells them he is AGAINST. He is against leftist big government statism and he’s not shy about saying so. He stands up to the leftists in ways never seen by most Republicans. He “don’t take no shit” off them. And that is exhilarating for all of us, me included. His defiance against the leftist mob is so different from what we have traditionally seen by establishment Republicans. I understand that perfectly well.

But I would argue very few Trump supporters (not you, obviously) could tell us what Trump stands FOR beyond sound bite excerpts from what they have heard. I think very few Trump supporters could go into depth as to what are his policies, why they matter, and what they actually represent philosophically. I think that is in large part because Trump has never bothered to explain such things, probably because he has never bothered to think about them himself, relying solely on his “gut instinct” as he has told us many times.

In that regard the Trump supporters are pretty similar to their leftist counterparts who have not thought deeply about what their leftist advocacy represents beyond pie in the sky.

I know it drives most Trump supporters into fury to hear that, but I’m offering up my opinion on an opinion board. Most supporters of statist politicians do not think very far past the utopian promises their leaders give them. That applies to Trump supporters to the same degree as the Bernie Bros.

You really are bad at this.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

I think I understand perfectly well why people support Trump. It is crystal clear in your remarks. Most people support Trump for what he tells them he is AGAINST. He is against leftist big government statism and he’s not shy about saying so. He stands up to the leftists in ways never seen by most Republicans. He “don’t take no shit” off them. And that is exhilarating for all of us, me included. His defiance against the leftist mob is so different from what we have traditionally seen by establishment Republicans. I understand that perfectly well.

But I would argue very few Trump supporters (not you, obviously) could tell us what Trump stands FOR beyond sound bite excerpts from what they have heard. I think very few Trump supporters could go into depth as to what are his policies, why they matter, and what they actually represent philosophically. I think that is in large part because Trump has never bothered to explain such things, probably because he has never bothered to think about them himself, relying solely on his “gut instinct” as he has told us many times.

In that regard the Trump supporters are pretty similar to their leftist counterparts who have not thought deeply about what their leftist advocacy represents beyond pie in the sky.

I know it drives most Trump supporters into fury to hear that, but I’m offering up my opinion on an opinion board. Most supporters of statist politicians do not think very far past the utopian promises their leaders give them. That applies to Trump supporters to the same degree as the Bernie Bros.

If one is against what people like me and other Trump supporters are against, then one doesn’t really need to be “for” anything. If I’m against arson, do I need to make it known that I’m for the concept of letting structures stand without being set aflame?

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Daniel reminds me of those Macaques, protected in most countries.
They do this annoying trick to the hapless tourists.
They'll grab anything you have in hand.
Cell phones, sunglasses, scarves, then hold them for ransom.
The ransom is food.
For 3 bananas they'll return your cell phone. Etcetera.

Don't let PD grab your personal effects!

 

[Ponca Dan]

If one is against what people like me and other Trump supporters are against, then one doesn’t really need to be “for” anything. If I’m against arson, do I need to make it known that I’m for the concept of letting structures stand without being set aflame?

Two points I would make in response:

1). I assume from your reply you are conceding that I understand the Trump supporter better than you thought.

2). It is not enough in politics or the administration of government to support someone only for what he is against. It is crucial that one knows what is being advocated, not just opposed.

For example:

The Chinese were against Chiang Kai-Shek, and welcomed Mao with open arms. They had not bothered to understand what he was for.

The Russians thought they had had their fill with the Czar. They had not bothered to understand what Lenin and Associates stood for.

The Cubans thought Bautista was a brutal dictator (they were right about that), and so they supported the guy who was against him. Little did they realize they were trading tyranny for more tyranny.

The point is it is not enough to support someone because of what he tells you he’s against. If you support him you should know what he’s for. I do not think the majority of Trump supporters could tell us what he was for, only what he was against. I’m not suggesting Trump would become a maniacal murderer of his own people. I’m am suggesting that’s how a surprising number of maniacal killers come to power. Our Founding Fathers advised us to be ever vigilant. I think vigilance/protecting our liberty has fallen way down the list of priorities for too many Americans, mainly those on the left, but the Trump faithful are a little lax in that regard as well.