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Who said that Dan? Certainly government support speeds things up, but no one said it was necessary. We have talked about externalities several times, and you still haven't bothered to learn what it is.

If you think government intervention is cheating, wait until you hear about how much the government was involved in everyone's favorite energy source, nuclear.
What do you call it if you don’t call it cheating?
 
it also took roughly 40 years for cars to supplant horses. Could have happened much faster with intervention.
Sure it could have taken less time, but it wasn't necessary just like government intervention isn't necessary to make the move from ICE to electric.
 
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Imagine being so concerned about climate change that you’re certain the Chinese will fix it.


China has already approved more new coal in 2023 than it did in all of 2021 — Greenpeace. Beijing – Provincial governments in China approved at least 20.45 gigawatts (GW) of new coal in the first three months of 2023, according to official approval documents, while frequently citing energy security concerns.

But they are still building coal plants
 


China has already approved more new coal in 2023 than it did in all of 2021 — Greenpeace. Beijing – Provincial governments in China approved at least 20.45 gigawatts (GW) of new coal in the first three months of 2023, according to official approval documents, while frequently citing energy security concerns.

But they are still building coal plants
They added 60 GW of solar through May.
 
They added 60 GW of solar through May.
In addition to the coal plants which as of July of 2022 was 1,118 coal plants on mainland china.


Just for sh!ts and giggles the us has 222 operational plants.

 
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A buoy in the Florida Keys recorded a suface temperature of 101.1, equivalent to a hot tub. The coral reef south of it is all dead.

The Mediterranean Sea reached its warmest temperature on record Monday.


These are all normal occurrences tho……….simply cyclical……..




carry on
 
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More trees today than 100 years ago. Maybe trees are causing global warming?
Definitely don't consider things like groundwater pumping having any effect on ocean levels or the climate. Only cars and cows can change the otherwise historically static climate. The same folks who can't figure out when a human life begins and don't know what a woman is assure us the climate won't change anymore if we just get rid of our cows and cars.
 
Definitely don't consider things like groundwater pumping having any effect on ocean levels or the climate. Only cars and cows can change the otherwise historically static climate. The same folks who can't figure out when a human life begins and don't know what a woman is assure us the climate won't change anymore if we just get rid of our cows and cars.
It’s no surprise that an AI bot convinced some left winger to kill himself because of climate change.
 
There is no doubt in my mind that the science is right.

I know absolutely nothing about climate science, but the arguments and motives against the science are plainly wrong. Just... dumb. You can listen to the skeptics and know we're all in deep shit. They've used big tobaccos arguments for years and some are even saying drought, hurricanes, and weather extremes are good. Just no stop to the idiocy. So yeah... it's for real.
 
There is no doubt in my mind that the science is right.

I know absolutely nothing about climate science, but the arguments and motives against the science are plainly wrong. Just... dumb. You can listen to the skeptics and know we're all in deep shit. They've used big tobaccos arguments for years and some are even saying drought, hurricanes, and weather extremes are good. Just no stop to the idiocy. So yeah... it's for real.
So weather extremes only started to occur in the last 100 years?

Also, I just asked how concerned you are, not if it’s real.
 
The alarmists so many on Team Pilt confuse for scientists. Are you new to this subject?
If you could help me out, I'm just looking for a quote from someone giving assurance that if we get rid of cars and cows the climate will never change.
 
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There is no doubt in my mind that the science is right.

I know absolutely nothing about climate science, but the arguments and motives against the science are plainly wrong. Just... dumb. You can listen to the skeptics and know we're all in deep shit. They've used big tobaccos arguments for years and some are even saying drought, hurricanes, and weather extremes are good. Just no stop to the idiocy. So yeah... it's for real.

This take is based on emotion and not logic.
It’s amazing you call other people dumb.
 
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There is no doubt in my mind that the science is right.

I know absolutely nothing about climate science, but the arguments and motives against the science are plainly wrong. Just... dumb. You can listen to the skeptics and know we're all in deep shit. They've used big tobaccos arguments for years and some are even saying drought, hurricanes, and weather extremes are good. Just no stop to the idiocy. So yeah... it's for real.
How can you make a statement if it's real or not if you 'I know absolutely nothing about climate science, but the arguments and motives against the science are plainly wrong. ".
 
What’s illogical about not trusting the rich elitists burning up jet fuel to preach about climate change? There is zero emotion in that line of thinking.

If you find some, quote it.
Wow so emotional. Rich? Elitists? Trust? Preach? Where is the logic there?

Rich elitist who burn jetful and preaching has no bearing on the science of climate change at all. If the pope is a hypocrite are you giving up on God?

Meanwhile opponents of climate action relying solely on dumb and misinformed arguments is a good indicator that there are no good arguments against climate action.
 
Wow so emotional. Rich? Elitists? Trust? Preach? Where is the logic there?

Rich elitist who burn jetful and preaching has no bearing on the science of climate change at all. If the pope is a hypocrite are you giving up on God?

Meanwhile opponents of climate action relying solely on dumb and misinformed arguments is a good indicator that there are no good arguments against climate action.

Funny
 
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Wow so emotional. Rich? Elitists? Trust? Preach? Where is the logic there?

Rich elitist who burn jetful and preaching has no bearing on the science of climate change at all. If the pope is a hypocrite are you giving up on God?

Meanwhile opponents of climate action relying solely on dumb and misinformed arguments is a good indicator that there are no good arguments against climate action.
If the Pope is a hypocrite some would definitely question their faith.

Dims do not understand rules for thee, but not for me. Dims believe their hypocrites should be able sell any talking point, because they are Dims. Hypocrites are basically a slightly better face than a narcissistic liar, because the sheep believe their hypocrites are speaking the truth.

Hypocrites are wolves in sheep clothing.
 
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Wow so emotional. Rich? Elitists? Trust? Preach? Where is the logic there?

Rich elitist who burn jetful and preaching has no bearing on the science of climate change at all. If the pope is a hypocrite are you giving up on God?

Meanwhile opponents of climate action relying solely on dumb and misinformed arguments is a good indicator that there are no good arguments against climate action.

How are those words emotional? Are they not true? Exaggerated?
 
The increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is aligned with the increase in life expectancy over the past 125 years. Maybe the increase in CO2 is a good thing.
 
If the Pope is a hypocrite some would definitely question their faith.

Dims do not understand rules for thee, but not for me. Dims believe their hypocrites should be able sell any talking point, because they are Dims. Hypocrites are basically a slightly better face than a narcissistic liar, because the sheep believe their hypocrites are speaking the truth.

Hypocrites are wolves in sheep clothing.
Thats some really shallow faith if the existence of god depends on the actions of one man.
 
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