Should have cured dementia first. What a dumbass. 🤣😂
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Imagine being so concerned about climate change that you’re certain the Chinese will fix it.Probably not your lifespan, but definitely mine. We have had a decade of technological miracles since you last checked.
China on course to hit wind and solar power target five years ahead of time
Beijing bolstering position as global renewables leader with solar capacity more than rest of world combinedwww.theguardian.com
For comparison that 1200 GW is greater than the installed electrical generation capacity from all sources in the the US in 2020
Its amazing how easy it was to overlook that China is permitting construction of 2 new Coal-based power plants per week.
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The climate alarmists have a well earned well deserved reputation as pearl clutching, hyperventilating, hyperbolic pathological liars who call upon police state tactics when they can’t persuade. Whenever someone or some organization or a movement implores the government to “do something” to accomplish its goals via police power because their lies have been so egregious and so often, and their predictions are continually shown to be intentionally false, it/they should be ridiculed into oblivion. Anyone who answers with a number greater than zero has obviously not been paying attention.
7 but we need to reduce the population and luxuries in life and that won’t happen.
Uh, squeakster and I are both numbers experts. The OP scale was 1 to 10. Most paid attention; lose the zero bullshit.
More renewable capacity added in 2022 than coal capacity permitted.
US only. Which means we are pissing in the wind. You have a hose filling up a tub and we are taking water out a teaspoon at a time.
If you don’t solve the per capita standard of living in China and India with renewable energy, waste of time.
And let’s not act like renewable energy is clean. What about those batteries with solar? Go read about how much hydrocarbons it takes to build one wind turbine.
It takes 170 tons of coal to build one wind turbine.
“A two-megawatt windmill is made up of 260 tons of steel that required 300 tons of iron ore and 170 tons of coking coal, all mined, transported and produced by hydrocarbons. “A windmill could spin until it falls apart and never generate as much energy as was invested in building it.”
To Get Wind Power You Need Oil
Each wind turbine embodies a whole lot of petrochemicals and fossil-fuel energy
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So easily duped.
No those figures are from China not the US.
Is that a lot compared to fossil fuel generation? Did you bother to look it up? (It's not) https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2021/06/whats-the-carbon-footprint-of-a-wind-turbine/
From your very own link (from 7 years ago)“A two-megawatt windmill is made up of 260 tons of steel that required 300 tons of iron ore and 170 tons of coking coal, all mined, transported and produced by hydrocarbons. “A windmill could spin until it falls apart and never generate as much energy as was invested in building it.”
To Get Wind Power You Need Oil
Each wind turbine embodies a whole lot of petrochemicals and fossil-fuel energy
"Undoubtedly, a well-sited and well-built wind turbine would generate as much energy as it embodies in less than a year."
On the front and back end it’s worse.
Thats the part nobody pushing ”greenish” tek never talk about.
@COWBOYintheUK you’ve been asked, what are you doing? If you are a ten you better be off the grid with no vehicles or travel.
First paragraph…
“Tens of thousands of Americans are already experiencing the climate crisis. They've lost their homes, their pets and their loved ones.”
Such a ridiculous statement. It’s no wonder some people have a climate change related anxiety disorder.
Kinda like Joe cured cancer.
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More “green/climate alarmist” baloney. If the picture is as rosy as you pretend there would be countless organizations jumping on board without the need for any government participation, subsidy, loan guarantees and the like. That government is needed to ram “green propaganda” down our throats is all anyone needs to see to know it’s all a ruse.
Dan maybe you should familiarize yourself with countless organizations
Do tell me about all the organizations involved in the industry that don’t have a hand out in expectation of a subsidy, tax break, loan guarantee, etc.
Explain the need the “greens” have to persuade the government to ban their fossil fuel competition, things like automobiles, water heaters, etc. if their utopia is right around the corner.
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That's how you grow an unprofitable business into a profitable one, Dan. The first GW is much more expensive than the last GW. How competitive would fossil fuels be if they had to pay for the all the externalities they create? The fact that they don't pay for those externalities is a massive subsidy.
Ehh, maybe. I could probably find some child miners that would argue against your point.
Let’s revisit when we know the impacts of end of life of the tek.
It didn't require government intervention to get people to switch from horses to cars as a primary mode of transportation. How many people riding horses do you see on the interstate these days?
Oh, I see. An unprofitable business can only become profitable by getting the government to ban the competition and also cover any negative externality using taxpayer funds. Sounds like something a socialist would think. Oh, wait …
What, in your mind, are the children mining in order to make solar panels?
If it was 1890 and life expectancy was 40, these liberals would be begging the government to leverage fossil fuels to double the life expectancy in less than 100 years.
it also took roughly 40 years for cars to supplant horses. Could have happened much faster with intervention.
Nothing.
I thought you could follow the simple reference to tec as other green solutions.
Great argument though. Lol
Imagine how hot it would be today if that had happened!
Who said that Dan? Certainly government support speeds things up, but no one said it was necessary. We have talked about externalities several times, and you still haven't bothered to learn what it is.
If you think government intervention is cheating, wait until you hear about how much the government was involved in everyone's favorite energy source, nuclear.
Interesting how Libs want to support a war in Ukraine producing all of these hydrocarbons. Total hypocrites. Just about power and politics.
