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Best move IMHO.
When both were Freshmen, Surber pushed the former 197 as much as anyone that year in the Orange Black Ranking Match.
Allows you to get Doucet in there as well.
I thought Wittlake was going 184 and sheets was going 165?Where does that leave Wittlake & Haas - at 165 & 184? That would probably be our strongest lineup.
If Haas can't make 184, he could also challenge Doucet at heavy.
Yep, that's what Intermat had, but it looks like things are still being decided. Based on Lee's post, seems like there are some unknowns.I thought Wittlake was going 184 and sheets was going 165?
So will be interesting to see where Haas fits in, can he take Surber or Wittlake?
Haas wrestled 182 as a HS soph and it was reportedly a pretty hard cut. After that season, he went 195, then 92 KG, then 220. Personally, I'd like to see him commit now to going heavy. Doucet is bigger and has some talent, but Haas is much more aggressive/offensive. Then have Stika go 184 if Wittlake isn't ready.
Could be. But AJ had 197 locked down when Haas wrestled 184 last November. That forced Surber up and Haas down.Haas is a pretty physically mature kid and after a year in a college S&C program wrestled at 184 here during his RS season. I think it’s likely 184 is the correct weight for him.
Don’t see who they would force that cut on him for open tournaments if not.
Could be. But AJ had 197 locked down when Haas wrestled 184 last November. That forced Surber up and Haas down.
I just hope the plan isn't to have Wittlake & Haas rank for 184 in December. Then it will be very late for one of them to change weights.
Haas wrestled both 184 & 197 during his redshirt year. He was at 184 in November and at 197 in January. Then in June he went 92 KG rather than 86 KG for freestyle. He might end up at 184 this year, but he hasn't made 184 on 1 hour weigh-ins in 3 1/2 years.Haas wrestling 184 in his RS year likely had nothing to do with AJ. Both 84 and 97 were solidified. He likely went 184 because it’s the weight he was comfortable with and wants to compete at. No reason to make that cut if not.
I think at this point in the season, the only thing we know for certain is that Plott will be at 174. You could make a case for either Witlake or Haas at 184 and IMHO if Witlake is healthy he will be the 184. Haas may have gotten bigger but we might forget that Witlake came to OSU as either a 184 or 197 pounder. It might come down to who can hold the weight better and who is the technically better wrestler and in that case because Witlake(when healthy) is good in all three positions and Haas has yet to show me that attribute. Surber will do fine at 197. I know all this because I stayed at a Holiday Inn last year and that is my only real qualification.Haas wrestling 184 in his RS year likely had nothing to do with AJ. Both 84 and 97 were solidified. He likely went 184 because it’s the weight he was comfortable with and wants to compete at. No reason to make that cut if not.
Haas wrestled both 184 & 197 during his redshirt year. He was at 184 in November and at 197 in January. Then in June he went 92 KG rather than 86 KG for freestyle. He might end up at 184 this year, but he hasn't made 184 on 1 hour weigh-ins in 3 1/2 years.
I ran with you enough to know you are a Motel 6 kind of guy. Can't trust a guy lying about going to a Inn when a Motel fits his pocketbook.I think at this point in the season, the only thing we know for certain is that Plott will be at 174. You could make a case for either Witlake or Haas at 184 and IMHO if Witlake is healthy he will be the 184. Haas may have gotten bigger but we might forget that Witlake came to OSU as either a 184 or 197 pounder. It might come down to who can hold the weight better and who is the technically better wrestler and in that case because Witlake(when healthy) is good in all three positions and Haas has yet to show me that attribute. Surber will do fine at 197. I know all this because I stayed at a Holiday Inn last year and that is my only real qualification.
I ran with you enough to know you are a Motel 6 kind of guy. Can't trust a guy lying about going to a Inn when a Motel fits his pocketbook.
I ran with you enough to know you are a Motel 6 kind of guy. Can't trust a guy lying about going to a Inn when a Motel fits his pocketbook.
Don't believe it. Word on the street is O and a friend already have a room reserved nearby (ok 45 min out) for the NCAA tourney.When we were running together it is well known that I had lowered my standards to a great degree. But now that you won't write,call or email my standards have risen to even greater heights and I might even stay at a Marriot.
That might be a step up from where Tognetti and I have stayed.Don't believe it. Word on the street is O and a friend already have a room reserved nearby (ok 45 min out) for the NCAA tourney.
My question is when Wittlake gets healthy and if the coaches allow for ranking matches at 184 what happens in either scenario? Haas loses and bumps up to 197?, Wittlake loses and cuts 20 lbs to 165? Either way somebody is going to be left out and my guess it would be Surber. Unless Wittlake just cant make the cut I personally feel like Wittlake at 165 is our best lineup moving forward.From the take it FWIW...
- OSU wrestling tweeted a workout video yesterday. Wittlake looks pretty big. And Haas looks pretty lean now, smaller than he did when he wrestled @ 92 KG / 203 lbs in June. With Surber dropping to 197, Haas could be going down, rather than up.
- Younger Mastro no longer has OSU listed on his Instagram bio. Maybe moving on? With Anthony Ferrari, Boone & Balmeceda gone, a potential 149-157 logjam could be over.
Are you seriously saying a kid should cut 10% body weight and if can't make the lineup just cut another 10+%, why not just go to 149? ;_;My question is when Wittlake gets healthy and if the coaches allow for ranking matches at 184 what happens in either scenario? Haas loses and bumps up to 197?, Wittlake loses and cuts 20 lbs to 165? Either way somebody is going to be left out and my guess it would be Surber. Unless Wittlake just cant make the cut I personally feel like Wittlake at 165 is our best lineup moving forward.
Wittlake would have to certify @ 165 in order to drop after a ranking match. That could be an issue if he's as big as everyone says. Haas could go up and challenge Surber, but it would probably be too late for either of them to add size for heavy. That's why I think Haas should commit to heavy now. Then there would be a plan in place for Sheets, Wittlake, Surber & Haas.My question is when Wittlake gets healthy and if the coaches allow for ranking matches at 184 what happens in either scenario? Haas loses and bumps up to 197?, Wittlake loses and cuts 20 lbs to 165? Either way somebody is going to be left out and my guess it would be Surber. Unless Wittlake just cant make the cut I personally feel like Wittlake at 165 is our best lineup moving forward.
I noticed that Travis Mastro hasn't been in Stillwater much this summer. Looks like he's spent the majority of his summer down in Florida. Not sure if anyone has some insight to this they could share.
He is listed on the roster (Travis). I agree that Travis at 165 gives us our best lineup, but sometimes we don't get what we wish for.Wittlake would have to certify @ 165 in order to drop after a ranking match. That could be an issue if he's as big as everyone says. Haas could go up and challenge Surber, but it would probably be too late for either of them to add size for heavy. That's why I think Haas should commit to heavy now. Then there would be a plan in place for Sheets, Wittlake, Surber & Haas.
Travis Mastro is listed in the online directory, but I don't know what's been going on with him
The Trackwrestling roster was updated the other day and Travis Mastro is listed there as well. Jordan Williams is also listed even though he isn't listed on the online roster yet.He is listed on the roster (Travis). I agree that Travis at 165 gives us our best lineup, but sometimes we don't get what we wish for.