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only if you give it to them. Why doesn't Cael have this problem? Maybe TanTom isn't "communicating" well. Welsh thinks he has been lied to. Bouzakis thinks he has been lied to. I see a trend.
I hope that any kid “shopping” around is encouraged to not let the door hit them where the good lord split them.
You’re absolutely right, but if this program is/can be what we want it to be then you don’t let any kid do this. Especially mid season.
If he was in Stillwater this past weekend and was "shopping" around then he clearly isn't happy with his current situation. He either did this because he wants to leave and or wanted some leverage to negotiate. What did Ryan do to make things right? Did they just pay him off to stay? That doesn't help the situation if the kid wants to wrestle IMO.
Which is exactly why a player (at a top 5 program) that shops around should be dropped. This is at best toxic to the culture right? I may be very “get off my lawn” with this take but I just wouldn’t want a kid to be doing this during season. Off season with the current rules I’m gonna just look the other way because it’s here now but mid season is a bad look.
I definitely isn’t good. I would expect the NCAA to address some of these problems pretty soon. You will see some of the big money this year, but it isn’t sustainable, especially programs that are throwing huge cash at athletes that don’t pan out.
I agree. If Ryan had balls, he would have taken the temporary hit by releasing Welsh for the long term gain in clarity for the entire team. Ryan looks weak here.
IMO it’s like if an employee comes to you and says “Hey I’ve got a job offer from X, and they’re going to pay me Y. If you can’t match or exceed that, I’m out.”
Doesn’t matter whether you stay or go in that moment. As soon as you say it you’ve started a clock on your time there because it’s known you’re looking for an exit and aren’t bought in. May be a month, may be a year or two. Either way, tick tick tick.
Doesn’t matter whether you stay or go in that moment. As soon as you say it you’ve started a clock on your time there because it’s known you’re looking for an exit and aren’t bought in. May be a month, may be a year or two. Either way, tick tick tick.
BINGO. Management 101. Anyone who talks about leaving is already mentally gone. I would think someone of Ryan's age would already know that. You don't negotiate with terrorists. Welsh is a terrorist in Ryan's program. No bueno.
Y'all sure are drawing a lot of conclusions from a Mineo post. Don't give that guy that much power lol
I wouldn’t have said a word if Welsh hadn’t tweeted basically confirming stuff was happening. After that, it’s fair game to draw conclusions.
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Lmao not even close. I meant I wouldn’t have said anything about the welsh thing on here until he tweeted. If it was just mineo talking I wouldn’t have blasted welsh or Ohio state for how this looked, but since welsh tweeted, confirming it, it’s fair to talk crap about how this looked imo.
Leave me out of this! 😆
It took a few posts before I realized it wasn't you he was talking about. 🤣
It's a new generation of athlete. and just like in real-life - asking for more money doesn't mean your "checked out"
Unless you just completely HATE your job/position/company - most people would elect to stay at their current place of employment if they were given more money - when offered more at another place.
Unless you just completely HATE your job/position/company - most people would elect to stay at their current place of employment if they were given more money - when offered more at another place.
Simple... No one else can afford to tell a kid/national finalist to kick rocks. Carl - by force of the number of high level recruits he has coming in and the fact that he's the only winning both multiple individual and team natty titles can tell any one kid to kick rocks.
and you yourself know that Carl was one signature/one firing away from leaving PSU. That "flirtation" sure hasn't damaged his motivation, passion and love for all things PSU wrestling.
I know that issue seems like it's the same as Welsh, but it isn't. Cael was highlighting a problem within the institution, namely the AD. Other coaches had the same issue but didn't have the gravatis of Cael Sanderson. Cael was not trying to enrich himself but to protect his program. Hopefully you and others can see the different between that and Rocco Welsh trying to gain personal advantage.
I like to think I have a little more dignity and class than the other Pat who stirs the pot on twitter constantly.
