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This is subjective and how you place at a different weight doesn’t dictate who the better wrestler is. Because Plott out placed Hamiti at a different weight doesn’t make him the better wrestler. Not to mention, I have reports that Hamiti gets the best of Plott in the room. You’re welcome to your own opinion but it doesn’t make it better than mine.

By the way, I don’t mind what you said but I don’t like how you said it either 😀

This is subjective and how you place at a different weight doesn’t dictate who the better wrestler is. Because Plott out placed Hamiti at a different weight doesn’t make him the better wrestler. Not to mention, I have reports that Hamiti gets the best of Plott in the room. You’re welcome to your own opinion but it doesn’t make it better than mine.

By the way, I don’t mind what you said but I don’t like how you said it either 😀
You might be the most dense person on the planet?

You are flirting with the stupidest human I’ve dealt with.

Oh, and my reports say you’re wrong,
 
Just saying, we always talk about how hostile the Iowa board can be. I commented on one of @MALOS posts over there and got that treatment from them. Told them to have a great day. Maybe MALOS is over here because he is tired of all of the nonsense over there. You may not agree with what he is saying but it does not mean we have to be a**es to him.

He has made some valid points on why he thinks Hamiti may be OK State's best wrestler. You do not have to agree with it, but I would say as far as Hamiti and Plott, it is very close. When did Plott really jump to that next level? It was when he did not have to cut weight and bumped up to 184. Honestly at 174, I feel like we were all on the edge of our seats with close matches, when he should have blown them out. And he took some bad losses. We did not get that warm and fuzzy feeling when he stepped on the mat before he bumped up.

I would say that the two are very close in the level of wrestler they are. I would call it a toss up. And with Hamiti not having to cut down to 165 this year, I really think he jumps levels this year and contends for the National title. Some interesting facts on Hamiti that may surprise some of you........................

Referenced Wrestlestat.
15 careers losses/Largest loss was 10-4, to Griffith/12 losses by 3 points or less/All losses came to Top 5 wrestlers, National Champs, or All Americans. (List Below)

David Carr x3
Alex Marinelli x3 (1 by medical forfeit)
Cam Amine x3
Quincy Monday x2
Shane Griffith x2
Mitchell Mesenbrink x1
Izzak Olejnik x1
 
Just saying, we always talk about how hostile the Iowa board can be. I commented on one of @MALOS posts over there and got that treatment from them. Told them to have a great day. Maybe MALOS is over here because he is tired of all of the nonsense over there. You may not agree with what he is saying but it does not mean we have to be a**es to him.

He has made some valid points on why he thinks Hamiti may be OK State's best wrestler. You do not have to agree with it, but I would say as far as Hamiti and Plott, it is very close. When did Plott really jump to that next level? It was when he did not have to cut weight and bumped up to 184. Honestly at 174, I feel like we were all on the edge of our seats with close matches, when he should have blown them out. And he took some bad losses. We did not get that warm and fuzzy feeling when he stepped on the mat before he bumped up.

I would say that the two are very close in the level of wrestler they are. I would call it a toss up. And with Hamiti not having to cut down to 165 this year, I really think he jumps levels this year and contends for the National title. Some interesting facts on Hamiti that may surprise some of you........................

Referenced Wrestlestat.
15 careers losses/Largest loss was 10-4, to Griffith/12 losses by 3 points or less/All losses came to Top 5 wrestlers, National Champs, or All Americans. (List Below)

David Carr x3
Alex Marinelli x3 (1 by medical forfeit)
Cam Amine x3
Quincy Monday x2
Shane Griffith x2
Mitchell Mesenbrink x1
Izzak Olejnik x1
He’s over here because he’s picking fights…not because he wants to discuss Wrestling. He is your typical Iowa stereotype. He’s part of the nonsense, not tired of it. Trust me on that one.

I for one, don’t want him here. He’s trouble waiting to happen.
 
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He’s over here because he’s picking fights…not because he wants to discuss Wrestling. He is your typical Iowa stereotype. He’s part of the nonsense, not tired of it. Trust me on that one.

I for one, don’t want him here. He’s trouble waiting to happen.
I would disagree. The guy has tried to joke around, has contributed to some good wrestling talk, and has even put compliments out there. Most of the shots fired have been from people that live here on this forum. But like I have always said to whoever it may be, we can agree to disagree on this topic. It's all good!
 
This is the problem with society…hear something you don’t like cancel um or don’t try and understand there point of view…not sure there was any malicious intent behind his post. Even if there was don’t let people rustle feathers so easy.
Cool… nothing was deleted or “cancelled” and I didn’t move anything until it started completely over running the pinned HS recruiting thread.
 
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I would disagree. The guy has tried to joke around, has contributed to some good wrestling talk, and has even put compliments out there. Most of the shots fired have been from people that live here on this forum. But like I have always said to whoever it may be, we can agree to disagree on this topic. It's all good!
Haha, it’s clear you’re not going to trust me on this one.
 
I'm here for it. @MALOS - you get your very own thread on a rival's board! Applaud yourself.

Now. You did say something completely wrong. You've "heard" that Hamiti gets the best of Plott. I've seen that bandied about on a couple boards, but no that isn't true.

Hamiti IS a motherfugger for Plott to deal with, because he's so unique - but Plott beats him. The only persons handing out beatings in that room are the coaches. Jimmy smacks up everyone around his weight and DT obviously. Even Hendrickson isn't bulletproof. He makes a LOT of mistakes. Which is amazing for him, because he can't get away with them anymore like he did at Air Force.
 
Y’all have all the room in the world to cuss and discuss all the ridiculous stuff MALOS can dream up.
A Town, you’re a class act. I have been following this thread longer than most — before the Taylor era. I never made a comment until someone on here said how delusional I was for posting on the Iowa board that I am happy taking second as long as ISU and Okie State didn’t pass Iowa up. That could not be further from the truth.

I will not be causing trouble on the board regardless of what Chase Pollard — I guess he will have to be wrong twice — with this and that Hamiti is the best wrestler on the team.

BTW, I think Caliendo is the best wrestler on the Iowa team — I feel he is better than Buchanan who has better accolades. Both transfers. I call it how I see it.
 
I'm here for it. @MALOS - you get your very own thread on a rival's board! Applaud yourself.

Now. You did say something completely wrong. You've "heard" that Hamiti gets the best of Plott. I've seen that bandied about on a couple boards, but no that isn't true.

Hamiti IS a motherfugger for Plott to deal with, because he's so unique - but Plott beats him. The only persons handing out beatings in that room are the coaches. Jimmy smacks up everyone around his weight and DT obviously. Even Hendrickson isn't bulletproof. He makes a LOT of mistakes. Which is amazing for him, because he can't get away with them anymore like he did at Air Force.
Let me guess one of your old Iowa teammates told you about what goes on in the Oklahoma st room 😂😂
 
Let me guess one of your old Iowa teammates told you about what goes on in the Oklahoma st room 😂😂
I assume this is directed at vhsalum who lied about wrestling for Iowa. I actually supported him over on the Hawkeye board so it shows how desperate he is for attention.

And, even though I never claimed to wrestle for Iowa — I have heard from a friend’s son in the room that Hamiti gets the best of Plott (although smaller).

I love being the villain for saying “I believe” one of their wrestlers is better than another. I believe Hamiti is very dynamic and can score from anywhere. He is my favorite wrestler in the country regardless of team and I have never even met the kid. Personally, I think Plott is one dimensional and hopefully, Taylor can get him to open up. He reminds me of Warner — great wrestler but one dimensional. Warner is a rider and that’s really all he’s got. Love the kid but it doesn’t change the facts.
 
I assume this is directed at vhsalum who lied about wrestling for Iowa. I actually supported him over on the Hawkeye board so it shows how desperate he is for attention.

And, even though I never claimed to wrestle for Iowa — I have heard from a friend’s son in the room that Hamiti gets the best of Plott (although smaller).

I love being the villain for saying “I believe” one of their wrestlers is better than another. I believe Hamiti is very dynamic and can score from anywhere. He is my favorite wrestler in the country regardless of team and I have never even met the kid. Personally, I think Plott is one dimensional and hopefully, Taylor can get him to open up. He reminds me of Warner — great wrestler but one dimensional. Warner is a rider and that’s really all he’s got. Love the kid but it doesn’t change the facts.

LOL. Desperate for attention because I refute what you've heard?

Feel free to ask @AtownPoke - I have great sources for okiest wrestling. I used to for Iowa, but hey, people come and go.
 
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We need a nutty villain here to make things interesting. We now have that in Malos

I assume this is directed at vhsalum who lied about wrestling for Iowa. I actually supported him over on the Hawkeye board so it shows how desperate he is for attention.

And, even though I never claimed to wrestle for Iowa — I have heard from a friend’s son in the room that Hamiti gets the best of Plott (although smaller).

I love being the villain for saying “I believe” one of their wrestlers is better than another. I believe Hamiti is very dynamic and can score from anywhere. He is my favorite wrestler in the country regardless of team and I have never even met the kid. Personally, I think Plott is one dimensional and hopefully, Taylor can get him to open up. He reminds me of Warner — great wrestler but one dimensional. Warner is a rider and that’s really all he’s got. Love the kid but it doesn’t change the facts.
Im not kidding when I say I like your opinions on here. This doesn’t need to be an echo chamber. I just want it to be put out there in a way that isn’t troll bait. I think we’re on the same page now though so here’s to smooth sailing
 
LOL. Desperate for attention because I refute what you've heard?

Feel free to ask @AtownPoke - I have great sources for okiest wrestling. I used to for Iowa, but hey, people come and go.
So, what do your sources say about when Hamiti showed up and wrestled Plott to 100? Let’s see how good your sources are.
 
So, what do your sources say about when Hamiti showed up and wrestled Plott to 100? Let’s see how good your sources are.

LOLOLOLOL

Ok. So yeah. i know exactly what you're talking about. This story has been mis-told on a few boards.

This was after a particular incident that set DT and the coaching staff off. Wanted to make sure everyone was there for the right reasons, and what had been a relatively "less live" practice structure got switched up IMMEDIATELY.

So first of all - it was first to 50. And Plott and Hamiti were the last ones left. And they didn't get to 50. It was back and forth and even. Which set Plott off considering he's the bigger guy. They never finished the go.
 
A Town, you’re a class act. I have been following this thread longer than most — before the Taylor era. I never made a comment until someone on here said how delusional I was for posting on the Iowa board that I am happy taking second as long as ISU and Okie State didn’t pass Iowa up. That could not be further from the truth.

I will not be causing trouble on the board regardless of what Chase Pollard — I guess he will have to be wrong twice — with this and that Hamiti is the best wrestler on the team.

BTW, I think Caliendo is the best wrestler on the Iowa team — I feel he is better than Buchanan who has better accolades. Both transfers. I call it how I see it.
I can get with this type of discussion! I don't mind being wrong, in these two cases, it benefits my wants if I am.

1. If Hamiti is better than Plott and makes the finals, OSU is the much more ahead of Iowa in March.
2. I've wanted this board more active for a decade, that's happening and you being valuable discussion partner, with a little bit of snarky with no blow-ups helps that!

BTW, I don't think Buchanan is that great either, but he does profit!
 
Moved all the non HS recruiting talk about Plott and Dean over here
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Hamiti was over 190 last summer and went 165 the cut took a toll on him . He's definitely a match up issue for Plott. When he first arrived he was getting the best of Plott. They now go back and forth. Hamiti will definitely be much improved this year at 174.
 
Hamiti is so dynamic and can score from anywhere. Plott has to attack the right leg — single or high crotch. I feel Hamiti has a lot more potential although he is at a much tougher weight.

As for making the finals barring injuries — I think Hamiti has the best chances followed by Spratley. Call me crazy but Spratley can go 0-2 at Nationals or make the Finals — there is so much parity at 125 that anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Hopefully, Spratley shows up.

You see, as long as Okie State loses to Iowa but beats the hell out of Iowa State — I am a fan.
 
It’s funny you’ve been humiliated on the Hawkeye board for lying and now you need to come over here for support.

Foca has been Plott in college if that counts as a data point.
SO JUICY! Peak internet drama in the best way. I have no idea if it's still going on but I followed it for a week or so and it was pretty funny.
 
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Hamiti is so dynamic and can score from anywhere. Plott has to attack the right leg — single or high crotch. I feel Hamiti has a lot more potential although he is at a much tougher weight.

As for making the finals barring injuries — I think Hamiti has the best chances followed by Spratley. Call me crazy but Spratley can go 0-2 at Nationals or make the Finals — there is so much parity at 125 that anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Hopefully, Spratley shows up.

You see, as long as Okie State loses to Iowa but beats the hell out of Iowa State — I am a fan.
125 is such an odd weight. Noto will be back at 125 soon
 
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LOLOLOLOL

Ok. So yeah. i know exactly what you're talking about. This story has been mis-told on a few boards.

This was after a particular incident that set DT and the coaching staff off. Wanted to make sure everyone was there for the right reasons, and what had been a relatively "less live" practice structure got switched up IMMEDIATELY.

So first of all - it was first to 50. And Plott and Hamiti were the last ones left. And they didn't get to 50. It was back and forth and even. Which set Plott off considering he's the bigger guy. They never finished the go.
Reminds me of the time early in the Cael era at PSU when he was pissed that guys were having trouble getting out from bottom. So one time practice didn't end until every starter could get out from bottom. Quentin Wright took 45 minutes to get out from bottom. I think he was wrestling Matt Brown.
 
A Town, you’re a class act. I have been following this thread longer than most — before the Taylor era. I never made a comment until someone on here said how delusional I was for posting on the Iowa board that I am happy taking second as long as ISU and Okie State didn’t pass Iowa up. That could not be further from the truth.

I will not be causing trouble on the board regardless of what Chase Pollard — I guess he will have to be wrong twice — with this and that Hamiti is the best wrestler on the team.

BTW, I think Caliendo is the best wrestler on the Iowa team — I feel he is better than Buchanan who has better accolades. Both transfers. I call it how I see it.
That was my post, however I did not say you were delusional. People over there thought I was trolling, but I really was not at all. Was just trying to figure out what it was your meant, because the way I took it was you would rather just hold onto 2nd place than get to 1st. Both posts copied and pasted below. But it is all good. I am glad that you did not mean what I thought you did. You did get your wish of him ending up at Penn State though!

That’s okay. We knew we were not getting him.

Let’s get:

1. Bassett
2. Raneys
3. Ross/Mocco

We get these 4 and we will making a statement.

Also, rather see him go to Penn State because we know what we are chasing. Would hate to see him go to Okie State or worse, Iowa State. They are on our heels.
I do not post here often at all. But I read a lot of the posts, just because I love the sport so much. This has got to be one of the most depressing posts I have ever seen.

So, you are saying you would rather Blaze go to Penn State instead of OK State or Iowa State? And the reasoning for this is because OK State and Iowa State may be closing the gap on your team in 2nd place, and you do not want to lose 2nd place. So, you would prefer he go to Penn State, who is the best in the nation, because you are not going to catch them anyways? So, you are ok with and settling for the 2nd place trophy? Did I get this right, if not correct me if I am wrong.

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That was my post, however I did not say you were delusional. People over there thought I was trolling, but I really was not at all. Was just trying to figure out what it was your meant, because the way I took it was you would rather just hold onto 2nd place than get to 1st. Both posts copied and pasted below. But it is all good. I am glad that you did not mean what I thought you did. You did get your wish of him ending up at Penn State though!


I do not post here often at all. But I read a lot of the posts, just because I love the sport so much. This has got to be one of the most depressing posts I have ever seen.

So, you are saying you would rather Blaze go to Penn State instead of OK State or Iowa State? And the reasoning for this is because OK State and Iowa State may be closing the gap on your team in 2nd place, and you do not want to lose 2nd place. So, you would prefer he go to Penn State, who is the best in the nation, because you are not going to catch them anyways? So, you are ok with and settling for the 2nd place trophy? Did I get this right, if not correct me if I am wrong.

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That’s not what I am saying — let him go to Penn State because it’s easier to see what’s in front of you than what’s behind you. Penn State has a log jam and they really can’t get too much better — we know the benchmark and what to shoot for. Blaze to Penn State is a given and we can plan for that. Rather have to chase 1 team than 2 or 3. At no point did I say I would settle for a 2nd place trophy — that’s your slant on something I never said.

I also said I would rather have 2 Raneys than 1 Blaze because they can score more points combined than 1 Blaze. That point alone should explain it all
 
I also said I would rather have 2 Raneys than 1 Blaze because they can score more points combined than 1 Blaze. That point alone should explain it all
I'm not 100% certain that will be true due to the Raney injury. Jury is still out on that.
 
That’s not what I am saying — let him go to Penn State because it’s easier to see what’s in front of you than what’s behind you. Penn State has a log jam and they really can’t get too much better — we know the benchmark and what to shoot for. Blaze to Penn State is a given and we can plan for that. Rather have to chase 1 team than 2 or 3. At no point did I say I would settle for a 2nd place trophy — that’s your slant on something I never said.

I also said I would rather have 2 Raneys than 1 Blaze because they can score more points combined than 1 Blaze. That point alone should explain it all
My slant? Haha! No slant at all. If you read my post again, it was all questions, trying to understand what it was you meant. So sensitive!
 
My slant? Haha! No slant at all. If you read my post again, it was all questions, trying to understand what it was you meant. So sensitive!
Me, sensitive. You’re the one offended that I used the word “slant.” Which is was — go read your original post where you ran over projecting what you “thought” I meant. You should have asked your questions before your post — not afterwards. 😘
 
DT would be coach of the year, for sure
Now, I’m not dissing on Plot, let me be clear. He lost pretty sound to Keck last year and Carter is a phenomenal wrestler. I do think Plott can win, and wrestling with one of the best wrestlers in the world, giving him pointers etc. every day, would make DT eligible for coach of the year. Heck, if we beat Hawkeyes this year, DT deserves coach of the year. As we sit now, it’s most likely 3rd at nationals. Even that is a great job. This team is talking national championship 😳. If that happens, I will be the happiest cowboy in the world. Go pokes
 
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Now, I’m not dissing on Plot, let me be clear. He lost pretty sound to Keck last year and Carter is a phenomenal wrestler. I do think Plott can win, and wrestling with one of the best wrestlers in the world, giving him pointers etc. every day, would make DT eligible for coach of the year. Heck, if we beat Hawkeyes this year, DT deserves coach of the year. As we sit now, it’s most likely 3rd at nationals. Even that is a great job. This team is talking national championship 😳. If that happens, I will be the happiest cowboy in the world. Go pokes
Watch me get slammed for this but all of the wrestlers on this team were brought in before Taylor arrived — to include Hamiti, Amine, and Hendrickson. It will be hard to gauge how much better he makes me this team. This team and any accolades it gets should give props to Smith, Caldwell and Perry. To me, next year is Taylor’s real test. I know I just opened the flood gates with shots fired
 
Me, sensitive. You’re the one offended that I used the word “slant.” Which is was — go read your original post where you ran over projecting what you “thought” I meant. You should have asked your questions before your post — not afterwards. 😘
Who is offended over the word slant? Again, that was a question as to how did I "Slant" anything. And look at my original post. The sentences ended with question marks, which would make them questions. I asked for some clarification on what you meant. Nothing to get your panties in a bunch about! It's all good man!

Damn, maybe I shouldn't have stuck up for this guy, making me think that @chasepollard was correct about this guy.
 
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Watch me get slammed for this but all of the wrestlers on this team were brought in before Taylor arrived — to include Hamiti, Amine, and Hendrickson. It will be hard to gauge how much better he makes me this team. This team and any accolades it gets should give props to Smith, Caldwell and Perry. To me, next year is Taylor’s real test. I know I just opened the flood gates with shots fired
Not wrong, but remove Smith and insert Coleman.
 
Watch me get slammed for this but all of the wrestlers on this team were brought in before Taylor arrived — to include Hamiti, Amine, and Hendrickson. It will be hard to gauge how much better he makes me this team. This team and any accolades it gets should give props to Smith, Caldwell and Perry. To me, next year is Taylor’s real test. I know I just opened the flood gates with shots fired
I am pretty sure you are right about the transfers coming in before DT arrived. What has been pretty impressive is what DT has done with recruiting since getting to OK State. He has brought in some solid recruits, a few flipping their commitments from other schools to come to be coached by him.
 
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Watch me get slammed for this but all of the wrestlers on this team were brought in before Taylor arrived — to include Hamiti, Amine, and Hendrickson. It will be hard to gauge how much better he makes me this team. This team and any accolades it gets should give props to Smith, Caldwell and Perry. To me, next year is Taylor’s real test. I know I just opened the flood gates with shots fired
You're right on the transfers and how they'll contribute to the team. John and his staff did a great job bringing in those guys last year. What I'm most interested in is if our young guys can jump a level and if we can show up at NCAA'S and not look like the walking wounded that seemed to happen more often than not in the past.
 
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