They're the same as Democrats.http://reason.com/archives/2017/08/03/oops-republicans-did-it-again
Good Reasons To Hate Republicans
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We're in too deep for anything to change. Soon we'll be known as the United Socialist States of America. Politicians will be protected from the common man. I'm beginning to despise both parties.
What we need is rebellion.
What we need is rebellion.
it's not too late but we do need to protect the american right to elect our own leadership and stop allowing this coup to take place.
trump's biggest crime is that he's broken the 4th wall and we are getting glimpses of how the sausage really gets made. no real difference in most of our rulers.
trump's biggest crime is that he's broken the 4th wall and we are getting glimpses of how the sausage really gets made. no real difference in most of our rulers.
Oh hogwash. The gap is closing on some economic issues but abortion, consumer rights, weed, foreign policy, labor, environment... huge issues with big, consistent differnces for years. Religion. Gay rights. List goes on and on.
dem elite and repub elite seem quite copacetic on the things you've listed if you are mentally curious enough to watch the things they do rather than believe what they say.
Oh, really? Now that the Republicans have complete control, please show me where they have outlawed abortion, restricted consumer rights, changed anything on drug laws, altered foreign policy away from endless war, hampered labor, outlawed "gay rights." The only real difference between the two is a conflict over "environmental protection." I have no idea what you mean by "Religion." I think you have been hoodwinked into listening to Republican rhetoric rather than watching what they actually do. As a true blue liberal you seem to equate Republican with Conservative. The establishment Republican Party is as far removed from your dreaded conservatism as the Democrats.
Well...Sessions has stated they are going to start vigorouslh enforcing federal marijuana possession laws even in states where it is legal under state law....effectively rescinding the Dem's announcement that they weren't going to focus on such enforcement efforts in "legal states".
So there is that.
Off the top of my head and in no particular order. Plenty of reasons below.
Turds who would make every porcelain bus beam with joy!
1. They can't outlaw abortion, it's a supreme court issue. Multiple republican states have attempted to do it, planned parenthood defunding, appointing anti-abortion judges to the federal bench... wtf else can they do?? They have literally attacked abortion at every level of government, every way they can, and violated the constitution to do it. "Outlaw abortion." As if Congress is going to vote, the POTUS sign it and that's that? That's what you think they've failed to do?
2. Restricted consumer rights. CAFA, Judicial appointees upholding every pro-big business provision in adhesion contracts, dems create consumer protection bureau and rep's try to dismantle it, investment advisor/stock broker fiduciary obligations to the consumer alone. That was already done by Biff. Just opened up investors to self dealing of investment houses again. That's like... with two seconds of reflection.
3. Obama formally ended justice dept enforcement of weed laws in states where the states don't want it. How can you ignore that? Cory Booker just introduced a bill to legalize it across the country. You have a republican congress so it should sail through, right?
4. gay rights -- again, you've asked if someone "outlawed gay rights" --what does that even mean? In oklahoma republicans put gay marriage on the ballot to drive cons to the polls to vote against it. It worked. Liberal states pushed it. Virtually all republicans were against it. Conservative politicians ran against it for years. Is there some early groundswell of republican support for it that I'm against? Republicans have posted for years on here about some bakery that had to serve a lesbian couple. How can you ignore gay marriage? It's been a huge issue that has recently finally resolved, and it was an issue pushed by the left and opposed by the right for years. Look at trannie issues now.
I think you've bit off on a narrative that you heard from someone. Honest question -- did you hear this "there's no difference" narrative somewhere? If so, who?
Darned right. It IS conservatism incarnate. It is conservatism in action. It's like a communist saying Mao and USSR weren't communist -- maybe not on some level, but they're communist in execution and reality.
This is the definition of conservatism:
holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.
synonyms: traditionalist, traditional, conventional, orthodox, old-fashioned, dyed-in-the-wool, hidebound, unadventurous, set in one's ways; More
antonyms: radical
I'm not sure what else you expect from an ideology that is based on "Don't change, leave my shit alone and I'm not forced to contribute." What do you expect from such an ideology? It's regressive by definition. It's third world.
The fracturing of conservatism we're seeing now was inevitable. What has conservatism done that anybody is proud of in the last 30 years? The pro-big business, anti-opportunity, pro-corporate, pro-religion, anti-change ethos was bound to fail and collapse. Also, the "that wasn't conservatism" mantra is predictable when it fails and the repackaging commences. That's what we're seeing, Dan. My suggetion is to walk away and come back home -- the democrat party is a big, fractious, diverse, unorganized, eff'd up party that just kind of reflects America.
Oh, the irony. I post an article titled "Good Reasons to Hate Republicans," and get accused of being a Republican apologist. I'll try to explain this to you one more time, then I officially give up and accept that you're going to hear what you want to hear no matter what is said. I am decidedly NOT a Republican, and even more so I am NOT a conservative. I am an advocate for individual liberty, which put me four square in the anarchist category, full fledged libertarian. As such I despise both statist categories, liberals and conservatives. Statists are intent on imposing their views on all of society, at the end of a law enforcer's gun, if necessary. Neither side of the statist equation is deserving of support or respect. They have earned all the enmity a free individual can muster. Two sides of the same evil coin. To a libertarian there is no difference between left and right. They both seek the power to rule over us. They are both philosophically immoral. If you want to argue with me on those terms, please do so. But for the love of God please quit calling me a Republican/Consevative.
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Well, I'll call a man by whatever name he wants, but saying that we need less government and more individual freedom is exactly what conservatives have been saying.
But if you wanna be called anarchist.... I'll call you an anarchist. Sounds like a disrespectful term to me, but okay.
you want less individual freedom? wanting more makes him a republican? do congressional republicans want more personal freedoms?
i don't think you've thought this through very well. it's not a well defined position.
Call me what you want. What I am asking is for you to cease using anti-conservative screeds when you are debating me. For the most part I agree with your anti-conservative diatribes. Show me your reasoning for advocating infringements on liberty. Show me your philosophical justifications for wanting to force your attitudes (at the point of a gun) on the half of the population that differs from your viewpoint. Just ranting against Republicans/Consevatives are infantile, and, frankly, show a lack of intellectual thought, just espousing the talking points you've received from the captains of your team. That is beneath you.
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