Times change. Along with them, rules and laws change accordingly.
Those laws that change still must pass constitutional muster.
Times change. Along with them, rules and laws change accordingly.
Social media, media coverage, news cycle... IMO.I have a simple question for the control advocates. 20 years ago, this problem didn't exist.....full stop. 20 years ago gun ownership was equal to what it was today (percentage of households) And don't tell me its about the magazine size, as guns 20 years ago carried clips of 8-10 rounds per clip (both rifles and hand guns). I know, I owned them 20 years ago
So 20 years ago, the problem simply wasn't there and today it is.....yet all of a sudden it is only about the guns? It makes no sense.
It is about the digital age, and video game violence. It is about lack of parenting. It is about lack of discipline in schools. It is about a whole lot of things before you get WAY down the list to gun access.
Make it mandatory for 2 years of Military service for every child turning 18 and graduating high school. Put discipline back in schools. Hold parents accountable. REALLY accountable. Add early education about avoiding the unthinkable. Brain wash the kids with bombardment of information about the evils of violence. But to simply blame guns blindly and making "hope a strategy" is the dumbest thing we could possibly do.
20 years ago it was OK to bring a box cutter on an airplane. Times change. Along with them, rules and laws change accordingly.
Great coach and former player. Horrible politician and constitutional scholar.
You are avoiding my point. If guns are same in 20 years, yet school shootings happen now but didn't then, explain simply how guns are the problem and explain where the focus on fixing the problem should be if you admit guns haven't changed but people have
I answered this specifically in a previous post with specifics.
Make it mandatory for 2 years of Military service for every child turning 18 and graduating high school. Put discipline back in schools. Hold parents accountable. REALLY accountable. Add early education about avoiding the unthinkable. Brain wash the kids with bombardment of information about the evils of violence. But to simply blame guns blindly and making "hope a strategy" is the dumbest thing we could possibly do.
I could take any of my hunting rifles or sidearms and do everything that idiot did in Florida....and probably more.
Well said.Actually, the more I think about it, the more I like your analogy of how things have changed post 9-11 vis a vi' box cutters.
Know what changed? Security at every airport in the world. Security at every State and Federal building in the US, inclusive of Xray scanners and armed guards everywhere. An entire brand new Federal department now with thousands and thousands of people dedicated to keeping us safe 24/7. Know what didn't change? They didn't come to my house to get my box cutters.
Yet, the gun control people wouldn't think of PREVENTING anyone from entering a school with a gun by the use of surveillance, tight security and tight control over anyone entering the property through aiport type screening (exactly like an airport or any Federal Building). No instead of stopping me from entering the school armed, they want to come to my house to get the box cutter......as if that will stop anything. It won't and everyone knows it.
An AR 15 is a hunting rifle with a pistol grip.Why didn't he use a hunting rifle or sidearm?
How about the LV shooter?
Orlando shooter?
Sandy Hook?
and on and on and on.
They used a AR-15 because it is easy to get, affordable and more efficient at killing.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I like your analogy of how things have changed post 9-11 vis a vi' box cutters.
Know what changed? Security at every airport in the world. Security at every State and Federal building in the US, inclusive of Xray scanners and armed guards everywhere. An entire brand new Federal department now with thousands and thousands of people dedicated to keeping us safe 24/7. Know what didn't change? They didn't come to my house to get my box cutters.
Yet, the gun control people wouldn't think of PREVENTING anyone from entering a school with a gun by the use of surveillance, tight security and tight control over anyone entering the property through aiport type screening (exactly like an airport or any Federal Building). No instead of stopping me from entering the school armed, they want to come to my house to get the box cutter......as if that will stop anything. It won't and everyone knows it.
How would you make them more difficult to acquire?Doing the things you propose, and making semi-automatic weapons more difficult to acquire are not mutually exclusive. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Do you think Cruz would have used an AR-15 if it was illegal to sell one to a 19 year old? I don't.
What if he had to pay a 1000 dollar tax at the time of purchase? Probably not since he was a cashier at a Dollar General store.
It is not more efficient at killing. Full Stop. I can fit 6 clips to my traditional rifles in my front and back pockets of my blue jeans. That is 60 rounds with the same "speed" as an AR15 (i.e., one trigger pull, one round).
How would you make them more difficult to acquire?
Doing the things you propose, and making semi-automatic weapons more difficult to acquire are not mutually exclusive. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Do you think Cruz would have used an AR-15 if it was illegal to sell one to a 19 year old? I don't.
What if he had to pay a 1000 dollar tax at the time of purchase? Probably not since he was a cashier at a Dollar General store.
That’s it? I assumed you had something better than that.Can you not read? It is in the post you quoted.
If you want me to I can name over 100 gun models that predate the M-16--->M-4---->AR15 style guns.....All used for hunting.......that can do what happened at Sandy Hook and Florida...AND MORE. Do you think an idiot like Cruz is going to give up because one of 150 options has been taken off the market?
Pretty naive assumption
That’s it? I assumed you had something better than that.
But, I'd be satisfied if they were heavily taxed, not legally sold to people under the age of 21, and required a waiting period between purchase and pick up. If you really want/need one, you would still be able to get it.
and required a waiting period between purchase and pick up..
I can live with a waiting period.I'm not asking for much.
Why?Reading this thread for the last few days, I just have to say one thing. I am truly sorry if I have ever upset, angered or offended any of you well armed citizens.
Tell that to the battered wife trying to get away from her abusive husband. How long should she be required to wait before being able to defend herself?
I prefer to use stats. http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/domviol/facts.htmHow many examples of battered wives who defended themselves with a gun, that the wife went out and purchased, can you come up with?
So, I'd imagine that many of them would look to purchase a firearm as protection. Even if that is only 1%, then you are looking at 30,000. 1 tenth of 1 percent would still be 3,000. More than are killed in mass shooting events per year.
I don't know anyone who had a dog with cancer and spend thousands on treatment. But I know it happens.How many examples of battered wives who defended themselves with a gun, that the wife went out and purchased, can you come up with?
I don't know anyone who had a dog with cancer and spend thousands on treatment. But I know it happens.
If I don't personally know them, do they not count?
Sleeping with the Enemyhttp://www.cvillevet.com/kayas-blog.pml
https://www.rover.com/blog/radiation-treatments-dog-true-story/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...terrier-chemotherapy-surgery-success-far.html
Since you asked, I found 3 examples to support your educated guess that people spend thousands of dollars on cancer treatment for their pets. Took me about 1 minute to help you out. Since it was so easy to find these examples, I think it supports your contention that it is fairly commonplace.
I have a simple question for the control advocates. 20 years ago, this problem didn't exist.....full stop. 20 years ago gun ownership was equal to what it was today (percentage of households) And don't tell me its about the magazine size, as guns 20 years ago carried clips of 8-10 rounds per clip (both rifles and hand guns). I know, I owned them 20 years ago
So 20 years ago, the problem simply wasn't there and today it is.....yet all of a sudden it is only about the guns? It makes no sense.
It is about the digital age, and video game violence. It is about lack of parenting. It is about lack of discipline in schools. It is about a whole lot of things before you get WAY down the list to gun access.
Make it mandatory for 2 years of Military service for every child turning 18 and graduating high school. Put discipline back in schools. Hold parents accountable. REALLY accountable. Add early education about avoiding the unthinkable. Brain wash the kids with bombardment of information about the evils of violence. But to simply blame guns blindly and making "hope a strategy" is the dumbest thing we could possibly do.