Aaaand this time the senseless shooting was on camera.
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Any comments on the notably higher number of gun suicides in the states with lots of guns?
Countries in Europe don't have what you described as a third world country next door. Take every gun in the US and nuke them in one pile. And guess what. The Mexican cartels will be right there to step up and supply the criminals all they want.
And according to the statistics you like to refer to, if you take guns away from all black people including the bad ones, gun crime will be cut in half. Not racist, just the facts syskatine.
And according to the statistics you like to refer to, if you take guns away from all black people including the bad ones, gun crime will be cut in half. Not racist, just the facts syskatine.
How many of those were in liberal democracies?
Back of the envelope conservative guess: 100 heart disease deaths per year per 100,000 X 3 Billion people X 100 years = 300 million heart disease deaths.
Take that Stalin.
If syssy had any reply to this other then ban guns I would be shocked. Like others posted with Mexico down south criminals will still get guns and people who intend to break laws will find away to get a firearm illegally.
Also I bet the UN wants an unarmed America makes it easier to control the citizens and easier to invade if need be. As soon as Americans are unarmed the attacks from terrorist will increase also because the citizens will have no way to defend themselves. Also count me as super paranoid but I don't like the idea of rely on a government to protect me. Man is to evil to just give the benefit of doubt.
Sys if you are so against guns why do own them then? Will you be willing to hand all your guns over to Big Brother when they ask for them?
No, not racist at all, is it @Medic007 ? The "I'm not racist, but...." line has become a national punchline.
I just figured out what pisses me off so much about the gun control issue. As is, a total fvcking loser has the ability to randomly just end someone's life if it's really easy, just squeeze a trigger.... and they do, quite frequently. Some loser walks in and destroys great lives -- in this case, two productive, likable, smart people were up early, being productive, working on their career and some loser walks up and shoots them. Most of these losers don't do it another way - take away the guns and they literally don't have the ingenuity to destroy as effectively.
The people that tend to defend the loser's access to guns really make sure their fellow losers can take a gun and kill their betters. I think that's what is so unsettling to me about it -- we empower losers to very easily destroy and impose pain on dozens of people with a trigger pull. It's like there's a subconscious desire from losers to defend their fellow losers' ability to wreak carnage and grief on more successful people. Nobody on here is changing their mind, but I'm glad I'm not the one that is enabling total losers to go ruin great people's lives. You guys are defending the loser's ability to destroy. You'll cloak it in some lofty second amendment argument, but the truth is,the ability of just some fvcking loser to shoot someone and be a big deal gives you a hard-on on some level. You sure defend their ability to do it.
The second amendment argument is tailor made for losers in life. I think the last people I can remember that really used violence to square things with the government, like you think the second amendment contemplates, was David Koresh and McVeigh. I'm sure they shared your view of second amendment rights. I have to work... praise God and pass the ammunition, two more great people killed by another violent loser.
I just figured out what pisses me off so much about the gun control issue. As is, a total fvcking loser has the ability to randomly just end someone's life if it's really easy, just squeeze a trigger.... and they do, quite frequently. Some loser walks in and destroys great lives -- in this case, two productive, likable, smart people were up early, being productive, working on their career and some loser walks up and shoots them. Most of these losers don't do it another way - take away the guns and they literally don't have the ingenuity to destroy as effectively.
The people that tend to defend the loser's access to guns really make sure their fellow losers can take a gun and kill their betters. I think that's what is so unsettling to me about it -- we empower losers to very easily destroy and impose pain on dozens of people with a trigger pull. It's like there's a subconscious desire from losers to defend their fellow losers' ability to wreak carnage and grief on more successful people. Nobody on here is changing their mind, but I'm glad I'm not the one that is enabling total losers to go ruin great people's lives. You guys are defending the loser's ability to destroy. You'll cloak it in some lofty second amendment argument, but the truth is,the ability of just some fvcking loser to shoot someone and be a big deal gives you a hard-on on some level. You sure defend their ability to do it.
The second amendment argument is tailor made for losers in life. I think the last people I can remember that really used violence to square things with the government, like you think the second amendment contemplates, was David Koresh and McVeigh. I'm sure they shared your view of second amendment rights. I have to work... praise God and pass the ammunition, two more great people killed by another violent loser.
Some how Romania manages to have one of the lowest firearm death rates in Europe despite having a long and porous border with Serbia the country in Europe with the highest firearm death rate. Also Serbia is more "third world" than Mexico.
Where do you think the cartels get their guns?
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Yeah, and the orcs would probably just blow right through the border if we take guns away.
Inky, I have in other threads, and I need to get to work, but the short version is I would allow civil liability for enablers of gun violence. If you have a gun, you're on the hook for whatever happens with it. If you sell it to someone and they do a columbine, you're on the hook. It basically extends strict liability (like if your tiger gets loose and kills someone -- you want a tiger, you own whatever it does in your neighborhood) I think the effect of allowing civil liability would be more effective at keeping guns out of wackos and criminals hands.
I knew you'd duck the statistic.
Sure -- they should be happy they don't have guns or it'd be 382% higher, if the data extrapolates to that culture.
You actually posted this stupid rant after declaring you own probably 2 dozen guns. Doesn't surprise me in the least by other idiotic stuff you've posted.
And no, the facts about black firearm related crime are not racist. You are a big part of the problem by trying to see it that way.
What is your solution besides peeing down your pant leg and being a blatant hypocrite?
Well, it's selective facts,Mr. I'm not a racist but I blame blacks. Have you checked for socioeconomic status, or just focused on race? I'm sure you cross-checked the data to make sure there weren't equally or even more compelling groups to isolate and blame. I suspect if you backed out middle class blacks and looked at poor, uneducated whites, you'd have some pretty compelling data, too. Did you check that, or just stop with "black?"
Guess she should've been packing heat. She probably had it coming, rabble rousing with that chamber of commerce piece....
'Murica, where everybody gits a gun! Yeehah!
You're a complete tool bag. Let's make political hay from a tragedy. The only thing I take solace in, when it comes to you, is knowing what a miserable existence you must live. No one can be this vapid and emotionally vacuous ... And be even one bit happy about their life.
So if I have my guns locked up in a gun safe (which I do) and some one breaks in and steals them then commits a crime then will they punish me? How far do I have to go to secure my guns? I am a very responsible gun owner and I think people need to take guns serious as they are a very powerful weapon that can end an life. What the loser did today is sick and wrong but your over reaction is nuts. So the fact I stand up for the Bill of Rights makes me a loser? I never once defended this nut job. You sir are the only loser here now get back to that elder law. I am sure there is some old lady out there you could hood wink.
I must have missed your condemnation of the people making political hay over the Kathryn Steinle murder.
I'm sorry ... Point me to the post that happened within minutes of Steinle's murder.
I question whether either of you have a soul. Say this was your son or daughter this morning. How would you feel about sys' post then?
When you view your political viewpoint, and winning an argument, more important than people, you should just perform a postpartum abortion and honestly ... I don't care if you use a gun, a rope or draino.
The problem in these killings is the narcissism of Americans. It is no longer ok to just kill yourself instead you have to take out a bunch of people and make the news so your name can live on infamy. Stop this and mass shootings will decrease.
About half way down the first page of this thread http://oklahomastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/trump.10599/ of course it wasn't obvious within minutes of her death that hay could be made, but once the opportunity revealed its self, people jumped.
I would probably be a lot more concerned about my daughters murder/murderer than how long people waited before making good faith suggestions for preventing further murders.
People were calling to to nuke the middle east before the towers even fell on 9/11, should they be aborted for not waiting long enough to make their political point?
I think people who use emotion over murder as an excuse for not discussing the prevention murders are despicable too. Abort yourself. I would prefer you use draino.
That stat was a response that ducked my question. Further, that stat came from a study by authors who have been widely criticized for selectively using stats to push an anti-gun agenda. Furthermore, I don't think that stat, if true, helps your argument. In fact, it hurts it. People who commit suicide are not innocent victims of gun violence.
@syskatine why am I a loser for defending the Bill of Rights which you seem to take advantage of being a gun owner? Either answer the question or shut up forever.
You're wrong about everything you wrote, including the bullshit sanctimony. You don't get to enable losers and crazies to decide who gets to live and die, and then whine whenever the predictable consequences of your enabling is pointed out. And if I was that girl's father, I would blame her shooter and the mouth breathing losers that enable people like him -- you, in case there's any ambiguity here -- to do it.
Jonny, buddy no offense but I have better things to do than explain obvious answers to someone that thinks we need guns to defend against the UN invading.
I, for one, rejoice anytime some one commits suicide, since they are not innocent.
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If that is all you have taken from my posting I see why you are such a dipshit. Keep owning them guns then telling us all how we are losers for defending our right to own them.
@syskatine I am still waiting on why it is ok for you to own guns but the rest of us are losers? Come on hot shot answer the question.
@syskatine I am still waiting on why it is ok for you to own guns but the rest of us are losers? Come on hot shot answer the question.
The reason its ok for me to own guns is because it's legal. The reason you're a loser is a combination of shitty genetics, ignorance, and lack of virtue.
The reason its ok for me to own guns is because it's legal. The reason you're a loser is a combination of shitty genetics, ignorance, and lack of virtue.
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I see it. It would be best if everyone kept it to the issue instead of making it about other posters from here on
translation: I am a pussy who is a big hypocrite. Do as I say but not as I do. I guarantee you I have far better credentials for owning a gun then you ever thought of. I have went through numerous training courses on firearm safety and how to shoot. You filled out a piece of paper.
No need to ban him. It didn't bother me in the slightest. If his opinion matter in the slightest to me then, maybe I would be sad he felt this way about me but it doesn't.
Nice deflection and once again completely ignoring the facts. Poor uneducated whites aren't increasing the statistic of black gun violence. At first I thought you seriously can't be this dense, but that position is waning.
According to the statistics you refer to, blacks commit a large percentage of gun crimes compared to their percentage of the population. Anybody you want to specifically blame besides those that are committing the crimes and creating the data?
Blacks accounted for 55% of gun homicides in 2010, but only accounted for 13% of the population. A 2013 study by two Yale sociologists found that 6% of a high-risk, high-crime black community in Chicago accounted for 70% of Chicago's gun related murders. Additionally, those within that 6% had a staggering 900% greater chance of being a victim of gun violence than an outsider.
So braniac, who do you think is killing blacks at this alarming rate? You can squirm, duck, and dodge all you'd like, but the facts are the facts and you can't spin at high enough RPM to make them otherwise.
You can shove the racism up your ass and digest it backwards.
