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20 gop holdouts in 2 yrs?

Ponca Dan said:
You’re so full of mush. The Squad roared into DC full of enthusiasm. AOC was in front of cameras every day, in that regard she even put Chuck Schumer to shame. She and her cohorts were there to fundamentally change politics in America for good. She was a proud socialist and wanted everybody to know it! At one point she announced her primary goal was to see Jeffries get bounced out of office and she was going to work tirelessly toward that end. Now she bows in obeisance to Jeffries as the new leader of her party that she voted for. Some radicals the Squad have become! It turns out they’ve never been what they said they are, just like you’ve never been anything but a centrist establishment who is incapable of defying your marching orders.

Here’s a prediction. The one goal that defines every progressive in America has been ratification of Medicare For All. They insist that polls say upwards of 70% of voters want Medicare For All. That’s one of the promises AOC and her ilk have made if they got elected. When they first got to town they talked about it constantly, complaining they couldn’t get it out of committee even though Democrats were in charge and even though there are supposed to be as many as 100 members who call themseves progressives. Then all the big talk stopped as the so-called progressives were quickly placed under Pelosi’s and the establishment’s thumbs. They've become meek little team members whose only use is to accuse Republicans of being racists. So here’s what I predict: now that Republicans are in control AOC’s establishment overlords will let her bring up MFA, submit a bill, get very public about it because they know it will only be for show. The Squad will use it as proof they’re card carrying progressives and will whine the GOP is thwarting the will of the people, hoping against hope that idiots like you will buy the ruse. Now they can pin the blame on Republicans they’ll once again be allowed by the establishment to get loud and active. And like a good little boy you’ll join in and spread the lie.
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If anything 2 Cents is a good boy to the leftist elitist.
 
Ponca Dan said:
The Republican radicals demanded the House be run the way it was originally intended and were villified from every direction. It took 15 times before McCarthy relented. I defy any person on this board to criticize any of the reforms. They’re reforms even a far leftist should embrace. These radicals are owed a debt of gratitude by the American people. Unlike the radical left wing progressives of the Democrat Party, these right-wing Radicals have shown the strength of resolve their voters expected. Gaetz was even physically assaulted by another Republican, yet held his ground. If only every politician had as much character!
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I to would like to see any of the leftist or for that matter anyone, argue against the reforms demanded by the so called radical Republicans.
 
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Alpha Woke said:
What the 20 won for us.

  1. As has been reported, it will only take a single congressperson, acting in what is known as a Jeffersonian Motion, to move to remove the Speaker if he or she goes back on their word or policy agenda.
  2. A “Church” style committee will be convened to look into the weaponization of the FBI and other government organizations(presumably the CIA, the subject of the original Church Committee) against the American people.
  3. Term limits will be put up for a vote.
  4. Bills presented to Congress will be single subject, not omnibus with all the attendant earmarks, and there will be a 72-hour minimum period to read them.
  5. The Texas Border Plan will be put before Congress. From The Hill: “The four-pronged plan aims to ‘Complete Physical Border Infrastructure,’ ‘Fix Border Enforcement Policies,’ ‘Enforce our Laws in the Interior’ and ‘Target Cartels & Criminal Organizations.'”
  6. COVID mandates will be ended as will all funding for them, including so-called “emergency funding.”
  7. Budget bills would stop the endless increases in the debt ceiling and hold the Senate accountable for the same.
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1. Which means that all it takes is for one of these crazy Republicans to act on this and we then return to the craziness we observed during the first four days of the Republican House. Where the people's business isn't getting done and governing is shoved to the side in favor of Republicans attacking each other.

This is a horrible parliamentary procedure. Paul Ryan was right when he tried to change it and Nancy Pelosi was right to change it.

2. A waste of time and not what a majority of Americans want the House focused on. This only appeals to the Republican base.

3. An action that would take power away from the American people to elect who they want to represent them. I have no issue though with Republicans putting this up for a vote but it won't become law.

4. No objection to a reading period if that is the true intent. Single subject bills though can be troublesome, and again, can be used by a radical few to impede the act of governing. We will have to see how the crazy Republicans use this in their attempts to burn everything down.

5. A bill that again, only appeals to the Republican base and isn't going to be signed into law without changes and a willingness to compromise with Democrats. Again though, I have no objection to Republicans in the House putting it up for a vote but it isn't going to solve anything. Of course, Republicans don't want to really solve this issue. They need it for a campaign issue in '24.

6. Will have to see what this actually means and what all they want to end. This probably though plays into the conspiracy theories that exist on the right regarding this issue, which of course, once again, appeals to the Republican base.

7. This will most likely be used by the crazies in their attempt to force a government shut down. Not in the interest of the people or seeking to govern. Just more of the burn it all down mentality.


Sorry, but the 20 didn't win much at all for the American people and those who want to see the House focus on what matters and govern. They did win a lot for the Republican base and those who share their burn-it-down mentality. So if that is the "us" you referred to, then you are correct.
 
2012Bearcat said:
I to would like to see any of the leftist or for that matter anyone, argue against the reforms demanded by the so called radical Republicans.
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The vast majority of what the crazies obtained is nothing but partisan fodder.

I thought though that you wanted to see both parties work together to solve the real problems facing our country? You know, bills passed with a super majority and the extremes on both sides being rejected. Compromise and all that. Change your mind now?

Yes, I know. You never really wanted any of that to begin with.
 
Ponca Dan said:
You’re so full of mush. The Squad roared into DC full of enthusiasm. AOC was in front of cameras every day, in that regard she even put Chuck Schumer to shame. She and her cohorts were there to fundamentally change politics in America for good. She was a proud socialist and wanted everybody to know it! At one point she announced her primary goal was to see Jeffries get bounced out of office and she was going to work tirelessly toward that end. Now she bows in obeisance to Jeffries as the new leader of her party that she voted for. Some radicals the Squad have become! It turns out they’ve never been what they said they are, just like you’ve never been anything but a centrist establishment who is incapable of defying your marching orders.

Here’s a prediction. The one goal that defines every progressive in America has been ratification of Medicare For All. They insist that polls say upwards of 70% of voters want Medicare For All. That’s one of the promises AOC and her ilk have made if they got elected. When they first got to town they talked about it constantly, complaining they couldn’t get it out of committee even though Democrats were in charge and even though there are supposed to be as many as 100 members who call themseves progressives. Then all the big talk stopped as the so-called progressives were quickly placed under Pelosi’s and the establishment’s thumbs. They've become meek little team members whose only use is to accuse Republicans of being racists. So here’s what I predict: now that Republicans are in control AOC’s establishment overlords will let her bring up MFA, submit a bill, get very public about it because they know it will only be for show. The Squad will use it as proof they’re card carrying progressives and will whine the GOP is thwarting the will of the people, hoping against hope that idiots like you will buy the ruse. Now they can pin the blame on Republicans they’ll once again be allowed by the establishment to get loud and active. And like a good little boy you’ll join in and spread the lie.
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I understand you want the Democrats to be as divided as the Republicans are. I understand your partisan frustration and worry. Democratic progressives are getting things done, along with other Democrats, and this drives you nuts.

But I'm sorry, we progressives have no desire to give you and other right-wingers crazies what you want. Rant all you want but you aren't going to change it. Democrats are united against your burn-it-down mentality and united against the extremism on display from Republicans. On message as we prepare for the '24 election.

You can take soms solace I guess in the fact that we still have almost two years before the next election. Plenty of time for Democrats to get thrown off message. However, you are going to need a lot of change to occur in the Republican Party before that happens.
 
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my_2cents said:
I understand you want the Democrats to be as divided as the Republicans are. I understand your partisan frustration and worry. Democratic progressives are getting things done, along with other Democrats, and this drives you nuts.

But I'm sorry, we progressives have no desire to give you and other right-wingers crazies what you want. Rant all you want but you aren't going to change it. Democrats are united against your burn-it-down mentality and united against the extremism on display from Republicans. On message as we prepare for the '24 election.

You can take soms solace I guess in the fact that we still have almost two years before the next election. Plenty of time for Democrats to get thrown of message. However, you are going to need a lot of change to occur in the Republican Party before that happens.
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Well, of course no “ranting” from me is going to magically give progressives in Congress a backbone. They’re not progressives, they’re moderately liberal con artists posing as progressives. They never had a backbone in the first place. They wilted under the almighty establishment, the same establishment they were elected to combat, in record time without firing a shot. It just proves they engage in flim-flam and you gobble it up like the Democrat peasant you are.
 
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Ponca Dan said:
Well, of course no “ranting” from me is going to magically give progressives in Congress a backbone. They’re not progressives, they’re moderately liberal con artists posing as progressives.
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It continues to be hilarious watching you try to tell progressives they aren't really progressives. Until legislation is passed that you don't like, and then you come up with a contradictory rant about how progressives and leftists are destroying the country.🤣🤣

The struggle is real for you right now.
 
my_2cents said:
It continues to be hilarious watching you try to tell progressives they aren't really progressives. Until legislation is passed that you don't like, and then you come up with a contradictory rant about how progressives and leftists are destroying the country.🤣🤣

The struggle is real for you right now.
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Someone is struggling and it ain't Dan. 😂
 
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my_2cents said:
1. Which means that all it takes is for one of these crazy Republicans to act on this and we then return to the craziness we observed during the first four days of the Republican House. Where the people's business isn't getting done and governing is shoved to the side in favor of Republicans attacking each other.

This is a horrible parliamentary procedure. Paul Ryan was right when he tried to change it and Nancy Pelosi was right to change it.

2. A waste of time and not what a majority of Americans want the House focused on. This only appeals to the Republican base.

3. An action that would take power away from the American people to elect who they want to represent them. I have no issue though with Republicans putting this up for a vote but it won't become law.

4. No objection to a reading period if that is the true intent. Single subject bills though can be troublesome, and again, can be used by a radical few to impede the act of governing. We will have to see how the crazy Republicans use this in their attempts to burn everything down.

5. A bill that again, only appeals to the Republican base and isn't going to be signed into law without changes and a willingness to compromise with Democrats. Again though, I have no objection to Republicans in the House putting it up for a vote but it isn't going to solve anything. Of course, Republicans don't want to really solve this issue. They need it for a campaign issue in '24.

6. Will have to see what this actually means and what all they want to end. This probably though plays into the conspiracy theories that exist on the right regarding this issue, which of course, once again, appeals to the Republican base.

7. This will most likely be used by the crazies in their attempt to force a government shut down. Not in the interest of the people or seeking to govern. Just more of the burn it all down mentality.


Sorry, but the 20 didn't win much at all for the American people and those who want to see the House focus on what matters and govern. They did win a lot for the Republican base and those who share their burn-it-down mentality. So if that is the "us" you referred to, then you are correct.
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Huh?
 
Alpha Woke said:
Huh?
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lol.

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my_2cents said:
lol.

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O crap, you were being serious.

So funny.

You are simple enough to think your political party is better than the other universally.

You have to remove thought to get where you are.

Goebbels woulda had you rounding up Jews in a heartbeat.
 
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my_2cents said:
It continues to be hilarious watching you try to tell progressives they aren't really progressives. Until legislation is passed that you don't like, and then you come up with a contradictory rant about how progressives and leftists are destroying the country.🤣🤣

The struggle is real for you right now.
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I’m the furthest thing from being a progressive, I am against virtually everything they are for. The beloved Squad was elected to bring change to DC. They compromised from the very beginning. Calling yourself a progressive does not make you one. You either believe in it and work tirelessly toward it, or you don’t. And if you don’t, or if you support someone who doesn’t, then you aren’t a progressive. You bring shame on the very notion. But, of course, you feel no shame because you really have no guiding principle beyond swallowing every authoritarian measure the establishment spoon feeds you.
 
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Alpha Woke said:
Goebbels woulda had you rounding up Jews in a heartbeat.
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Wait a minute, didn't you just start a thread about those who make these types of comments? Simpletons and all that.🤣🤣

btw, nice nonresponse to my post. Could you not find any more help from The Epoch Times?
 
my_2cents said:
Wait a minute, didn't you just start a thread about those who make these types of comments? Simpletons and all that.🤣🤣

btw, nice nonresponse to my post. Could you not find any more help from The Epoch Times?
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It's all about enhancing yer thoughts brother. Enlightening yer world. 👍
 
Ponca Dan said:
I’m the furthest thing from being a progressive, I am against virtually everything they are for.
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I know. Yet you want to tell progressives why they aren't real progressives lol. After your rants about all the progressive and leftist policies being enacted over the past two years.🤣🤣
 
my_2cents said:
I know. Yet you want to tell progressives why they aren't real progressives lol. After your rants about all the progressive and leftist policies being enacted over the past two years.🤣🤣
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Huh?
 
my_2cents said:
Wait a minute, didn't you just start a thread about those who make these types of comments? Simpletons and all that.🤣🤣

btw, nice nonresponse to my post. Could you not find any more help from The Epoch Times?
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I didn’t expect you would get it.

The true believers never do.
 
Alpha Woke said:
I didn’t expect you would get it.

The true believers never do.
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You are trying to talk about "true believers" after you quoted from an opinion piece on The Epoch Times? Without even noting that is where you got the information lol.

What was all that talk from you before about never having an original thought? Is running to The Epoch Times for help an original thought?🤣🤣
 
my_2cents said:
You are trying to talk about "true believers" after you quoted from an opinion piece on The Epoch Times? Without even noting that is where you got the information lol.

What was all that talk from you before about never having an original thought? Is running to The Epoch Times for help an original thought?🤣🤣
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Is it wrong?

Lets do a test.

Lets fact check your sources v mine.

Who are your truth tellers?
 
Alpha Woke said:
Lets fact check your sources v mine.

Who are your truth tellers?
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My response to your plagiarism of The Epoch Times was my own words. My own thoughts. I didn't look at any outside source as I wrote my post.
 
my_2cents said:
The vast majority of what the crazies obtained is nothing but partisan fodder.

I thought though that you wanted to see both parties work together to solve the real problems facing our country? You know, bills passed with a super majority and the extremes on both sides being rejected. Compromise and all that. Change your mind now?

Yes, I know. You never really wanted any of that to begin with.
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Where in your frazzled brain did you get the idea I want the establishment politicians of both parties to work together? Give me the extremists every time. The point you miss, either because you’re too stupid or so enamored of authoritarianism you can’t function logically, is the extremes of the two sides have a natural common enemy, and they would be wise to join forces on issues that will benefit each of them. The recent reforms are a perfect example. The right-wing extremists have put their Republican leadership on notice that they’re not going to be bullied any more. The left wing extremists had an opportunity to do the same to their Democrat leadership, but knuckled under in fear. I’ll keep repeating it: either they are cowards or they were never progressives in the first place.
 
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my_2cents said:
As a supporter of these progressives you speak of, I am not left wondering what happened to their collective backbone. Not one bit. I also have progressive friends who are not wondering about this nor do I see progressives wondering about this on other message boards. This is just another one of your fantasies.

Now go ahead, call me and all these other progressives "establishment tools" because we don't want to burn down everything and have no desire to align with these crazy nutjobs on the right. Give us an unhinged rant about how we aren't true progressives because we aren't aligning with a bunch of neo-fascist clowns.🤣🤣
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Look at Rick go! And he called someone a Fascist! 🤣🤣

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Alpha Woke said:
What the 20 won for us.

  1. As has been reported, it will only take a single congressperson, acting in what is known as a Jeffersonian Motion, to move to remove the Speaker if he or she goes back on their word or policy agenda.
  2. A “Church” style committee will be convened to look into the weaponization of the FBI and other government organizations(presumably the CIA, the subject of the original Church Committee) against the American people.
  3. Term limits will be put up for a vote.
  4. Bills presented to Congress will be single subject, not omnibus with all the attendant earmarks, and there will be a 72-hour minimum period to read them.
  5. The Texas Border Plan will be put before Congress. From The Hill: “The four-pronged plan aims to ‘Complete Physical Border Infrastructure,’ ‘Fix Border Enforcement Policies,’ ‘Enforce our Laws in the Interior’ and ‘Target Cartels & Criminal Organizations.'”
  6. COVID mandates will be ended as will all funding for them, including so-called “emergency funding.”
  7. Budget bills would stop the endless increases in the debt ceiling and hold the Senate accountable for the same.
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Why did you omit the other 20 things that were part of the "bargain"?
 
davidallen said:
Why did you omit the other 20 things that were part of the "bargain"?
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What about these seven, David? Do you see anything objectionable in any one of them? Let’s start with these seven and then you can list the others and tell us what’s wrong with them. You can do it!
 
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