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would we be any worse?

fire the entire def staff except joe bob. move jb back to def lineman or move him to def co-or. take all your defensive "consultants/analysts and make them your def staff. at this point i don't think we could be any worse on def. hell, me and robert allen could run the def and we would not be any worse than yesterday.

same thing with offensive staff. running up the centers ass over and over on first and second down for minimal gain? scripting the first 20-25 plays regardless of down and distance? and getting paid $7M per year? you get away with that s%it while your are winning, loosing 3 in a row, that s%it won't fly.

wait til game in utah v byu, and byu gets a shot at us on a friday night with no osu fans at the game. they're gonna kick our ass and pour it on, no mercy.

our portal with no bowl game swag will be a disaster. or if we make a crappy bowl game, none of the players will play, see the gaggies bowl game v osu last yr.

gundy raised the bar, now for $7m he's gotta get his ass over that bar or walk away.

one bullet at a time

Hey! I’ve Got An Idea!

If Israel is going to bomb Lebanon because Hezbollah bombed Israel because Israel bombed Lebanon because Hezbollah bombed Israel because Israel bombed Lebanon because Hezbollah bombed Israel … then the only logical next step is for Israel to take the bombing to a new level and murder Lebanese children. The precedent has been set in Gaza and look how marvelously that has worked out for the most moral society and government in the history of mankind! It’s a policy guaranteed to end the conflict with no hard feelings.


Tell Me, Bearcat

Would Trump approve of this? Do you? Bibi is gonna get us fighting someone (he must not care who) in his defense no matter what. Why would I ask if you approve? Of course you approve! America is here at Israel’s beck and call.


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Can something good come from Biedumb and Harryass incompetence?

This was needed 3 decades ago when China was a military backwater! Better late than never. So we have Sweden, Finland joining NATO . Now Russia, China and NK have Japan talking nukes. The world has gotten so dangerous under Biedumb that pacifist excluding P-Dan are joining military orgs and talking about nuking up.

Strong military alliances in Asia were needed long ago and It was about time for Sweden and Finland to stand up to the Bear.

Now if we can get India to quit playing footsie with Russia and join the west against these axis of evil.


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Anyone claiming to be on the 'right' who says Trump is an *&*&*&*&* we need to move on from must be mocked and shamed to the left where they belong

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We're got Kamala blowing off helping flood victims in the South so she can appear on a sex podcast famous for telling millennial women how to give better bl@wjobs.

If Trump did this, every Never Trump alive would shit their pants. Kamala does it and crickets.

Country over TDS, guys.

Three-game damage report indicates Mike Gundy has to make changes

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Bill Haisten: Three-game damage report indicates Mike Gundy has to make changes​

  • Oct 6, 2024 Updated 7 hrs ago
STILLWATER — A review of the last three Oklahoma State football games would be considered a damage report.

The Utah debacle was followed by the Kansas State debacle, and then it all somehow got worse with Saturday’s West Virginia disaster – a 38-14 Big 12 home loss to the Mountaineers.

This game was such a soul-crushing mismatch that many within the Boone Pickens Stadium sellout crowd were gone before halftime and only a loyal-and-true few remained in the ballpark to witness the sad finish.

The real final score here was 389-36 – West Virginia’s shocking advantage in rushing yards.

As recently as the morning of Sept. 21 – before that afternoon’s Big 12 opener against Utah – Oklahoma State was unbeaten and ranked No. 14 in the Associated Press poll. OSU now is 3-3 overall and 0-3 in the Big 12 with a team that seems broken in every sense.

After the 42-20 outcome at K-State, I wrote that the Oklahoma State program is stuck in a period of staleness. Several OSU acquaintances messaged with their challenges of that opinion, but who would argue that the program is healthy and performing at the standard set since 2008?

From the start of the 2020 season and through the midway mark of the 2022 season, the Oklahoma State program was 25-5. In 11 of those games, OSU was ranked in the top 10 of the Associated Press poll.

In 28 games since the midway mark of the 2022 season, the OSU program is 15-13 with losses of 48, 21, 26, 42, 28, 22 and 24 points.

This 0-3 start in conference play is a deafening signal that Mike Gundy has to make sweeping, dramatic changes within his coaching staff and his roster.

When Oklahoma State was so offensively inept during the final month of the 2009 season, it was obvious that changes were necessary. Gundy had been the offensive play-caller for two seasons. He relinquished that role and hired Dana Holgorsen to coordinate the offense. Holgorsen’s arrival coincided with Brandon Weeden’s rise to No. 1 on the quarterback depth chart, and the results were brilliant.

Every ticket for every 2024 OSU home game was sold before the start of the season. Now, the Cowboys twice have been schooled on their home field.

Not by OU and Texas.

By Utah and West Virginia.

When Oklahoma State defeated OU last year – in the final Bedlam battle that would match the Cowboys and Sooners as conference rivals – Boone Pickens Stadium was the scene of more unbridled joy than I’ve seen in any venue at any level of sports. OSU fans danced on the Bedlam turf and ripped down the east-end goal post.

On Saturday, as West Virginia had 558 total yards to OSU’s 227, and as the Cowboys averaged 1.7 yards per rush attempt, those same fans were booing.

Oh, and there was this: Officially, West Virginia did not punt the football on Saturday. There was one punt Mountaineer punt at the 3:53 mark of the fourth period, but OSU was flagged for a running-into-the-kicker infraction. West Virginia was given a fresh set of downs.

Bad football is bad for business overall, and Oklahoma State must have successful football to sustain its athletics operation. That’s the bottom-line aspect of college sports, and that’s the reason Gundy will have to make major changes after the season.

During the 2025 campaign to sell football tickets, it would be tough to sell a status-quo situation to OSU alumni and fans.
The Cowboys are idle next weekend and play a Friday night game at BYU on Oct. 18. Based on what I’ve seen over the last three Saturdays, I’m expecting a terrible Friday at BYU.

If Gundy and his assistants can find answers to their run-blocking and run-defense problems during this upcoming week of extra practice, it would be a miracle.
It’s time to accept that this Cowboy team just isn’t very good. Quarterback play is sub-standard. Lately, everything is sub-standard.

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The grim reality: OSU may be careening in the direction of its first losing season since Gundy’s debut season in 2005.

Think about that.

In 2005, the iPhone wasn’t even a thing in 2005. It didn’t exist until 2007.

In 2005, Eddie Sutton coached the basketball Cowboys.

In 2005, Oklahoma City did have an NBA team but it wasn’t the Thunder.

It was the Hornets, with Chris Paul as the Rookie of the Year point guard. Paul today is a 39-year-old member of the San Antonio Spurs.

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Change or Die (like Blockbuster), Gundy must HIRE Holgorsen & Patterson

What is the reason for the decline of OSU football?

  • Gundy's unwillingness to change with the times (portal, NIL, recruiting, etc)?

    Votes: 4 10.8%
  • Gundy's unwillingness to make staff changes?

    Votes: 29 78.4%
  • Gundy's pride because he knows better than everybody else.

    Votes: 15 40.5%
  • Gundy's laziness and comfortability knowing he cannot be fired.

    Votes: 10 27.0%
  • It is something else and I'll explain below.

    Votes: 1 2.7%

In the corporate world, large successful companies eventually fail if they do not embrace change (Blockbuster, Sears, etc). Change for the sake of change is bad, but change to stay relevant is essential. What are your thoughts about the state of the program? What can be done?

Personally, I would demote both coordinators and promote others on staff. Both Dunn & Nardo are over their heads. The problem is Gundy hates and even despises change. Gundy prefers continuity over results, which is also why he targets coordinators who he feels won't be hired away for head coaching positions and rarely ever fires a coach.

Maybe Gundy just doesn't care enough to fix anything because he knows he would be $35 million dollars richer if OSU has to fire him. Or it could be a pride issue and doesn't want to admit these hires were a failure, which is why he hates getting rid of coaches. It always takes him too many seasons to where he has to be forced into a coaching change by the athletic director, the media, and the fans.

Is there any way to salvage the 2024 season?

or is this just a slow burn until December?

With how we’ve played, seeing no changes from Gundy and staff, and seeing some of the players give so little effort… I don’t feel confident about beating any of these remaining teams.

BPS could be really empty for homecoming and our last home game vs Tech :(

Bye
@ BYU (5-0)
@ Baylor (2-4)
vs Arizona St (4-1)
@ TCU (3-3)
Bye
vs Texas Tech (5-1)
@ Colorado (4-1)

OFF-TOPIC Cross Canadian Ragweed

Bit of an off-ramp from somewhat depressing FB talk, but rumors of a reunion involving Boone Pickens Stadium are all over OSU Twitter, err X, right now.

There's definitely something up, with CCR social pages being updated for the first time in nearly 15 years last week.

For some, you might be like "who?" For those of us who were at OSU in the years from 1994 to 2010, it's kind of a big deal.

The BPS thing is interesting. Could the Boys from Oklahoma fill it up by themselves?
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