What if...

[MegaPoke]

Trump accomplishes 80% of his campaign promises and the economy continues to surge and grow - and after 4 years, the DNC (and neocon buddies), bound by trade of their souls to Soros etc brand globalism...

...the DNC and all its candidates only record of participation in various recoveries is their silly Braveheart scenes and celebrity fueled resistance, failed secession of Californistan etc?

2018 would be a bloodbath and 2020 would be worse.

If you truly fear this guy's authoritarianish personality, why wouldn't you try to work with him to protect your interests instead of letting him suck up all the oxygen and monopolize the "getting shit done" headlines?

Serious question. The crying wolf really minimizes your ability to address actual abuses of power. Is this a concern to any board progressive?

 

[MegaPoke]

Milo actually alluded to the answer on Mahr's show - in my opinion. Liberals are easy and predictable.

Maybe not Trump, but Bannon certainly realizes this.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

 

[MegaPoke]

Nobody?

 

[MegaPoke]

So I guess not one board progressive can be bothered to Respond?

Is the thought exercise of Trump being successful simply too much for you?

Let me try simplifying it before I start tagging you guys.

If Trump is successful, are you concerned come election time that most democrats branded themselves as opposition to that success?

 

[Medic007]

So I guess not one board progressive can be bothered to Respond?

Is the thought exercise of Trump being successful simply too much for you?

Let me try simplifying it before I start tagging you guys.

If Trump is successful, are you concerned come election time that most democrats branded themselves as opposition to that success?

They are cowering in bunkers knowing what 2018 will look like. They can't fathom 2020 and beyond.

 

[CowboyJD]

So I guess not one board progressive can be bothered to Respond?

Is the thought exercise of Trump being successful simply too much for you?

Let me try simplifying it before I start tagging you guys.

If Trump is successful, are you concerned come election time that most democrats branded themselves as opposition to that success?

Not a board progressive, but.....I didn't respond because the answer seems pretty self evident.

Yes, they should be concerned come election time if Trump is successful.

At the same time truly getting on board and helping Trump be successful would likely result in them not even getting out of the primaries.

So Trump succeeding is a no win proposition for them, whether they help or try to hinder. The country is that divided right now.

 

[Rdcldad]

people voted for trump because they wanted change and did not like the direction our country was headed.

the democrats have done nothing but feed into the drama. they have made themselves champions of the border skirmish.

people are becoming decensitized to media driven scandal and putting #maga at the forefront of their priorities.

i don't think anyone who elected trump doesn't feel like they aren't getting what they voted for and that's a real problem moving forward for the dems and mccain like repubs who stand in the way.

 

[MegaPoke]

Not a board progressive, but.....I didn't respond because the answer seems pretty self evident.

Yes, they should be concerned come election time if Trump is successful.

At the same time truly getting on board and helping Trump be successful would likely result in them not even getting out of the primaries.

So Trump succeeding is a no win proposition for them, whether they help or try to hinder. The country is that divided right now.

So self evident our resisent progressives are afraid to address it I guess.

Ok let's try this.

Are any of the board progressives concerned about the lack of creativity in their playbook?

Their response to Trump reminds me a lot of Pat Jones game plan against Nebraska in 1991. Run off tackle 3 times and punt, eating some clock but still, Nebraska (Trump) scores virtually at will.

Oh sure he had to punt on immigration but just got the ball back after forcing a turnover (Sweden).

 

[07pilt]

So self evident our resisent progressives are afraid to address it I guess.

Ok let's try this.

Are any of the board progressives concerned about the lack of creativity in their playbook?

Their response to Trump reminds me a lot of Pat Jones game plan against Nebraska in 1991. Run off tackle 3 times and punt, eating some clock but still, Nebraska (Trump) scores virtually at will.

Oh sure he had to punt on immigration but just got the ball back after forcing a turnover (Sweden).

Yes we are very disappointed in our coaching. If we can flip one more vote on the BOR we can fire this coach (hopefully we can come up with the buyout money).

 

[07pilt]

What if... Trump turns out to be a bad president, and you blew your anti establishment load on the worst president in living memory, making the establishment unassailable for the rest of your life?

 

[JimmyBob]

Their response to Trump reminds me a lot of Pat Jones game plan against Nebraska in 1991. Run off tackle 3 times and punt, eating some clock but still, Nebraska (Trump) scores virtually at will.

I can't believe you slipped that turd into our punchbowl.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Mega, that's always the dynamic. Sheesh, act like you've been in the end zone before.

 

[HighStickHarry]

What if... Trump turns out to be a bad president, and you blew your anti establishment load on the worst president in living memory, making the establishment unassailable for the rest of your life?

Most of us new this was a possibility. An extreme possibility. Trump scares me but I felt like gamboling.

 

[CowboyJD]

So self evident our resisent progressives are afraid to address it I guess.

Ok let's try this.

Are any of the board progressives concerned about the lack of creativity in their playbook?

Their response to Trump reminds me a lot of Pat Jones game plan against Nebraska in 1991. Run off tackle 3 times and punt, eating some clock but still, Nebraska (Trump) scores virtually at will.

Oh sure he had to punt on immigration but just got the ball back after forcing a turnover (Sweden).

THIS is a much better question, IMO.

 

[MegaPoke]

What if... Trump turns out to be a bad president, and you blew your anti establishment load on the worst president in living memory, making the establishment unassailable for the rest of your life?

It's possible. But I'm relatively confident after his Fields to Woods play in the GE.

 

[MegaPoke]

Mega, that's always the dynamic. Sheesh, act like you've been in the end zone before.

I've scored so many times, I have naming rights in the end zone son.

 

[MegaPoke]

Most of us new this was a possibility. An extreme possibility. Trump scares me but I felt like gamboling.

*knew

Moron.

 

[Inky29]

I don't think the Dem's have a good play to call right now. Oppose him at every turn and he ends up sucking, guess what the finger gets pointed at you. Help him and he's successful, then damn he was successful and that doesn't help you out. Oppose him and he's successful, then you are completely screwed. Help him and he sucks then you at least have a shot at getting some new blood Dem's in the game, when the whole thing gets reset. Not that I care but you all have to start by getting Pelosi, Warren, and Chuck as your talking heads replaced. Having D's from Californian, NY, and Mass as your center pieces just isn't going to work right now.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

I've scored so many times, I have naming rights in the end zone son.

Funny. Speaking of you "scoring" I heard the Tulsa School of Cosmetology named a broom closet after you. At least they think it was you -- they found some streaked-up tights in there several times, so naturally they assumed it was you. Must've had some rock n' roll fans attending there back in the day?

 

[Rdcldad]

Not that I care but you all have to start by getting Pelosi, Warren, and Chuck as your talking heads replaced. Having D's from Californian, NY, and Mass as your center pieces just isn't going to work right now.

good point

problem is those states are the dem center piece.

add chicago and by default the state of IL and that's it for those folks

 

[OKSTATE1]

I don't think the Dem's have a good play to call right now. Oppose him at every turn and he ends up sucking, guess what the finger gets pointed at you. Help him and he's successful, then damn he was successful and that doesn't help you out. Oppose him and he's successful, then you are completely screwed. Help him and he sucks then you at least have a shot at getting some new blood Dem's in the game, when the whole thing gets reset. Not that I care but you all have to start by getting Pelosi, Warren, and Chuck as your talking heads replaced. Having D's from Californian, NY, and Mass as your center pieces just isn't going to work right now.

God forbid 2 parties work together to move the country forward, this is the thinking that has to stop across both aisles and gives credence as to why you should only be allowed to serve one term. You are there to serve and help the country, not to hurt the country and play politics to keep being elected. Naive I know.... but it is why we should vote out every Dem and Rep in Congress and start over. Do away with lobbyists and go to one term, it will help kill the establishment and return power back to the public instead of ingrained politicians. BTW - I think having mandatory 1 term Presidents would be fine as well, most afraid to piss people off their first term and use the first term to get re elected, so most are worthless.

 

[HighStickHarry]

*knew

Moron.

I stopped paying attention to details like that since I switched from computer to phone. You are lucky I got that close

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Dems will have some talent again. Next time we won't have an old lady fainting and falling down every two days.

When the dems have a real primary they'll get better candidates. Gotta have some Darwin in the primaries. When they anoint someone they lose. Gore and HRC were both annointed and lost. Nobody gave Bill Clinton a chance when he declared, he was a nobody. Obama wasn't given a chance, either.

How soon you guys forget Romsney, McCain and Dole. You win one and have all the answers now.

 

[CowboyJD]

Dems will have some talent again. Next time we won't have an old lady fainting and falling down every two days.

When the dems have a real primary they'll get better candidates. Gotta have some Darwin in the primaries. When they anoint someone they lose. Gore and HRC were both annointed and lost. Nobody gave Bill Clinton a chance when he declared, he was a nobody. Obama wasn't given a chance, either.

How soon you guys forget Romsney, McCain and Dole. You win one and have all the answers now.

He's kinda gotta point. FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon(Ford), Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, Trump is a pretty compelling trend for post-WWII Presidents...almost the exact same number of terms in office for both parties.

We hear, every single change in administration how the lastest election is a harbinger of imminent doom for the losing party.

Just saying....

 

[ThorOdinson13]

He's kinda gotta point. FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon(Ford), Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, Trump is a pretty compelling trend for post-WWII Presidents...almost the exact same number of terms in office for both parties.

We hear, every single change in administration how the lastest election is a harbinger of imminent doom for the losing party.

Just saying....

Yup. And the Republicans lose when they anoint as well.

 

[MegaPoke]

Funny. Speaking of you "scoring" I heard the Tulsa School of Cosmetology named a broom closet after you. At least they think it was you -- they found some streaked-up tights in there several times, so naturally they assumed it was you. Must've had some rock n' roll fans attending there back in the day?

 

[MegaPoke]

He's kinda gotta point. FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon(Ford), Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, Trump is a pretty compelling trend for post-WWII Presidents...almost the exact same number of terms in office for both parties.

We hear, every single change in administration how the lastest election is a harbinger of imminent doom for the losing party.

Just saying....

This election was a defeat of both parties.

Just sayin

 

[Rdcldad]

This election was a defeat of both parties.

Just sayin

i think paul ryan called it a referendum

 

[CowboyJD]

This election was a defeat of both parties.

Just sayin

Lol.

Nope.

Keep believing in the Troll King Messiah you've anointed though.

 

[davidallen]

Political reality says Dems have to focus on midterms which IMO means keeping the outrage alive. Those arguing this hurts Dems need to realize that HRC was only just a couple of points of turnout away from POTUS.

Good of the Country would be DJT meeting Dems on ACA repairs as a show of good faith, striking a more conciliatory tone on the failed EO, and abandoning the appeal to "scoreboard" whenever questioned. Won't happen, would be nice...

 

[MegaPoke]

Lol.

Nope.

Keep believing in the Troll King Messiah you've anointed though.

Wow

 

[davidallen]

Wow

He's right pains me to say...

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Political reality says Dems have to focus on midterms which IMO means keeping the outrage alive. Those arguing this hurts Dems need to realize that HRC was only just a couple of points of turnout away from POTUS.

Good of the Country would be DJT meeting Dems on ACA repairs as a show of good faith, striking a more conciliatory tone on the failed EO, and abandoning the appeal to "scoreboard" whenever questioned. Won't happen, would be nice...

Biff's best moments where when he was positive and inspirational. We're gonna build. Build great airports and infrastructure, etc. I won't let people die in the streets. When everybody gasped he stuck his chin out and said it again. He sounded like TREX. He could push through a national catastrophic plan at cost that would be cheap and make him a damned hero to everyone but the health insurance industry.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Political reality says Dems have to focus on midterms which IMO means keeping the outrage alive. Those arguing this hurts Dems need to realize that HRC was only just a couple of points of turnout away from POTUS.

Good of the Country would be DJT meeting Dems on ACA repairs as a show of good faith, striking a more conciliatory tone on the failed EO, and abandoning the appeal to "scoreboard" whenever questioned. Won't happen, would be nice...

A couple of points away from beating who? The worst literally lying hitler in America? Woopty doo davidallen. You can't have it both ways.

 

[davidallen]

A couple of points away from beating who? The worst literally lying hitler in America? Woopty doo davidallen. You can't have it both ways.

Ummm... the same guy they will be running against in the midterms. What is your point?

 

[Been Jammin]

IMO, Trump is going to have to knock it out of the park to have a decent chance in 2020. That is assuming that he is even interested in doing it for another 4 years. It has only been a month and he has already been to his Florida retreat on 3 of the 4 weekends.

I am of the belief that Democrats went into the GE extremely overconfident. All of the "Trump has no chance" polls and coverage resulted in a significant number of voters staying home rather than fighting the lines/crowds so that they could vote. If Trump is up for reelection, they won't be inclined to do that again.

In addition, the younger demographics appear to be leaning significantly more in the liberal direction. 4 years from now, more of them will be old enough to vote and more elderly conservatives will have passed away.

The odds are against another 4 years of Trump, unless he really is able to do things like significantly improving the economy, defeating ISIS, improving the financial standing of the US (vs other countries), eliminating D.C. corruption, etc.

 

[aix_xpert]

IMO, Trump is going to have to knock it out of the park to have a decent chance in 2020. That is assuming that he is even interested in doing it for another 4 years. It has only been a month and he has already been to his Florida retreat on 3 of the 4 weekends.

I am of the belief that Democrats went into the GE extremely overconfident. All of the "Trump has no chance" polls and coverage resulted in a significant number of voters staying home rather than fighting the lines/crowds so that they could vote. If Trump is up for reelection, they won't be inclined to do that again.

In addition, the younger demographics appear to be leaning significantly more in the liberal direction. 4 years from now, more of them will be old enough to vote and more elderly conservatives will have passed away.

The odds are against another 4 years of Trump, unless he really is able to do things like significantly improving the economy, defeating ISIS, improving the financial standing of the US (vs other countries), eliminating D.C. corruption, etc.

I don't expect Trump to actually run in 2020. But I'd note that if we continue with the economic optimism and we see real economic growth, his appointed successor will have a strong chance of re-election. The fat cats of the establishment (both sides) seem to forget that its still the economy that drives elections. And for all the Pro-Obama economy numbers, he could never generate enough growth that the fed had to adjust interest rates. We had 1 rate hike in his 8 years of office. Yet with Trump, suddenly you are seeing the Fed have to re-assess the real growth measures and has to change stance from propping up Obama's failed recovery to slowing the inflation of Trump's business-first growing economy.

 

[07pilt]

The odds are against another 4 years of Trump, unless he really is able to do things like significantly improving the economy, defeating ISIS, improving the financial standing of the US (vs other countries), eliminating D.C. corruption, etc.

ISIS defeat is almost a sure thing. Is that enough for him to get a W in 2020 if everything else stays the same (including ACA)?

 

[07pilt]

I don't expect Trump to actually run in 2020. But I'd note that if we continue with the economic optimism and we see real economic growth, his appointed successor will have a strong chance of re-election. The fat cats of the establishment (both sides) seem to forget that its still the economy that drives elections. And for all the Pro-Obama economy numbers, he could never generate enough growth that the fed had to adjust interest rates. We had 1 rate hike in his 8 years of office. Yet with Trump, suddenly you are seeing the Fed have to re-assess the real growth measures and has to change stance from propping up Obama's failed recovery to slowing the inflation of Trump's business-first growing economy.

You are so full of shit.