Twitter flips the script—victims to Trump

[poke2001]

It has nothing to do with the gun show "system." The gun show "system" isn't a real thing. People that don't meet the requirements for federal licensing as a firearms dealers can sell guns without doing background checks under the current law. Those transactions can happen at gun shows, the local Wal-Mart parking lot, or your house, etc.

People do go to gun shows to sell their personally owned guns and people at gun shows can buy them. But again, a gun show doesn't have to happen for those private transactions to occur. People take guns to the gun show because it's an obvious buyers market.

@CSCOTTOSUPOKES and other liberals like to throw out “gun show loophole” because it makes it sound like gun stores can simply sell their merchandise and gun shows without background checks. Liberals are clever in their messaging and have a very compliant media (and morons like @CSCOTTOSUPOKES who fall for it).

 

[poke2001]

3 in his original column is the fewest number I see.

How many of these are domestic and include the shooter as a suicide?

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

@CSCOTTOSUPOKES and other liberals like to throw out “gun show loophole” because it makes it sound like gun stores can simply sell their merchandise and gun shows without background checks. Liberals are clever in their messaging and have a very compliant media (and morons like @CSCOTTOSUPOKES who fall for it).[/QUOTE]

Having passed a NICS before, I know that’s not true lol.

 

[PDT816]

My mistake. But it was a decidedly Republican initiative.

This statement is also blatantly false.

You clearly don't know anything about this other than what you've heard other people say.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

This statement is also blatantly false.

You clearly don't know anything about this other than what you've heard other people say.

“
Congressional votes
Introduced by Rep. Sam Johnson (R-TX3) as House Joint Resolution 40, the bill passed the House 235–180 a mere three days later after its introduction.

Six Democrats voted in favor, most from major gun-owning states: Sanford Bishop (D-GA2), Henry Cuellar (D-TX28), Ron Kind (D-WI3), Reps. Tom O’Halleran (D-AZ1), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ9), and Timothy Walz (D-MN1). Two Republicans voted against, both from New York state: Reps. Daniel Donovan (R-NY11) and Pete King (R-NY2).

About two weeks later, the bill 32 cosponsors, all but one a Republican. Four Senate Democrats plus one Democratic-caucusing Independent voted in favor, most from major gun-owning states: Sens. Joe Donnelly (D-IN), Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND), Angus King (I-ME), Joe Manchin (D-WV), and Jon Tester (D-MT). No Senate Republicans voted against.”


Anything else from you, genius? Lol.

Carry on.

 

[PDT816]

“
Congressional votes
Introduced by Rep. Sam Johnson (R-TX3) as House Joint Resolution 40, the bill passed the House 235–180 a mere three days later after its introduction.

Six Democrats voted in favor, most from major gun-owning states: Sanford Bishop (D-GA2), Henry Cuellar (D-TX28), Ron Kind (D-WI3), Reps. Tom O’Halleran (D-AZ1), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ9), and Timothy Walz (D-MN1). Two Republicans voted against, both from New York state: Reps. Daniel Donovan (R-NY11) and Pete King (R-NY2).

About two weeks later, the bill 32 cosponsors, all but one a Republican. Four Senate Democrats plus one Democratic-caucusing Independent voted in favor, most from major gun-owning states: Sens. Joe Donnelly (D-IN), Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND), Angus King (I-ME), Joe Manchin (D-WV), and Jon Tester (D-MT). No Senate Republicans voted against.”


Anything else from you, genius? Lol.

Carry on.

Would you like me to give you a primer on how rulemaking works for executive branch and independent bodies in our government? I can keep it to small words.

This was not popular across the spectrum of political viewpoints

 

[poke2001]

@CSCOTTOSUPOKES and other liberals like to throw out “gun show loophole” because it makes it sound like gun stores can simply sell their merchandise and gun shows without background checks. Liberals are clever in their messaging and have a very compliant media (and morons like @CSCOTTOSUPOKES who fall for it).

Having passed a NICS before, I know that’s not true lol.[/QUOTE]
Like many of your posts, I have no ****ing clue what you are saying.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Having passed a NICS before, I know that’s not true lol.

Like many of your posts, I have no ****ing clue what you are saying.[/QUOTE]

NICS, as in National Instant Criminal Background Check System

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics

 

[poke2001]

Like many of your posts, I have no ****ing clue what you are saying.

NICS, as in National Instant Criminal Background Check System

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics[/QUOTE]
Yeh, dipshit, I know what that is.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

NICS, as in National Instant Criminal Background Check System

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics

Yeh, dipshit, I know what that is.[/QUOTE]

Good for you, and more unprovoked namecalling. It’s interesting playing the board villain, almost like the kindergarten cop lol.

Carry on.

 

[poke2001]

Yeh, dipshit, I know what that is.

Good for you, and more unprovoked namecalling. It’s interesting playing the board villain, almost like the kindergarten cop lol.

Carry on.[/QUOTE]
Lulzzzzz.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Would you like me to give you a primer on how rulemaking works for executive branch and independent bodies in our government? I can keep it to small words.

This was not popular across the spectrum of political viewpoints

And yet it had little resistance.

 

[PDT816]

And yet it had little resistance.

It had massive resistance. Groups from the ACLU to mental health organizations were all over it.

Where are you getting your information from? Honest question

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

It had massive resistance. Groups from the ACLU to mental health organizations were all over it.

Where are you getting your information from? Honest question

It had little resistance in Capitol Hill and the White House.

 

[PDT816]

It had little resistance in Capitol Hill and the White House.

It wasn't enacted through the White House or Capitol Hill. that's the entire point

 

[poke2001]

It had massive resistance. Groups from the ACLU to mental health organizations were all over it.

Where are you getting your information from? Honest question

He’s searching all the liberal sites and hasn’t found his answer yet. Hold please.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

It wasn't enacted through the White House or Capitol Hill. that's the entire point

Huh?

 

[PDT816]

Huh?

This is why you shouldn't call people out as things like "genius". You have no idea about the history of this rule do you?

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

This is why you shouldn't call people out as things like "genius". You have no idea about the history of this rule do you?

Nope, I didn’t read anything before posting it lol. You’re an idiot.

Carry on.

 

[PDT816]

Nope, I didn’t read anything before posting it lol. You’re an idiot.

Carry on.

Then why don't you explain it to everybody else because as recently as an hour or so ago you thought it was an Executive Order

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Then why don't you explain it to everybody else because as recently as an hour or so ago you thought it was an Executive Order

And I said I was mistaken earlier lol. Reread haha.

Carry on.

 

[PDT816]

And I said I was mistaken earlier lol. Reread haha.

Carry on.

Is this a confession that you don't know?

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Is this a confession that you don't know?

I was mistaken of the definitions yes.

Now...

This statement is also blatantly false.

You clearly don't know anything about this other than what you've heard other people say.

It wasn't enacted through the White House or Capitol Hill. that's the entire point

You gonna admit you were wrong here?

Carry on.

 

[poke2001]

This is why you shouldn't call people out as things like "genius". You have no idea about the history of this rule do you?

He has no idea about most things. He reads a talking point on a liberal blog and runs here and posts it. He has no idea what it means but it sounds good to him. He then claims #facts because he read it on the internet and that he is #winning to make himself feel good.

 

[Medic007]

Yet another one legged man in an ass kicking competition on full display, again. Almost every thread today has gone wrong for Clinton. Must be the weather.

 

[CowboyJD]

It wasn't enacted through the White House or Capitol Hill. that's the entire point

Can verify the legal accuracy of this statement.

Not gonna give a primer on how the Administrative Procedures Act works though...because you know and anyone in this thread that doesn’t know wouldn’t learn from it.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Can verify the legal accuracy of this statement.

Not gonna give a primer on how the Administrative Procedures Act works though...because you know and anyone in this thread that doesn’t know wouldn’t learn from it.

I’m all ears. Sincerely.

 

[PDT816]

I was mistaken of the definitions yes.





You gonna admit you were wrong here?

Carry on.

Not wrong and I'll happily prove it if you are man enough to put you're money where your mouth is.

 

[CowboyJD]

I’m all ears. Sincerely.

Experience has taught me to doubt your sincerity.

I will say this though...APA rulemaking doesn’t start or end in the White House and the White House doesn’t “enact” administrative rules/regulations.

Beyond that, educate yourself.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Experience has taught me to doubt your sincerity.

We don’t always have to spar like this JD. Lol, I mean, I respect you and that’s why I said, sincerely, I’m all ears.

I’m also considering the LSAT.

 

[Medic007]

We don’t always have to spar like this JD. Lol, I mean, I respect you and that’s why I said, sincerely, I’m all ears.

I’m also considering the LSAT.

I think he told you to be all eyes and read for yourself. Pretty sure he's "not going to spoon feed you" is an accurate paraphrase.

 

[PDT816]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rulemaking

It's not the best description of how it works, but it will get you started.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_Procedure_Act_(United_States)

This is the Act in the US that authorizes government agencies to take part in rulemaking authority.

 

[CowboyJD]

We don’t always have to spar like this JD. Lol, I mean, I respect you and that’s why I said, sincerely, I’m all ears.

I’m also considering the LSAT.

Yeah, your past responses to me just ooze respect.

I’m not sparring. Is that what you really believe we are doing or have done in the past?

I’m just not interested.

Also, there is value in educating yourself from source documents. You could start with 5 USC Sec. 500 et seq. if you are sincerely interested.

 

[PDT816]

And this is a copy of the Federal Register notice in which the SSA implemented the rule

://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/12/19/2016-30407/implementation-of-the-nics-improvement-amendments-act-of-2007

 

[PDT816]

The ACLU, the National Council on Disability (an independent government agency itself), and a list too long to list absolutely shit their pants when the SSA first announced this.

None are conservative strongholds