I know, the American people are not allowed to directly elect their President. The system elected Trump.
Still, it doesn't change the fact that among the voters, Clinton won more votes. Trump couldn't even win more votes against Clinton.
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I know, the American people are not allowed to directly elect their President. The system elected Trump.
Still, it doesn't change the fact that among the voters, Clinton won more votes. Trump couldn't even win more votes against Clinton.
Who has to run for re-election in 2020 (if he doesn't resign first). And he won't be running against Clinton then.
And she finished last. A hearty pat on the back for accomplishing so much and achieving absolutely nothing.
The point of concern for the DNC should be the blue states that turned red. They are still ignoring the reason that happened. They will continue to see failure as long as they ignore the problem. There's a reason that Republicans own the House, Senate, Presidency, and majority of state governments.
Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch alone makes Trump a winner. Contributing also is a massive reduction of illegal immigrants, reduction of regulations, and a host of other positives which Hildebitch would not have done.
I agree and I think with the right candidate in 2020, those states will most return to blue (along with a few red/purple states turning blue).
And the Democrats owned the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2009. The ebb and flow of American politics.
I do. This thread started showing how dismal Trump's approval ratings are.
That is the now...and yet, you guys brought up Clinton. lol!
Yeah, so why didn't they do something about making "rich folks pay their fair share"?
It will take more than the right candidate to win in 2020. The Dems need a makeover. Identity politics as the backbone of the platform is not a winning strategy. Those toxic white males are an enormous voting bloc.
Have you considered that we just don't care about his approval ratings? The polls all predicted Hillary in a landslide, yet here we are.
The democrats should be thankful they were hacked. It showed how dirty and corrupt their leadership truly are.
I wish the RNC was hacked also to show who is dirty there also.
And with the info from the leaks being released by wiki, it makes me believe that it probably wasn't the Russians, but an insider. If the Russians had the info they could have used it to blackmail the already corrupt leadership. That would have been interference.
I wish the RNC was hacked also to show who is dirty there also.
And with the info from the leaks being released by wiki, it makes me believe that it probably wasn't the Russians, but an insider. If the Russians had the info they could have used it to blackmail the already corrupt leadership. That would have been interference.
That was the Russian goal. They believed she would win and wanted to use the information obtained from Hildebitch's bathroom unsecured server to put pressure on (control) her.
No it doesn't. The wrong candidate won more votes and almost won the electoral college. All the Democrats need is the right candidate who can take the right message to the American voter. Similar to how Obama did in 2008 and 2012.
And btw, Republicans play identity politics as well.
I said in my post that it was irrelevant!
And yes, all states are the United States. And our system is such to protect ALL states and not allow the bigger states (CA and NY) to control everyone else.
I am not sure Warren will be the nominee in 2020. Maybe the VP nominee.
She would be a good choice though if she won the presidential nomination, but there are other possibilities as well.
Wrong again.
Most of the late polls showed Clinton winning the popular vote anywhere from 1% to 4%. The RCP average had Clinton winning the popular vote by 3.2%. She won by 2.1%. Well within the margin of error. Rather accurate.
And we all know that if Trump's approval ratings were high, you all would be talking about it. They aren't, and so you try to ignore them.
Uh, ok, sure. Hillary got trounced in the electoral college, especially considering Trump had no path to 270. Your line of thinking is exactly why Democrats lost to Trump. The right candidate has to take the right message to the people, I agree. The Dems don't have the right message though. The right candidate with the current message won't win.
That isn't why we have the electoral college. It is a nice talking point, but it isn't what the electoral college does.
its a fact just like the New York mets had zero birdies at this years masters.
You don't regret telling him.
She did not get trounced in the electoral college. She lost by 77 votes. That isn't a trouncing.
Keep trying.
Lol. This isn't difficult dude. You're just making it difficult. You clearly care about polls. I don't. Never have.
Regarding polls and the election, you can't rewrite history. Every major poll except the LA Times and Rasmussen had Hillary winning. You can go back and look at the electoral predictions yourself.
How did the most qualified candidate in history suddenly become flawed?
Yes, and those polls you keep talking about measured the popular vote! They were nationwide polls. And Clinton won the popular vote by the amount those polls said she would. Approval rating polls are also nationwide polls.
State polls though showed more trouble for Clinton and that is why Clinton's campaign was in the states they were at the end (she finished, for example, in PA).
You are right, this isn't that hard to understand.
Being qualified is one thing. Have significant electoral flaws is another thing.
Try to actually read what I post instead of assuming what I am trying to say. Just because I am a liberal doesn't mean you have to automatically disagree with me.
WE NEED A PRESIDENT THAT WORRIES ABOUT HIS APPROVAL RATING DANG IT!!!
Its not about doing what is necessary, its about your popularity.
She lost by 77 to Trump. In an election he couldn't win, yes, that is a trouncing whether you admit it or not.
You were all in for Hillary winning back in October. Plenty of us saw her as being flawed and unelectable from the beginning. What changed for you? Serious question.
Yes, because even with her flaws and even though I disagreed with her on some issues, she was a better choice than Trump.
But I knew even then she was a flawed candidate. And I would have preferred Sanders over her. Nothing has changed my opinion in that regard.
And who is Clinton Scott?
No it is not. Take a look at the 1964 presidential election. Or 1972, 1980, 1984.
Trump barely won man. That is why he had no political mandate.
But he did win. There you have it. Does he need a "political mandate?" He's the f'in President now.
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