Thoughts on Trumps ban on Muslims entering US
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Isn't it simply a ban on people from certain countries? Wouldn't a Muslim from Any other country be permitted to enter? Maybe I misunderstand.
It would be if that is what he called for.
Fake news.
Fake news.
I couldn't care less about any policy being offensive. If it's unconstitutional then it shouldn't be allowed.
What about this. If you are black and POTUS then you are above being questioned. Some of you smart human beings need to research this shit before come here and acting like us conservatives are racist humans who have no compassion. I love how it went from blame Bush on everything to blame Trump. How about this go home and pray to what ever god you pray to and wish that this POTUS is successful and improves this country and world rather then listen to a self serving media.
Was it offensive and unconstitutional when Obama banned all Venezuelans?
What rights do people have under our constitution that are not citizens to have a right to freely cross our border? If we were at war with Russia, would we allow Russians to immigrate here, even with extreme vetting?
We are at war with terrorism with an enemy that does not identify itself as an enemy under the Geneva conventions. We have every right to not allow them in and to allow the U.S. to do background checks on those here and do extreme vetting when they decide to allow them back in.
The rights and safety of current U.S citizens supercedes those of any foreign nationals. If these countries want better immigration to the U.S. they need to help the U.S. root out terrorist strongholds in their country and defeat them.
Long over due. If we were to reach the point we had bombings once a week killing innocent men and women in this country, the libs would be the first ones blaming Trump for not providing security. We were slowly headed to weekly bombings or shootings in this country, we can not even clean up chicago and we think we can control the immigration of thugs to this country once they are here? The best defense is prevention, this was long over due, the constitution never intended for our country to become the day care center for the world and restrict the rights of citizens born here and paying taxes for decades and all of their life.
We the peoole is for the US, not the entire world.
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Listen to these interviews with Somali immigrants in Minneapolis.
Note their views on:
- Free speech
- Women's rights
- Whether it's justified to lash out against those who insult the prophet M
- Whether they would rather live in the US or Somalia
We are paying and subsidizing these people to live here (they contribute next to nothing to our economic vitality).
The only American group who benefits from third world Muslim refugees is Democrat politicians (who get their votes for providing them welfare).
The immigration act of 1965 was one of the worst ideas in American history (note that it happened around the exact same time that the war on poverty was introduced --- another monumental catastrophe).
Note their views on:
- Free speech
- Women's rights
- Whether it's justified to lash out against those who insult the prophet M
- Whether they would rather live in the US or Somalia
We are paying and subsidizing these people to live here (they contribute next to nothing to our economic vitality).
The only American group who benefits from third world Muslim refugees is Democrat politicians (who get their votes for providing them welfare).
The immigration act of 1965 was one of the worst ideas in American history (note that it happened around the exact same time that the war on poverty was introduced --- another monumental catastrophe).
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Why are people on the left still trying to exaggerate and distort the facts when the facts are readily available for anyone to see?
When it comes to national security who would believe the constitution provides more protection to foreigners and foreign enemies than it does U.S. citizens? Libs want to give our country away.
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I believe Jimmy Carter placed a temporary ban on Iranians (a predominately Muslim country) from entering the US.
I see nothing wrong with Trump doing the same from the 7 countries he named.
I see nothing wrong with Trump doing the same from the 7 countries he named.
Are you being intentionally obtuse or do you really not understand the difference?
I disagree. I'd like to hear his reasoning. I'm not a big Pence guy though.
The EO does not stop muslims, it is targeted towards states breeding and exporting terrorism, some of them might be muslim and some might be christians that went to these countries to be trained as terrorists and to then come back to their home country to bring terror, that has happened. Pence trolling the lib idiots that do not know the difference.
Ok. I understand the OP now. Pence is obviously a hypocrite?
What threw me was the lack of quote citation and the invitation to discussion.
We have a right IMO during war to do what we want, the EO accomplishes what is needed legally. I am going skeet shooting today and those clay's are islamic radical terrorists and I hope to kill everyone of those head decapitation pussies. I know I have that right.
As someone who cares about free speech, gay rights, and women's rights (just like you @hollywood ) --- how is continuing to import people with these views benefitting American taxpayers?
Here's a different opinion:
No, the Constitution Does Not Bar ‘Religious Tests’ in Immigration Law
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...tion-does-not-ban-vetting-immigrants-religion
No, the Constitution Does Not Bar ‘Religious Tests’ in Immigration Law
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...tion-does-not-ban-vetting-immigrants-religion
On a similar topic, I'm enjoying watching progressives defend sanctuary cities with clsims of states rights and local governance vs federal.
A Pensesque flip flop at minimum.
A Pensesque flip flop at minimum.
Here's a thought from Alexander Hamilton.
The survival of the American republic, Hamilton maintained, depends upon “the preservation of a national spirit and a national character.” He asserted: “To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens the moment they put foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.mar...gration-founding-fathers-view-michelle-malkin
The survival of the American republic, Hamilton maintained, depends upon “the preservation of a national spirit and a national character.” He asserted: “To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens the moment they put foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.mar...gration-founding-fathers-view-michelle-malkin
still waiting on OP's link showing Trump signed EO banning Mooslimbs.
I think it's refreshing that we're being proactive in protecting Americans and that's all I view this as.
Imagine that responsibility, +300MM people counting on you for their safety.
If it were my responsibility to protect our people, I'd've done the same thing in the same time frame.
I'm of the opinion that we need to get our house in order before we nanny the world and the middle class can't keep picking up the tab.
Imagine that responsibility, +300MM people counting on you for their safety.
If it were my responsibility to protect our people, I'd've done the same thing in the same time frame.
I'm of the opinion that we need to get our house in order before we nanny the world and the middle class can't keep picking up the tab.
Since when do non-Americans have US Constitutional rights? A Muslim ban and a religious test seems under the purview of the immigration laws and policy as expressly granted to the federal government.
However, it is my understanding of the moratorium that we are suspending accepting any further refugees from any country where we are unable to substantiate their documentation. Those refugees happen to be from mostly Muslim populations. But that's not a ban on Muslims specifically.
However, it is my understanding of the moratorium that we are suspending accepting any further refugees from any country where we are unable to substantiate their documentation. Those refugees happen to be from mostly Muslim populations. But that's not a ban on Muslims specifically.
Jeez @hollywood such low hanging fruit ITT for you to retort to. They're tee'd up, get out your big stick.
Some of our historically more rational libs have the DTs.
How true. Haven't read where we are banning Muslims from Indonesia. the largest Muslim populated country on Earth. The bigger concern is tracking Visas originating from stolen passport machines at US compounds in Syria.
Exactly. I've been to Jakarta. Good people. Of course, there aren't Indonesian refugees that I know of.
And it isn't 'immigration' that is being stopped. It is the 'refugee' program. Two different systems and congratulating the two is a tool to misinform the ignorant.
Lastly, where was the left's complaint when Obama in his last days ended accepting Cuban refugees asking for political asylum? If there was ever a true need to accept refugees in America, it is Cuba.
I think Vice President Pence is wrong on this subject. That was easy.
I was just rustling some jimmies folks, I saw that quote from Pence this morning and just couldn't resist.
