The War In Ukraine Has Rapidly Lost The Interest Of The News Media

[Ponca Dan]

This may be one reason why. The NeoCons of the American security state flub again. At what point will the American people realize what a disaster they have been for our country?

Russia likely to seize control of eastern Ukrainian region within weeks, US official says

The Ukrainian cities of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, in Luhansk, are increasingly under duress and could fall to Russian forces within a week, the official said.

www.stripes.com

 

[2012Bearcat]

No need to wonder why, the outcome was clear before Russia invaded. I will say Ukraine has put up one hell of a fight and they should be proud but they never had a chance. I just hope that because of the actions and lack of action by Biden and the war mongers Ukraine does not hate the US. Seems everytime we get involved in something we only create more enemies.

 

[Corndog2021]

Was all to distract from Killary spy gate and extort more money out of us- nothing more...and pit the country against Russia more

 

[windriverrange]

Never underestimate the resolve and self-sacrifice of people defending their own homes and country. Remember Kiev was supposed to fall within 4-5 days then two weeks, said some of the same "anonymous sources" in the mil intel world. This would be an entirely different discussion if Ukrainians didn't want to fight.

ISW continues to show minor successful counter offenses near Kherson and Kharkiv also. The russian has put all their eggs in the donbas basket, so if they aren't successful there it will become a stalemate. Time favors Ukraine.

Will be a huge mistake to codify any territorial gains by the russian with a peace treaty, because absolutely no one can say with certainty (except putin) if this nonsense stops now or they push on. If the west decides to bail on Ukraine, Taiwan will almost certainly be up next and that will cost US lives.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Never underestimate the resolve and self-sacrifice of people defending their own homes and country. Remember Kiev was supposed to fall within 4-5 days then two weeks, said some of the same "anonymous sources" in the mil intel world. This would be an entirely different discussion if Ukrainians didn't want to fight.

ISW continues to show minor successful counter offenses near Kherson and Kharkiv also. The russian has put all their eggs in the donbas basket, so if they aren't successful there it will become a stalemate. Time favors Ukraine.

Will be a huge mistake to codify any territorial gains by the russian with a peace treaty, because absolutely no one can say with certainty (except putin) if this nonsense stops now or they push on. If the west decides to bail on Ukraine, Taiwan will almost certainly be up next and that will cost US lives.

It's actually a better strategy for Russia to consolidate its efforts into one region. They split their forces before, now they are concentrated again. The outcome is noticeably in Russia's favor. Been reading some reports that Ukrainians are running low on ammunition. If true, that is a dire position to be in. It only takes one unit holding the line to run out and be exploited. Also, that noose is tightening around Eastern Ukrainian forces. Russia is slowly cutting off two more cities and squeezing again. The Russians have also thrown off their boxing gloves and are now brining the full force of their military to bear. Ukrainians are having a harder and harder time trying to hold their ground. Russia's economy should have sunk by now, and it is uncertain at this point if any kind of sanctions will help Ukraine.

With that being said Ukrainians are fighting with the spirit of a tiger. I think Ukraine would be better off fighting a guerrilla war, then a conventional one. They are for now fighting the conventional war. I will admit that I thought this would be over quick, but Russia didn't use the right strategy. I am amazed that Ukrainians are putting up the kind of fight they are, and I have to tip my hat to their dogged defense.

I'm not convinced that time is on Ukraine's side. There are definite cracks in the armor. It may become necessary for Zelensky to sue for peace without the US. I'm not sure even having the backing of the US for peace talks is such a good idea to begin with. If the Donbas Region were on the table, I think Puttin would at least entertain the idea if the US were not involved in the negotiations. It is a war that is still up for grabs for either side.

 

[AC2020]

We've been duped.



But hey, let's write another 50 billion dollar check so we can feel better about ourselves.

 

[windriverrange]

It's actually a better strategy for Russia to consolidate its efforts into one region. They split their forces before, now they are concentrated again. The outcome is noticeably in Russia's favor. Been reading some reports that Ukrainians are running low on ammunition. If true, that is a dire position to be in. It only takes one unit holding the line to run out and be exploited. Also, that noose is tightening around Eastern Ukrainian forces. Russia is slowly cutting off two more cities and squeezing again. The Russians have also thrown off their boxing gloves and are now brining the full force of their military to bear. Ukrainians are having a harder and harder time trying to hold their ground. Russia's economy should have sunk by now, and it is uncertain at this point if any kind of sanctions will help Ukraine.

With that being said Ukrainians are fighting with the spirit of a tiger. I think Ukraine would be better off fighting a guerrilla war, then a conventional one. They are for now fighting the conventional war. I will admit that I thought this would be over quick, but Russia didn't use the right strategy. I am amazed that Ukrainians are putting up the kind of fight they are, and I have to tip my hat to their dogged defense.

I'm not convinced that time is on Ukraine's side. There are definite cracks in the armor. It may become necessary for Zelensky to sue for peace without the US. I'm not sure even having the backing of the US for peace talks is such a good idea to begin with. If the Donbas Region were on the table, I think Puttin would at least entertain the idea if the US were not involved in the negotiations. It is a war that is still up for grabs for either side.

I always thought the "sanctions" weapon was overblown as long as they can sell oil and gas, especially at today's prices. Agree right now and for all intents and purposes the scaled have tipped in russian favor. I still think time works better for the Ukrainians as at some point offensive capabilities on a wider front will be almost impossible to maintain. Part of me is still holding out hope that someone smokes putin as well.

Read today, that some of the $40 billion in US military aid is stretched out until 2031....good grief. One group I'm super pissed at right now is the Israelis. If it weren't for many other nations around supplying them with arms and money they wouldn't probably exist, yet they are dead set against letting any of their arms go to Ukraine. The germans are just rat bastards in my opinion......yes we'll give tanks, okay no we won't, okay Spain can give them german tanks, well no we won't give Spain permission to export the Leopards blah blah blah. Duplicitous turds.

Agree that the partisan efforts will have to be stepped up, including assassinating appointed bolshevik officials in conquered territory. Mining roads, bridges, hitting rear supply areas and taking out as many of those bastards as possible.

The Ukrainians need to contest every piece of ground they can. If not, they will end up losing the whole coast of the Black Sea with russian forming a land bridge to Transnistria which really beings to pave the way for all of Ukraine to be invaded. It will also inperil Moldova (how that neutrality working out folks) and Romania and maybe even Bulgaria.

Currently no one I know there fighting is ready to give any more territory away. Talked with a gal I know this morning who has lost two friends around Kharkiv they understand there is no negotiating with putin or someone worse then him later.

The question I really want the experts to answer is when/where will putin stop if he takes the donbas? If that can't be answered then the world should be showering Ukraine with weapons. If this turns into a NATO event, you can bet the majority of casualties, from a combat standpoint, will be Americans and I know no one on this board is in favor of that.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

The question I really want the experts to answer is when/where will putin stop if he takes the donbas? If that can't be answered then the world should be showering Ukraine with weapons. If this turns into a NATO event, you can bet the majority of casualties, from a combat standpoint, will be Americans and I know no one on this board is in favor of that.

I don't think you can answer that without talking to Puttin, and if you are unwilling to go to the table then you will definitely be left in the dark. I personally think you go to the table just to see what he wants, and then use that against him.

As far as NATO is concerned, I'm not convinced this administration will honor it's commitments to NATO or Taiwan for that matter. They talk a big game, but name one thing they have been truthful about. If I were a foreign power I'm seriously considering that the US is not telling the truth about their overseas commitments.

 

[2012Bearcat]

With Biden in charge was there any doubt this would be just another in a long list of failures?

 

[Ponca Dan]

I always thought the "sanctions" weapon was overblown as long as they can oil and gas, especially at today's prices. Agree right now and for all intents and purposes the scaled have tipped in russian favor. I still think time works better for the Ukrainians as at some point offensive capabilities on a wider front will be almost impossible to maintain. Part of me is still holding out hope that someone smokes putin as well.

Read today, that some of the $40 billion in US military aid is stretched out until 2031....good grief. One group I'm super pissed at right now is the Israelis. If it weren't for many other nations around supplying them with arms and money they wouldn't probably exist, yet they are dead set against letting any of their arms go to Ukraine. The germans are just rat bastards in my opinion......yes we'll give tanks, okay no we won't, okay Spain can give them german tanks, well no we won't give Spain permission to export the Leopards blah blah blah. Duplicitous turds.

Agree that the partisan efforts will have to be stepped up, including assassinating appointed bolshevik officials in conquered territory. Mining roads, bridges, hitting rear supply areas and taking out as many of those bastards as possible.

The Ukrainians need to contest every piece of ground they can. If not, they will end up losing the whole coast of the Black Sea with russian forming a land bridge to Transnistria which really beings to pave the way for all of Ukraine to be invaded. It will also inperil Moldova (how that neutrality working out folks) and Romania and maybe even Bulgaria.

Currently no one I know there fighting is ready to give any more territory away. Talked with a gal I know this morning who has lost two friends around Kharkiv they understand there is no negotiating with putin or someone worse then him later.

The question I really want the experts to answer is when/where will putin stop if he takes the donbas? If that can't be answered then the world should be showering Ukraine with weapons. If this turns into a NATO event, you can bet the majority of casualties, from a combat standpoint, will be Americans and I know no one on this board is in favor of that.

This is strictly conjecture on my part, but I think Putin has already answrered that question. He wants his border with Ukraine to be secure and stable, with a buffer zone in the eastern part of Ukraine, the predominatly Russian speaking part of the country, which also lives lives of a predominately Russian culture. He made it clear he was satisfied with the Minsk agreements, which the Ukrainian governemt violated almost before the ink had dried, fomenting a civl war of sorts between the east and west. The Swiss NATO inspector charged with finding if Russia was suppling arms to the Donbas rebels stating very publicly he could find no evidence. It was not until Ukraine, at the behest of the US government, began to push for NATO admission that Putin rose up and said he would not allow that to happen. I personally don't think Putin/Russia want any more than a secure border, I think he/they know they do not have the economic capability or the industrial capabilty to match the west in a war.

As for the war itself I do not think Putin or any Russian military strategist ever said they could take Kiev in a few days or weeks, certainly not with the small amount of troops they utilized the the tank convoy. I think that was misinformation/propaganda put out by Ukraine and the west that served two purposes. First it gave the west an opportunity to tell the world Ukraine was kicking ass, and second it steeled the resolve of the people being invaded. I thought at the time, and continue to think that was nothing more than a feint to force Ukraine to keep reinforcements away from the area Russia was really after, the east. I've read a little about the different styles of warfare between the West (the USA) and Russia, The West utilizes overwhelming air power as its primary means of victory, with the expectation the enemy will buckle very quickly. It worked like magic in Iraq, but hasn't had as much success in other theaters. Russia uses artillary, ground and pound and advance slowly. If that analysis has any validity it explains why it has taken Russia longer than western analysts had predicted.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

The war with ukraine and russia did fizzle faster than the news media's infatuation with that knucklehead fauci. 👍

 

[OKSTATE1]

I always thought the "sanctions" weapon was overblown as long as they can sell oil and gas, especially at today's prices. Agree right now and for all intents and purposes the scaled have tipped in russian favor. I still think time works better for the Ukrainians as at some point offensive capabilities on a wider front will be almost impossible to maintain. Part of me is still holding out hope that someone smokes putin as well.

Read today, that some of the $40 billion in US military aid is stretched out until 2031....good grief. One group I'm super pissed at right now is the Israelis. If it weren't for many other nations around supplying them with arms and money they wouldn't probably exist, yet they are dead set against letting any of their arms go to Ukraine. The germans are just rat bastards in my opinion......yes we'll give tanks, okay no we won't, okay Spain can give them german tanks, well no we won't give Spain permission to export the Leopards blah blah blah. Duplicitous turds.

Agree that the partisan efforts will have to be stepped up, including assassinating appointed bolshevik officials in conquered territory. Mining roads, bridges, hitting rear supply areas and taking out as many of those bastards as possible.

The Ukrainians need to contest every piece of ground they can. If not, they will end up losing the whole coast of the Black Sea with russian forming a land bridge to Transnistria which really beings to pave the way for all of Ukraine to be invaded. It will also inperil Moldova (how that neutrality working out folks) and Romania and maybe even Bulgaria.

Currently no one I know there fighting is ready to give any more territory away. Talked with a gal I know this morning who has lost two friends around Kharkiv they understand there is no negotiating with putin or someone worse then him later.

The question I really want the experts to answer is when/where will putin stop if he takes the donbas? If that can't be answered then the world should be showering Ukraine with weapons. If this turns into a NATO event, you can bet the majority of casualties, from a combat standpoint, will be Americans and I know no one on this board is in favor of that.

The only German I have ever had to deal in business dealings with (this is someone who was born in Germany and lives in Germany) is a lying in it for himself POS. Lie, lies, and more lies. Have no idea what they are really like because that is a small sample size, but I don't forget how Volkswagen cheated on its emissions to obtain those silly MPG ratings. My brother who is now retired, worked in the automobile industry all his life and he told me repeatedly the Germans had to be cheating on their emissions, he said Germany had nothing on US auto car manufacturers when it came to engine technology. When this all came out he reminded me about our conversations.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

The only German I have ever had to deal in business dealings with (this is someone who was born in Germany and lives in Germany) is a lying in it for himself POS. Lie, lies, and more lies. Have no idea what they are really like because that is a small sample size, but I don't forget how Volkswagen cheated on its emissions to obtain those silly MPG ratings. My brother who is now retired, worked in the automobile industry all his life and he told me repeatedly the Germans had to be cheating on their emissions, he said Germany had nothing on US auto car manufacturers when it came to engine technology. When this all came out he reminded me about our conversations.

Older daughter drives Mercedes. Older daughter has money, so she doesn't have to use the World Bank to keep her Merc fleet road worthy.

She drove a Chevy Suburban for 171,000 miles. A left front wheel bearing failed right before she sold it. Carquest delivered a bearing to her truck stop and a mechanic installed it for peanuts. When her first Mercedes left front wheel bearing failed at 41,000 miles, Steakly Bro, Mercedes charged her a mint. She's never owned a Merc anywhere near the quality of her "cheap, junky" American Suburban.

I'm no fan of German engineering. Younger daughter's VW Passat is a whole 'nother story.

 

[JimmyBob]

I'm no fan of German engineering.

As the owner of a 36 yr. old Porsche 944 with over 300k miles, I'll throw the red flag on this one.

(BTW, it just happens to be guards red).

 

[iasooner2000]

There are some exceptions of course

 

[windriverrange]

This is strictly conjecture on my part, but I think Putin has already answrered that question. He wants his border with Ukraine to be secure and stable, with a buffer zone in the eastern part of Ukraine, the predominatly Russian speaking part of the country, which also lives lives of a predominately Russian culture. He made it clear he was satisfied with the Minsk agreements, which the Ukrainian governemt violated almost before the ink had dried, fomenting a civl war of sorts between the east and west. The Swiss NATO inspector charged with finding if Russia was suppling arms to the Donbas rebels stating very publicly he could find no evidence. It was not until Ukraine, at the behest of the US government, began to push for NATO admission that Putin rose up and said he would not allow that to happen. I personally don't think Putin/Russia want any more than a secure border, I think he/they know they do not have the economic capability or the industrial capabilty to match the west in a war.

As for the war itself I do not think Putin or any Russian military strategist ever said they could take Kiev in a few days or weeks, certainly not with the small amount of troops they utilized the the tank convoy. I think that was misinformation/propaganda put out by Ukraine and the west that served two purposes. First it gave the west an opportunity to tell the world Ukraine was kicking ass, and second it steeled the resolve of the people being invaded. I thought at the time, and continue to think that was nothing more than a feint to force Ukraine to keep reinforcements away from the area Russia was really after, the east. I've read a little about the different styles of warfare between the West (the USA) and Russia, The West utilizes overwhelming air power as its primary means of victory, with the expectation the enemy will buckle very quickly. It worked like magic in Iraq, but hasn't had as much success in other theaters. Russia uses artillary, ground and pound and advance slowly. If that analysis has any validity it explains why it has taken Russia longer than western analysts had predicted.

PD, as I always say you and I are going to disagree all the way here. But I will point out one falsehood in your comments above.

The ground to air missile that shot down the Malaysian flight was indeed a russian supplied piece of equipment. Many of the "volunteers" fighting for the break away republics are russian soldiers, again this is known. Who do you think the "russian Peacekeepers" were? They weren't civil servants from the Luhansk and Donetsk.

As far as the Minsk accords, do they supplant the Budapest Agreement in 1994? The two biggest forces in the Minsk accords were France and Germany...enough said. As with the EU those are the two most self serving groups of pacifists on the planet and I can assure you they had as much an eye to their own interests as those of Ukraine.

The whole pre-text for the invasion in 2014 had nothing to do with a buffer zone or even NATO, but again we'll just disagree. The attached articles do a nice job of explaining the turnaround and what led to the 2014 invasion. If you believe that then watch what happens when Lukashenka (Belarus) is overthrown by pro-democratic forces. Think putin will be content with that?

I think those speaking for "russian" speakers as though they are a monolithic force in the occupied territories is a bit presumptive as well. Everyone in the old USSR spoke russian and those areas (including crimea) were given back to Ukraine over 3 generations ago. So to claim that they "belong" to a russian heritage therefore rule is just silly.

Do you by chance have a link to the Swiss NATO inspector article? I can't seem to find anything about this.

I do hope that everyone who thinks once putin gets his buffer zone he will stop is/are right. If not, then like many times in history previous appeasement failed and you can definitely say hello to World War III.

War in Ukraine | Global Conflict Tracker

Learn about the world's top hotspots with this interactive Global Conflict Tracker from the Center for Preventive Action at the Council on Foreign Relations.

www.cfr.org

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

This is a link

Ukraine crisis: What are the Minsk agreements and how Putin has been accused of ending the process

The Ukrainian government views them as a means to reunite Ukraine, but the Kremlin believes that the accords enshrine a process that would see a Russia-aligned administration in Luhansk and Donetsk and a special status granted to them before they are reunited with the rest of Ukraine.

news.sky.com

ANTONY BEEVOR: Why the horror in Ukraine was all too predictable

ANTONY BEEVOR: No country is as much a prisoner of its past as Russia. And no leader has become as much a victim of his own obsessive lies as Vladimir Putin.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Ponca Dan]

PD, as I always say you and I are going to disagree all the way here. But I will point out one falsehood in your comments above.

The ground to air missile that shot down the Malaysian flight was indeed a russian supplied piece of equipment. Many of the "volunteers" fighting for the break away republics are russian soldiers, again this is known. Who do you think the "russian Peacekeepers" were? They weren't civil servants from the Luhansk and Donetsk.

As far as the Minsk accords, do they supplant the Budapest Agreement in 1994? The two biggest forces in the Minsk accords were France and Germany...enough said. As with the EU those are the two most self serving groups of pacifists on the planet and I can assure you they had as much an eye to their own interests as those of Ukraine.

The whole pre-text for the invasion in 2014 had nothing to do with a buffer zone or even NATO, but again we'll just disagree. The attached articles do a nice job of explaining the turnaround and what led to the 2014 invasion. If you believe that then watch what happens when Lukashenka (Belarus) is overthrown by pro-democratic forces. Think putin will be content with that?

I think those speaking for "russian" speakers as though they are a monolithic force in the occupied territories is a bit presumptive as well. Everyone in the old USSR spoke russian and those areas (including crimea) were given back to Ukraine over 3 generations ago. So to claim that they "belong" to a russian heritage therefore rule is just silly.

Do you by chance have a link to the Swiss NATO inspector article? I can't seem to find anything about this.

I do hope that everyone who thinks once putin gets his buffer zone he will stop is/are right. If not, then like many times in history previous appeasement failed and you can definitely say hello to World War III.

War in Ukraine | Global Conflict Tracker

Learn about the world's top hotspots with this interactive Global Conflict Tracker from the Center for Preventive Action at the Council on Foreign Relations.

www.cfr.org

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

This is a link

Ukraine crisis: What are the Minsk agreements and how Putin has been accused of ending the process

The Ukrainian government views them as a means to reunite Ukraine, but the Kremlin believes that the accords enshrine a process that would see a Russia-aligned administration in Luhansk and Donetsk and a special status granted to them before they are reunited with the rest of Ukraine.

news.sky.com

ANTONY BEEVOR: Why the horror in Ukraine was all too predictable

ANTONY BEEVOR: No country is as much a prisoner of its past as Russia. And no leader has become as much a victim of his own obsessive lies as Vladimir Putin.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This is where I saw him the first time. I believe he’s been interviewed in several places.

 

[Ponca Dan]

This is where I saw him the first time. I believe he’s been interviewed in several places.

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Former NATO Military Analyst Blows the Whistle on West’s Ukraine Invasion Narrative

Jacques Baud, a NATO expert, denounces western coverage of the Ukraine invasion.

scheerpost.com

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

There are some exceptions of course

I know 2 women who owned Porsche for about 15 minutes. One visited Maynard Phillips Chrysler-Plymouth-Toyota service dept. regularly because we have no Porsche dealer. Seems she was always waiting for a part. The other couldn't afford payments. I heard of no reliability problems.

 

[windriverrange]

PD appreciate the article.....really not much I haven't read before except that it is almost a complete exoneration of why russia invaded a sovereign country.

This passage stuck out to me as one of a number that were his "opinion" but not known as fact;

"The idea that Russia is trying to take over Kiev, the capital, to eliminate Zelensky, typically comes from the West: this is what they did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and what they wanted to do in Syria with the help of the Islamic State . But Vladimir Putin never intended to take down or overthrow Zelensky. On the contrary, Russia seeks to keep him in power by pushing him to negotiate by encircling kyiv. He had refused to do so far to apply the Minsk Accords, but now the Russians want to obtain Ukraine’s neutrality."

I think it is quite laughable to assume the movements on Kiev were to push VZ to the negotiating table, especially when it turned into a military disaster subsequently abandoned.

As far as violations of the "minsk" accords surely one isn't suppose to believe that nearly every violation was by Ukraine?

He denies Russian military killings of civilians in Bucha. Also, in his opinion, it is necessary to fight against Nazism in Ukraine. A month after the start of a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, terrible facts about war crimes by the Russian military began to be revealed. In this regard, the statements of Jacques Baud look very surprising.

How Accurate is Jacques Baud's Analysis of the War in Ukraine? – The Daily Sceptic

Retired Swiss intelligence officer Jacques Baud is often cited as a reliable source about what's really going on in Ukraine. (Putin was provoked, the Ukrainian military is full of Nazis, etc.) But how reliable is he?

dailysceptic.org

"It’s worth noting here that the coalition of ‘far-right’ political parties garnered only 315,568 votes in the 2019 parliamentary elections in Ukraine (2.2% of votes cast, 0.9% of registered voters), gaining a total of one seat for the leader of Svoboda, whose paramilitary Sich Battalion has a total of 50 members. The threat from the Ukrainian far-right is not zero, but even if one doesn’t consider Putin himself to be the arch ultra-nationalist, we should bear in mind that Russia has its own far-right problems, and ironically the founder (and still apparently the leader) of the Wagner Group, which was sent to assassinate the notably-Jewish Zelenskyy, looks to have Nazi sympathies himself."

I wouldn't be surprised if he is an asset for the russian.....time will ultimately tell though.

 

[Corndog2021]

PD appreciate the article.....really not much I haven't read before except that it is almost a complete exoneration of why russia invaded a sovereign country.

This passage stuck out to me as one of a number that were his "opinion" but not known as fact;

"The idea that Russia is trying to take over Kiev, the capital, to eliminate Zelensky, typically comes from the West: this is what they did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and what they wanted to do in Syria with the help of the Islamic State . But Vladimir Putin never intended to take down or overthrow Zelensky. On the contrary, Russia seeks to keep him in power by pushing him to negotiate by encircling kyiv. He had refused to do so far to apply the Minsk Accords, but now the Russians want to obtain Ukraine’s neutrality."

I think it is quite laughable to assume the movements on Kiev were to push VZ to the negotiating table, especially when it turned into a military disaster subsequently abandoned.

As far as violations of the "minsk" accords surely one isn't suppose to believe that nearly every violation was by Ukraine?

He denies Russian military killings of civilians in Bucha. Also, in his opinion, it is necessary to fight against Nazism in Ukraine. A month after the start of a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, terrible facts about war crimes by the Russian military began to be revealed. In this regard, the statements of Jacques Baud look very surprising.

How Accurate is Jacques Baud's Analysis of the War in Ukraine? – The Daily Sceptic

Retired Swiss intelligence officer Jacques Baud is often cited as a reliable source about what's really going on in Ukraine. (Putin was provoked, the Ukrainian military is full of Nazis, etc.) But how reliable is he?

dailysceptic.org

"It’s worth noting here that the coalition of ‘far-right’ political parties garnered only 315,568 votes in the 2019 parliamentary elections in Ukraine (2.2% of votes cast, 0.9% of registered voters), gaining a total of one seat for the leader of Svoboda, whose paramilitary Sich Battalion has a total of 50 members. The threat from the Ukrainian far-right is not zero, but even if one doesn’t consider Putin himself to be the arch ultra-nationalist, we should bear in mind that Russia has its own far-right problems, and ironically the founder (and still apparently the leader) of the Wagner Group, which was sent to assassinate the notably-Jewish Zelenskyy, looks to have Nazi sympathies himself."

I wouldn't be surprised if he is an asset for the russian.....time will ultimately tell though.

Azov and Zelensky have been killing their own citizens for years - especially since the early teens when our great country took out the Ukraine leader bc he got along all too well with Russia - who likes their sovereignty and are against a one world government. To still blame Russia for Ukraine military killing their own citizens is laughable.

 

[Corndog2021]

PD appreciate the article.....really not much I haven't read before except that it is almost a complete exoneration of why russia invaded a sovereign country.

This passage stuck out to me as one of a number that were his "opinion" but not known as fact;

"The idea that Russia is trying to take over Kiev, the capital, to eliminate Zelensky, typically comes from the West: this is what they did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and what they wanted to do in Syria with the help of the Islamic State . But Vladimir Putin never intended to take down or overthrow Zelensky. On the contrary, Russia seeks to keep him in power by pushing him to negotiate by encircling kyiv. He had refused to do so far to apply the Minsk Accords, but now the Russians want to obtain Ukraine’s neutrality."

I think it is quite laughable to assume the movements on Kiev were to push VZ to the negotiating table, especially when it turned into a military disaster subsequently abandoned.

As far as violations of the "minsk" accords surely one isn't suppose to believe that nearly every violation was by Ukraine?

He denies Russian military killings of civilians in Bucha. Also, in his opinion, it is necessary to fight against Nazism in Ukraine. A month after the start of a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, terrible facts about war crimes by the Russian military began to be revealed. In this regard, the statements of Jacques Baud look very surprising.

How Accurate is Jacques Baud's Analysis of the War in Ukraine? – The Daily Sceptic

Retired Swiss intelligence officer Jacques Baud is often cited as a reliable source about what's really going on in Ukraine. (Putin was provoked, the Ukrainian military is full of Nazis, etc.) But how reliable is he?

dailysceptic.org

"It’s worth noting here that the coalition of ‘far-right’ political parties garnered only 315,568 votes in the 2019 parliamentary elections in Ukraine (2.2% of votes cast, 0.9% of registered voters), gaining a total of one seat for the leader of Svoboda, whose paramilitary Sich Battalion has a total of 50 members. The threat from the Ukrainian far-right is not zero, but even if one doesn’t consider Putin himself to be the arch ultra-nationalist, we should bear in mind that Russia has its own far-right problems, and ironically the founder (and still apparently the leader) of the Wagner Group, which was sent to assassinate the notably-Jewish Zelenskyy, looks to have Nazi sympathies himself."

I wouldn't be surprised if he is an asset for the russian.....time will ultimately tell though.

I would put more stock in what this ex NATO high up says than most of our corrupt govt and media everyday if the week and 10 x on Sundays