The transgender experiment is over in the military
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Wasn't it Trump who once said if you need viagra you're with the wrong woman.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...atrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...fically-there-is-no-such-thing-as-transgender
"Some times, some of these people have claimed that they are ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’ or alternatively ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’."
"The medical treatment of delusions, psychosis or emotional happiness is not surgery," Dr. Berger stated.
"On the other hand," Dr. Berger continued, "if these people are asked to clarify exactly what they believe, that is to say do they truly believe whichever of those above propositions applies to them and they say ‘no’, then they know that such a proposition is not true, but that they ‘feel’ it, then what we are talking about scientifically, is just unhappiness, and that unhappiness is being accompanied by a wish – that leads some people into taking hormones that predominate in the other sex, and even having cosmetic surgery designed to make them ‘appear’ as if they are a person of the opposite sex."
He explained that cosmetic surgery will not change the chromosomes of a human being in that it will not make a man become a woman, capable of menstruating, ovulating, and having children, nor will it make a woman into a man, capable of generating sperm that can unite with an egg or ovum from a woman and fertilize that egg to produce a human child.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/22/journal-transgenderism-not-supported-by-scientific-evidence/
“Examining research from the biological, psychological, and social sciences, this report shows that some of the most frequently heard claims about sexuality and gender are not supported by scientific evidence,” they noted.
Among the key findings listed by the authors was that, “The hypothesis that gender identity is an innate, fixed property of human beings that is independent of biological sex — that a person might be ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’ or ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’ — is not supported by scientific evidence.”
“Examining research from the biological, psychological, and social sciences, this report shows that some of the most frequently heard claims about sexuality and gender are not supported by scientific evidence,” they noted.
Among the key findings listed by the authors was that, “The hypothesis that gender identity is an innate, fixed property of human beings that is independent of biological sex — that a person might be ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’ or ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’ — is not supported by scientific evidence.”
Probably. He's said a lot of dumb stuff in his lifetime trying to prove how manly he is despite his little babydoll hands.
I do want to apologize to you for being shitty. I always enjoy your posts even when I don't agree with them
I'm familiar with both of those articles. Neither are considered "scientific" by any stretch. Here's something that's actually scientific from 20 years ago.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1024517302481?LI=true
Can we get our money back from Bradley...err...Chelsea Manning? How much longer is her prison sentence?
Same guy from the CNS News article you posted. Using "trapped in another sex body" is about as outdated as the horse and buggy.
https://extras.denverpost.com/transgender/docs/apa-guidelines-transgender.pdf
I'm really looking for evidence to support your claim that being transgender is a mental illness similar to the ones that can keep you from owning guns, from this post:
That's what I am refuting. Dialogue about hormone therapy, surgery, and whether or not transgender identifying youth continue to identify as transgender in adulthood are all different conversations.
Exactly. Sys will tell you straight out the BHO played everything close to the vest.
I'm guessing that there were 10's of thousand of fighting men in WW2 that believed in God and served courageously and expertly well.
But, that probably isn't any kind of proof.
Huh? There were probably many millions of men who served in WW2 that believed in god. I've got zero issues with anyone who believes in god. What does that have to do with claiming that transgender people shouldn't serve in the military because of guns?
You brought up people that believe in god as having suspect mental conditions. Did you not?
I say stop the viagra but give them testosterone to keep them physically prepared to kill in combat. That will help put more lead in their pencils but provides a military benefit.
I also don't think people with psoriasis, Down syndrome, or aposthia are mentally ill. For the record.
Also for the record, religious beliefs have led to the killing and suffering of many people over multiple millennia. Transgender folks don't have that kind of record.
Here is the bottom line of why this kind of goofy experimentation is a bad idea:
Because the freaks upset the order and readiness of the troops/soldiers/sailors/airmen that are trained to complete a mission. Those in the heat of battle have zero desire to have to deal with a dude that thinks he's a woman or a woman that thinks she's a dude. Plain n simple.
Because the freaks upset the order and readiness of the troops/soldiers/sailors/airmen that are trained to complete a mission. Those in the heat of battle have zero desire to have to deal with a dude that thinks he's a woman or a woman that thinks she's a dude. Plain n simple.
The military does not allow several types of people in because there presence would affect combat readiness: flat feet, people with peanut allergies ... all kinds of things. This is but another matter that though they might be accepted by idiots in modern American society, would be counterproductive in the heat of battle.
Yeah - cause in a fire fight you don't want to be wandering why that person next to you thinks they look good in heels.
Smoke screen, diversion, nothing burger.
Wait, they are bad asses after all. Sign up more of 'em!
So, your opposition to transgenders in the military isn't because you believe that transgender people are mentally ill to the point they shouldn't have firearms? You really believe that transgenders are a distraction that can decrease combat readiness and effectiveness?
Although I strongly disagree, I can empathize with what you just posted as a legitimate concern in your view.
Does this mean Goons and Pokes can't serve together too? I mean it can get a bit chippy around Bedlam time...
Would you agree with me that transgenders should be allowed into the military (if they so foolishly want to), but the taxpayers should not be forced to pay for the surgeries that make them transgendered?
100%. I don't see that kind of surgery as anything different than breast or butt cheek implants or liposuction. If it isn't for a life or limb sustaining purpose, I don't view it as something I should be paying for.
Surgery doesn't make them transgendered though. It only alters physical features. Probably just semantics, but I'm covering that base since I'm agreeing 100%.
It's a legitimate concern that they're already abnormally suicidal. There are enough problems in the battle zone without having to deal with a statistically unstable class of people.
In the past our government couldn't discern between transgenders joining and paying for the change of someone who joined. Liberalism 101 is start small and let it evolve into what you really want. Better to not let it start.
