Teachers Strike...No School Monday
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Any teacher that walks out Monday should be fired.
If you don't agree with your pay, don't sign an employment contract. You sign it, hold up your end.
If you don't agree with your pay, don't sign an employment contract. You sign it, hold up your end.
Poor brt, doesn't realize that tag agencies, that administer all tags, taxes and licenses associated with motor vehicles in the state of OK, are privately owned businesses.
Problem is many of the school districts are LOCKING OUT non-union good teachers and shutting down school. There are many teachers that don’t want to abdicate their responsibility. It it time to realize we have many school board members that have NO leadership.
Teachers unions deserve their bad press, but I believe focus should be on the school board members and superintendents.
It's about funding above all, beyond teacher pay.
And districts already struggle to fill positions. They literally can't fire them, because there isn't anyone to replace them.
We spend more money on education than any country on earth. Stop this nonsense about it being about funding.
My wife and sister in law are teachers at the same school and are walking out. Contracts are signed for a certain number of hours they are to work. Our school has eight days they can be out and still fulfill their contract. Several schools are in the same situation. I guess you are wanting my wife and sister in law to get fired because they are not going to work those extra eight days they are not getting paid for anyway?
Serious question. How does their contract specify their pay? Is it hourly weekly, bi-weekly, monthly, 9 weeks, semester or annually??? I have no idea how they are specified.
I'm paid hourly with a monthly bonus based on sales, but I am also expected to work 49 weeks a year with an additional week available for sick leave.
It is for the current school year. Most schools have built in extra hours for snow days. Our Super has always gone overboard on the number of snow days built in. I don't know the exact number of hours they are suppose to work to fulfill the year.
OKCPS contract is available on line.
Their contract is for ~181 days and they receive 1 day per calendar month for sick leave, accumulating up to 201 days of sick leave.
Their contract is for ~181 days and they receive 1 day per calendar month for sick leave, accumulating up to 201 days of sick leave.
How it actually works is that schools must be in operation for a set amount of days to receive funding from the state and federal governments. That numbers is padded by a number of days to account for snow days, etc.
Teachers typically sign a contract for 181-190 days, with personnel that have additional duties signing for up to say 240.
Have no idea of where this concept of working for free just because they have snow days left comes from.
And as far as tough talk goes, that's exactly what teachers are doing by screwing over families where both parents work come Monday. What exactly are they supposed to do when all the teachers walk out?
Teachers typically sign a contract for 181-190 days, with personnel that have additional duties signing for up to say 240.
Have no idea of where this concept of working for free just because they have snow days left comes from.
And as far as tough talk goes, that's exactly what teachers are doing by screwing over families where both parents work come Monday. What exactly are they supposed to do when all the teachers walk out?
You are saying the teachers are not fulfilling their contract. Their contract is for a certain number of hours. If they work the specified number of hours then they have fulfilled their contract. When they work over that number of hours they are working for free. Why is that so hard to understand? Some schools start taking fridays off after spring break because they have extra days. Our school does not do that. They are working more hours than their contract calls for. I know it is hard for some parents to find someone to watch their kids, but it is ultimately the parents responsibility to take care of their own kids.
In Bartlesville the school board actually called off school on Monday so the teachers could march on the capitol. The teachers aren't violating anything here. I suspect it is a similar situation in other districts.
The question is whether the school board has the authority if it places a burden on the community at large
so that’s what the beef is about
parents having to take care of their kids...
parents can call their reps
hold those do-nothings accountable
Didn't you know? It's not the parents responsibility to take care of their own kids.
Of course they have the authority. They were elected by that community at large to make those decisions.
The boards authority is codified by federal, state, and local laws. Elections have nothing whatsoever to do with it.
We going to classify this as tough talk as well? Marginalizing parents for teachers' choices?
Well let's see, I think parents should be responsible for their own kids. You think teachers should be fired even though they are fulfilling their contracts. I guess if you think that is tough talk so be it.
They have the authority to say when school is and is not in session as long as it meets the requirements below. Saturday school doesn't count towards that total.
https://www.ossba.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/2016-School-Law-book.pdf
Haven't read the entire thread, but YES, this is a national Story.
Also, I'm a former public school teacher in Oklahoma...just two years...to be fair. I also taught six years of public school in California. I no longer teach.
Oklahoma is seen as a joke right now...just like Kansas. (Granted, I may be poisoned by the left coast.)
Conservatives got their dream, and it doesn't work. Trickle down, bend over for corporate America is ****ing BS. (BTW, I'm a proponent of Capitalism.) Seriously, do you think low taxes are going to lure big time corporations when all their employees would be horrified to move there? They are like, "I don't want to live in a backasswards state and have my kids grow up there." Is that fair?...I don't know. I grew up in Oklahoma public schools and did pretty well for myself, but that's the perception.
And look at the difference between North Dakota and my old home state. ND relies on petroleum, and it seems to be doing pretty well. Why can't OK follow the same model?
https://www.economist.com/news/unit...t-cuts-are-driving-schools-brink-whats-matter
Go ahead and do it.
Sounds like a Trump threat.
I ain't signing the trillion dollar spending bill...fast-forward...two hours later...ok, I'll sign it anyway... cause I'm a ****ing pussy, lying, ignorant, thin-skinned dumbass.
Fiscal Conservatives, when Obama is President, deficits = Evil. When Trump Daniels is President = it's ok...run it up. Democrats will clean up our mess & we'll blame them. Now, let's pass a balanced budget amendment or something. It's a ****ing Joke...but whatever.
The cognitive dissonance is awe-inspiring.
I’d say 10-4 to that.
Yes, I’m sure Oklahoma’s education mess is the reason Amazon didn’t locate here. Get real.
He said no such thing. You know it, I know it, everyone on here knows it. I understand your emotional attachment to this issue but there’s no reason to make up shit.
I heard that the DFW metroplex was considering leaving Texas and becoming Oklahoma's newest counties but the education thing was a deal breaker.
In all fairness there were a lot of conservative people pissed that he signed it.
Since it's funded for one year, it's more a bonus, not a raise. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your ignorance.
Meanwhile in the private sector, raises and pay largely aren't contractually agreed upon and can go back down the next year. Sometimes in the same year if business starts dropping off.
But hey, it's not about teacher pay.
