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Franken is a douche and I love seeing him get embarrassed but this is getting silly. If this happened and if it was unwelcome, it should’ve been handled on the spot directly - not through reaching out to cnn years later.

Ass grabbing (both ways) in fan pics is common beyond belief. There’s no end to the number of people that could claim this of someone.

And just not a big deal. A better story would be if the husband punched him for grabbing his wife’s ass, or if she had slapped him for it.
 
Franken is a douche and I love seeing him get embarrassed but this is getting silly. If this happened and if it was unwelcome, it should’ve been handled on the spot directly - not through reaching out to cnn years later.

Ass grabbing (both ways) in fan pics is common beyond belief. There’s no end to the number of people that could claim this of someone.

And just not a big deal. A better story would be if the husband punched him for grabbing his wife’s ass, or if she had slapped him for it.
I agree with this, but the left has created this environment where any minor thing could be considered harassment. You reap what you sow.
 
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You were right. This one counts.
I really don't want to gloat about this because I think a large number male celebrities, men of power and probably some women are guilty of inappropriate sexual behavior.

Like I said before this "Me Too" movement is going to get bigger before it goes away.

I will also say that this is not a good development for Donald Trump. Do I think he's attacked women, no, do I think it is a strong possibility the he used his celebrity and wealth to try and pressure women who didn't want to hook up, yes.
 
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Got me worried... In a group photo down in Cancun I goosed our HRBP - priceless look of shock on his face. Career limiting?
 
I don't think there are many men over the age of 18 that can't think of a few times, given the current environment and attention, where they may of done something inappropriate but were never called on it.
 
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I don't think there are many men over the age of 18 that can't think of a few times, given the current environment and attention, where they may of done something inappropriate but were never called on it.
I opened the doors for women but that's taboo in today's world. Heaven help us if we compliment any for their attire.
 
I don't think there are many men over the age of 18 that can't think of a few times, given the current environment and attention, where they may of done something inappropriate but were never called on it.
Don’t think there are many men? Try, there are no men...and probably not many women.
 
I've morphed as this has gone along. I enjoy the schadenfreude of libs taking it in the goodie pile. I'm also pretty sure that whiny c*nt Morrissey has some valid points.

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I think there are plenty of women and men who were reluctant but went along when they could of got out of it, however when you are coming out of the bathroom naked or are shoving your hands down the pants of young men in bars you've got a real harassment and boundaries problem.
 
Seriously. How is it that Franken (and many others) lose their position as these accusations go public, while Moore not only survives, but gets the backing of Trump and the Republican establishment?
 
This is all about politics now. Gillibrand has been a huge Bill Clinton supporter and now she leads the calls for Franken’s ouster? Look at all the pictures of her with BC and the glowing comments on BC, some very recent. The Dems want to clean house on this so they can claim the political high road and then attack republicans like Trump and Moore. This is about perception.

It was not enough when Franken had pictures and a couple of accusations, just in that time the politics heated up. If they had wanted to make a statement on protecting women they would have called for his head then. I love it Dems are dumping Franken for political positioning, swamp eaten by the swamp.

All of this is about politics, Dems and Reps.

What is scary for every American right now is how careers are being destroyed based on anonymous sources and media hysteria, with no due process or facing your accuser. How can you defend yourself against accusations from someone you have no idea who they are. Despite your politics, seeing what is happening right now is scary. If Franken wants to step down on his own fine, but otherwise IMO he has a right for an investigation and to face his accusers and for facts to be established outside of media hysteria, rumors, and anonymous sources.
 
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Franken resigned.

And right on que he attacked Trump and Moore in his speech, predicted that would happen. He could not even leave office without being political. He made Pelosi wet just saying all that. He is not sorry, he just thinks if he should be gone so should Trump and Moore. Whole thing is about politics. Whole dang thing. Dems will kick every Dem congressman out of office for kissing a women that did not want to be kissed if it means getting Trump out. If he has a problem being out of office, stand up for yourself and let the investigation play out and let your side be heard.
 
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Technically, he hasn’t resigned yet.

Do you think he changes his mind next week if Moore wins?
He might if Moore loses.

Here's a possible scenario of the coming weeks/months.

Moore wins next week. He gets seated in the Senate. Dems and many repubes will immediately push to expel Moore. Moore gets expelled. Sessions resigns as AG. Alabama Governor then appoints Sessions to fill Moore's seat. Trump appoints a new AG who is not in jeopardy of having to recuse him/herself. After a long drawn out confirmation the new AG shuts down the Mueller investigation and/or appoints a new Special Prosecutor to investigate Clinton-Russian collusion, the dossier, the FBI and Uranium One.
 
Technically, he hasn’t resigned yet.

Do you think he changes his mind next week if Moore wins?

No, he is going to play good soldier and lay down on his sword so the Dems can go after Trump and Moore. This all about the Dems grabbing the high ground on an issue and milking it for political gain.

He is going to bend over now just like Bernie.
 
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He might if Moore loses.

Here's a possible scenario of the coming weeks/months.

Moore wins next week. He gets seated in the Senate. Dems and many repubes will immediately push to expel Moore. Moore gets expelled. Sessions resigns as AG. Alabama Governor then appoints Sessions to fill Moore's seat. Trump appoints a new AG who is not in jeopardy of having to recuse him/herself. After a long drawn out confirmation the new AG shuts down the Mueller investigation and/or appoints a new Special Prosecutor to investigate Clinton-Russian collusion, the dossier, the FBI and Uranium One.

Keep dreaming.

The Mueller investigation will be done way before all that could be played out.
 
The dems are quite content to let the country marinate in this fact:

When a dem is a predator they run him off.

When a Republican is a predator they endorse him, support him, fund him.

Also a nice segue to Hastert, but that's another conversation. Sort of.
 
The dems are quite content to let the country marinate in this fact:

When a dem is a predator they run him off.

When a Republican is a predator they endorse him, support him, fund him.

Also a nice segue to Hastert, but that's another conversation. Sort of.
In the words of a famous song, sad but true.
 
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The dems are quite content to let the country marinate in this fact:

When a dem is a predator they run him off.

When a Republican is a predator they endorse him, support him, fund him.

Also a nice segue to Hastert, but that's another conversation. Sort of.
Explain how this applies to Bill Clinton.

How long was Ted Kennedy a Democratic senator?
 
Explain how this applies to Bill Clinton.

How long was Ted Kennedy a Democratic senator?

If this applies to me I think aligning yourself with a former President both in the past and recently and a Prez accused of rape and other sexual issues and then becoming the leading voice in defending women in Washington is pretty disingenuous by Gillibrand. This all about the politics. BC had accusations, that is what AF has. Gillibrand is not some women’s activist but a politician striking for politcal gain.

I hate Franken, but IMO if he is innocent he deserves to be innocent until proven guilty. He resigned so he must be guilty.

Gillibrand typical politician that waves on her positions as the political winds change.
 
Explain how this applies to Bill Clinton.

How long was Ted Kennedy a Democratic senator?

Maybe they learned their lesson.

Not exactly like Slick Willie and Ted Kennedy are all that active in the party.
 
Maybe they learned their lesson.

Not exactly like Slick Willie and Ted Kennedy are all that active in the party.
Yes they are history but many of the same people now leading the charge were defenders.

Personally I don't think Franken should of resigned. I can't stand the guy, reports are he is a real piece of work to the people who work for him but he basically denied the claims against him today.

I think if someone claims innocence they should get their day in court or at least proof beyond accusations. I will say the pics of Franken pressing his head and body against women aren't helping is cause. There's taking a picture with a fan and then there's TAKING a picture with fan.

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