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Stuart Smalley is in trouble.

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Leann Tweeden accuses Stuart, uh, Al of inappropriate groping. This sh!t is going to hit a lot of people. I can imagine the powerful folks in Washington, Hollywood and Wall Street are really nervous.

This will not be the last person to come forward, men who do these type of things don't just do it once.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...l-franken-of-fondling-her-photographic-proof/

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Aiden Benjamin @Feisal_Hagi

BREAKING NOW:

Al Franken photo staged according to photographer who took the photo.

Photographer: he was playing dead and SHE wanted him to ‘revive’ her. I took the picture it was a funny moment everyone was smiling having a good time

Leeann Tweeden is a trump supporter.

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I call BS on this explanation. Looking at the picture, it seems more likely that her explanation is more accurate. She was sleeping, and he told the photographer, "get a picture of this, it will be funny".

With that said, look at all those layers she had on. It is pretty likely that if he didn't wake her up, all he did was put his hands on her clothes. It was an immature joke, and not all that funny, but certainly not anything that is on the same level as Weinstein, Spacey, Cosby, etc.

I can't speak for her, so maybe she really does feel violated. But, this is not something that seems like it is going to lead to any significant repercussions for Franken.
 
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Been Jammin said:
Aiden Benjamin @Feisal_Hagi

BREAKING NOW:

Al Franken photo staged according to photographer who took the photo.

Photographer: he was playing dead and SHE wanted him to ‘revive’ her. I took the picture it was a funny moment everyone was smiling having a good time

Leeann Tweeden is a trump supporter.

______________________________________

I call BS on this explanation. Looking at the picture, it seems more likely that her explanation is more accurate. She was sleeping, and he told the photographer, "get a picture of this, it will be funny".

With that said, look at all those layers she had on. It is pretty likely that if he didn't wake her up, all he did was put his hands on her clothes. It was an immature joke, and not all that funny, but certainly not anything that is on the same level as Weinstein, Spacey, Cosby, etc.

I can't speak for her, so maybe she really does feel violated. But, this is not something that seems like it is going to lead to any significant repercussions for Franken.
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Yeah that's a fake quote from the photog. Photographer remains suspiciously unnamed.
 
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syskatine said:
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This is the interesting part to me.

His reaction to the allegation is incredibly different than all of the others recently. It even includes a request for an ethics investigation of himself. Can’t imagine Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Ratner, O’Reilly ever doing anything similar.
 
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CowboyJD said:
This is the interesting part to me.

His reaction to the allegation is incredibly different than all of the others recently. It even includes a request for an ethics investigation of himself. Can’t imagine Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Ratner, O’Reilly ever doing anything similar.
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I agree. And that is part of why I think there is a lot of exaggeration associated with the accusations.
 
CowboyJD said:
This is the interesting part to me.

His reaction to the allegation is incredibly different than all of the others recently. It even includes a request for an ethics investigation of himself. Can’t imagine Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Ratner, O’Reilly ever doing anything similar.
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Not disagreeing, but it would be difficult to react any other way when there's a picture of him groping a sleeping woman.
 
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Been Jammin said:
Aiden Benjamin @Feisal_Hagi

BREAKING NOW:

Al Franken photo staged according to photographer who took the photo.

Photographer: he was playing dead and SHE wanted him to ‘revive’ her. I took the picture it was a funny moment everyone was smiling having a good time

Leeann Tweeden is a trump supporter.

______________________________________

I call BS on this explanation. Looking at the picture, it seems more likely that her explanation is more accurate. She was sleeping, and he told the photographer, "get a picture of this, it will be funny".

With that said, look at all those layers she had on. It is pretty likely that if he didn't wake her up, all he did was put his hands on her clothes. It was an immature joke, and not all that funny, but certainly not anything that is on the same level as Weinstein, Spacey, Cosby, etc.

I can't speak for her, so maybe she really does feel violated. But, this is not something that seems like it is going to lead to any significant repercussions for Franken.
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CowboyJD said:
This is the interesting part to me.

His reaction to the allegation is incredibly different than all of the others recently. It even includes a request for an ethics investigation of himself. Can’t imagine Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Ratner, O’Reilly ever doing anything similar.
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I'll say this for lib women: They're not playing favorites. My gawd, they do not give one wit about his politics.

They're also comparing the last few paragraphs of his statement to Louis CK's on twitter. I cant' get as whipped up about his deal, particularly as up front as he is, but he might as well go apologize to a fire hydrant. I'm pretty liberal, but got chewed out the other night for observing that the women on TV raising hell about sex harassment were all good looking.
 
Medic007 said:
Not disagreeing, but it would be difficult to react any other way when there's a picture of him groping a sleeping woman.
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I guess people see what they want to see in a picture.

For instance, I don’t see his hands actually on her body groping her. I see him making a crude miming gesture of groping her boobs. Disrespectful? Sure. Atrocious behavior? Sure. A picture of him groping a sleepin woman? Not so much. Could it have been snapped seconds before he actually went in for the feel? Sure. This picture though isn’t one showing him groping her.

Whenever someone tells me, “I’m not disagreeing, BUT.....” it usually turns out they kinda are disagreeing in some way. It’s like when someone says “No disrespect intended, but.....” you can pretty much guarantee the follow up is gonna be prettydanged disrespectful.
 
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Whenever someone tells me, “I’m not disagreeing, BUT.....” it usually turns out they kinda are disagreeing in some way. It’s like when someone says “No disrespect intended, but.....” you can pretty much guarantee the follow up is gonna be prettydanged disrespectful.
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Uh, ok. I guess maybe you need me to rephrase it for you...

I agree with what you said about his reaction but it would be difficult to react any other way when there's a picture of him groping a sleeping woman.

CowboyJD said:
I guess people see what they want to see in a picture.

For instance, I don’t see his hands actually on her body groping her. I see him making a crude miming gesture of groping her boobs.
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She's wearing body armor. His fingers are touching the body armor over where her boobs are. Tomato, tomato I guess.
 
Sorry, but "hover hands" =/= groping.

Unless there is more to it, she's already accepted his apology and said that is enough and all she wanted.

Now, if more women come forward making allegations against Franken, then that changes the equation. But to call that, or accepting that photograph as evidence of actual "groping" is really disingenuous and undermines the allegations being made against Weinstein, Moore, Louis C.K., etc.*

*(much in the way that phony allegations of rape, racism, etc., have in that it works to delegitimatize those who have an actual bona fide complaint.)
 
The left has built this glasshouse that we are all living in.
 
hollywood said:
Sorry, but "hover hands" =/= groping.
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Hover hands? At a minimum, the ring finger of his left hand is clearly in contact with the body armor. And she's sleeping. But if that's your take then I'm sure you strongly agree that making a comment about grabbing a woman by the pussy isn't anything remotely like the left made it out to be.
 
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Been Jammin said:
So, you support sexual harassment, and think the left is screwing things up for everyone?
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Wtf are you taking about? I don’t get worked up about the photo, especially since he was a comedian. He wasn’t even touching her.
 
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I hear now that he forcibly kissed her. Now that’s something I have a problem with.
 
hollywood said:
But to call that, or accepting that photograph as evidence of actual "groping" is really disingenuous and undermines the allegations being made against Weinstein, Moore, Louis C.K., etc.
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It seems you are conveniently leaving out her allegation of Franken kissing her without her consent.

I'll chalk you up as "fake" groping is fine and we just won't acknowledge the rest.
 
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Medic007 said:
Uh, ok. I guess maybe you need me to rephrase it for you...

I agree with what you said about his reaction but it would be difficult to react any other way when there's a picture of him groping a sleeping woman.


She's wearing body armor. His fingers are touching the body armor over where her boobs are. Tomato, tomato I guess.
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Not really, there is plenty of evidence in other cases where they reacted much differently. I would think it would be difficult to act any other way when you paid $30 mil to settle a harassment lawsuit, but Bill O convinced me of that. You’re seem to be suggesting that his response is different than the others mentioned, but only because his circumstances are uniquely different from those. I disagree. If that isn’t what you are suggesting, mea culpa for by incorrect interpretation.

hollywood said:
Sorry, but "hover hands" =/= groping.

Unless there is more to it, she's already accepted his apology and said that is enough and all she wanted.

Now, if more women come forward making allegations against Franken, then that changes the equation. But to call that, or accepting that photograph as evidence of actual "groping" is really disingenuous and undermines the allegations being made against Weinstein, Moore, Louis C.K., etc.*

*(much in the way that phony allegations of rape, racism, etc., have in that it works to delegitimatize those who have an actual bona fide complaint.)
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I want to be clear about my prior commentary re: the picture. I was commenting like a criminal lawyer as if whether actual physical contact makes a difference in the nature of the conduct or offense committed.

IMO, taking that picture without her knowledge is on the same level of egregiousness whether his hands are hovering an inch above her chest or are actually touching her.
 
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Medic007 said:
It seems you are conveniently leaving out her allegation of Franken kissing her without her consent.

I'll chalk you up as "fake" groping is fine and we just won't acknowledge the rest.
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Which he has said is inaccurate, but apologized for anyway, and asked for a Senate Ethics investigation of himself.

All of which he could have handled very differently and more in line with other accused harassers....even with the picture.
 
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Not really, there is plenty of evidence in other cases where they reacted much differently. I would think it would be difficult to act any other way when you paid $30 mil to settle a harassment lawsuit, but Bill O convinced me of that. You’re seem to be suggesting that his response is different than the others mentioned, but only because his circumstances are uniquely different from those. I disagree. If that isn’t what you are suggesting, mea culpa for by incorrect interpretation.
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I am explicitly agreeing with your take:

CowboyJD said:
His reaction to the allegation is incredibly different than all of the others recently. It even includes a request for an ethics investigation of himself. Can’t imagine Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Ratner, O’Reilly ever doing anything similar.
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I added that it would be difficult to approach this any other way with photographic evidence of the incident. I guess I should have also added "And still maintain any sort of credibility." Monetary settlements, like in O'Reilly's case, do convey very strong optics of guilt, but they don't necessarily paint the specific incidents in a visceral sense like a picture does.
 
I give him no credit for asking for an ethics investigation. He knew it was coming he's trying to make himself not look like such a douche.

I would bet this will not be the one and only accuser. This guy may be funny but rumor is that he's a real piece of work behind the scenes.
 
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