I guess to emigrate they would hop on a flight out of Yasser Arafat International Airport?
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I guess the answer would be as many as it takes for the Palestinians to accept Israel's right to exist and for the Palestinians to quit killing Israelis. I have noticed you and other pro-Palestinian folks don't seem at all upset over the fact the Palestinians attacked Israel and in the process not only killed children, they killed them brutally. Israel is not beheading children in front of their parents or vice versus.
No one here wants anyone killed, least of all children but at the same time Israel has every right to beat the people that attacked them into submission.
Maybe they shouldn't allow Hamas free reign to attack Israel and they damn sure shouldn't celebrate Israelis being attacked and brutally murdered.
You're "noticing" what you want to notice. In the first place I have said nothing that makes me "pro-Palestinian.' My whole argument is on behalf of innocent civilians. I have called what Hamas did evil, demonic, satanic, horrific and many other things, and called for the destruction of such an abhorrent organization. I have said I understand why Israel would react with vengeance, and for the most part it is justified. I just want calmer heads to prevail, heads that understand Israel killing innocent people is no more justified than Hamas killing innocent people. What you seem to not understand is the Palestinian people did not attack Israel, in the process killing children brutally, Hamas did. Hamas is no more representative of the Palestinian people as a whole than the KKK is representatve of all white Americans. What Hamas did to children is simply impossible to look at without horror. But the same could be said when looking at the shattered bodies of children blown into pieces by Israeli bombs. or seeing their crushed bodies under slabs of concrete when a bomb collapsed a building on them.
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Do you know how ridiculouss that sounds? Let's put it this way: maybe the people in south central LA shouldn't allow the Crips and Bloods free reign to control their neighborhoods. Run the bastards out! There's no danger that you or your family will get murdered. Then there wll be peace. The citizens of Little Italy should not allow the mafia free reign to run their part of the city. It would be easy to kick them out without consequence.
I may be misunderstanding what you're trying to say about "celebrating Israelis being attacked." I personally didn't see the celebrations, but I'm sure there were some who did. But probably most of them were thinking "Oh, crap, now we're gonna get it." Besides, are you thinking it's okay to kill some people because they celebrated?
Are the Palestinians innocent? You seem to think they are and that they should be excused for allowing Hamas free reign of their country.
Sorry but the Palestinians have been pulling this kind of shit for decades and the Israelis have shown patients that is beyond imagination. I do not blame them one but for ending the problem no matter how they choose to do it. I may not like it and wish for a different solution but I don't blame the Israelis for finally saying enough is enough.
Not ridiculous at all. The people of south central LA deserve everything that happens to them. They voted for the mess, refuse to cooperate with the authorities and do little to nothing to change it. Sorry but this is the real world, there are always consequences to your decisions.
Hamas exists because the residents of Gaza, West Bank, etc. (no such country as “Palestine”) want it to. I’m good with the numbers, just as I’m good with the numbers from Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki.
I can only imagine the consequences of being opposed to the killing of Innocents
One of many horrors of war is innocent people suffer and many die, which is just one of many reason to avoid war.
Only one of us here is calling for war and justifying and rationalizing the deaths of children.
I think you misunderstand, no one is calling for war. What I'm saying is I don't blame Israel and completely understand why they would.
Okay so only justifying and rationalizing the deaths of children. Got it.
In your response to me you downplay hamas’ attack/threat while Israel is ripping kids to shreds, what else do I need to see?
What do you expect, Israelis just sit back, do nothing and take being killed and their children beheaded by Palestinians?
Perhaps there is a third way that's neither genocide nor being genocided. I would say almost anything would be preferable to those two options.
You mean the response where the first words I wrote were “Hamas is evil …”?
Literally anything. A one state solution seems like a reasonable option, so does a three state solution. Anything to avoid killing innocent people.
Hamas is evil
But
It was only a pinprick attack
People only notice this attack because it was the biggest one
They are not a threat to the nation of israel
Israel has killed more!
So laughable coming from you.
He doesn't give a damn about Jewish babies 'cause Zionists bad.
Yea we've tried that for what a decade or more? Would be great but the Palestinians and Iran will not accept that, next.
I dunno probably not, but does the threat of elimination act as a deterrent? How does your state solution change the behavior of Hamas?
Even an incomplete peace is preferable to genocide.
In a one state solution Hamas is no longer in power, and no longer has enough to fight for to garner as much support from the Palestinian-arab population. This is my preference.
In a three state solution there is a secular buffer state between the Palestinian state and Jewish state incentivized to keep tabs on it's people to ensure no terror cells are operating within its borders.
OMG, MTB, do you think the destruction Hamas brought in its terrorist attack is equivalent to what Israel is doing? Are you watching Fox as they show videos of buldings being levelled? This was the worst attack on Israel since I don't know when. It was gruesome, horrific and it was their best shot and they quickly hightailed it back to Gaza. It's the best they can do. In a war it would be considered not much more than a pinprick. But it was horrendous enough to evoke worldwide condemnation, as well it should. It was never a serious threat to topple the Israeli government. Hamas is not a threat to Israel's survival as a nation. The best they can do is be a constant thorn in their side. This was a massive screwup by Israel and American intelligence. Do you doubt for one minute that Israel has killed more Palestinians than Hamas has killed Israelis? Nothing I said was incorrect.
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