Religon of Peace Update #147
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I lived in England for 12 years and everywhere we went where there would be a large gathering of people you had to be very cautious of terrorist attacks, they happened regularly , but they were not from Muslins, they were from Catholics associated with the IRA and loyalists who were mostly Protestants . Strange thing was that both got the large majority of their funding from the U. S In fact in the mid 1980s one of their largest revenue sources came from a US Government sponsored charity
How is that even remotely related to radial Islam? Two totally distinctly different problems. Yes both are terrorism and wrong but one threatens globally the other mostly an internal English/Irish problem that's mostly gone.
A reasonable step would be for all the European countries to start the wholesale deportation of anyone who has traveled to Syria and back over the last two years. How long are the Europeans going to put up with these sixth-century mentality savages?
As you just said " radical Islam" there is a huge difference between Radical Islamic extremist and the Religion of Islam. There are extremist in all religions. ISIL is not about Islam, it is about their warped view of the way they think the world should be. This same thing has been going on all through history , through all religions, the difference now is that it is easier to travel and take the terrorism around the world and with social media , everyone knows about it in seconds
The difference with Islamic radicals and other radical groups is that a very significant % of muslims are sympathetic to the radicals and approximately 20% actively support it. That represents 100's of millions of people.
This idea that radical islamists are small fringe group is not true, they represent a huge amount of people and that makes this a world wide problem that hasn't been confronted since WW II and rise of fascism.
Barack, is that you?
I disagree with that assessment. I have spent a lot of time in that part of the world, I have known thousands of Muslims, and other religions living in that part of the world and I have not met a single one with any sympathy towards that way of thinking. Saying that, obviously there is a problem, these lone wolf like attacks are almost impossible to stop. Hitler even Said ( and don't take this that I support his way of thinking in any way) that even with his thousands of body guards that if someone wanted to kill him and was willing to give his own life to do so, they would be impossible to stop. I just don't believe we should tag an entire religion on what some say they are doing in the name of that religion
Scientific polling shows that about 20-25% of Muslims sympathize with radicals or believe their actions were justified. Further, let's assume only 1% of Muslims are radicalized. Doesn't that equate to approximately 15 million people? This is only compounded when one sees that a quarter of their followers are sympathetic. Are these scientific polls completely false?
Who is tagging an entire religion as a target for actionable policy? Point to that person.
Second, I'm sure your Muslim friends are all dandy (I genuinely think that's a high probability). But that is anecdotal at best and certainly not a sample representative of bringing to the table for policy making. There are any number of variables within your own experiences and life that factor into why your knowledge of sympathetic Muslims may be incomplete.
Lastly, you were correct in your statement above that it is much easier to travel between countries.
Given the trendline (which I acknowledge is an assumption on my part that you concur there's a trend)....now what?
(If you've spoken to proposed solutions, please link me to that post)
Not every Muslim is a terrorist. Got it.
Yet statistically speaking, virtually every modern terrorist is a Muslim, and the worst of them have created a new geographic caliphate with a capital city. This was made possible by Obama's withdrawal from Iraq, in case you are still looking for examples of him being a terrible CIC.
Islam has a problem and needs a reformation.
Also, the IRA is about as relevant to this conversation as the vietcong.
Uh dude I am just going to leave this here for you so you will be educated...
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant = ISIL
They attack a priest in church and violate the sanctity of the church, yet our presidents (Bush and the rodent-in-chief) won't obliterate mosques where weapons and radicals are known to be holed up.
The muslims go ape shit when the freakin prophet is draw and yet have virtually no respect for images or facilities of Christians.
UK name me one place, outside the US where muslims in general assimilate and aren't in some type of conflict with the people they are around (that includes building up enclaves that practice sharia law, demanding pork products be removed, practice genital mutilation and so on?). When muslims are minorities it is all about minority rights, when muslims are majorities, there is virtually no such thing as minority rights.
I have also been around numerous muslims (Kuwait, Saudi, Oman, Bahrain, Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia) and can tell you with the exception of Malaysia and Kuwait, to a degree, most I met have some type of animosity towards the west. They don't call us infidels for nothing. Absolutely hated working in Saudi, not only were we treated poorly, the hired help (usually Filipino's Thai's, etc) were treated with absolute disdain.
Are they all bad, of course not but you can bet your ass that if a new caliphate evolved (not the JV type) that most of them would join up immediately, if for no other reason they would be able to confiscate then possess that which they don't currently posses. same phenomenon you saw when areas were cleared of Jews in WWII.
Saw a tee-shirt not long ago and it said "I started a company that makes explosives that look like prayer rugs, now prophets are going through the roof."
The muslims go ape shit when the freakin prophet is draw and yet have virtually no respect for images or facilities of Christians.
UK name me one place, outside the US where muslims in general assimilate and aren't in some type of conflict with the people they are around (that includes building up enclaves that practice sharia law, demanding pork products be removed, practice genital mutilation and so on?). When muslims are minorities it is all about minority rights, when muslims are majorities, there is virtually no such thing as minority rights.
I have also been around numerous muslims (Kuwait, Saudi, Oman, Bahrain, Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia) and can tell you with the exception of Malaysia and Kuwait, to a degree, most I met have some type of animosity towards the west. They don't call us infidels for nothing. Absolutely hated working in Saudi, not only were we treated poorly, the hired help (usually Filipino's Thai's, etc) were treated with absolute disdain.
Are they all bad, of course not but you can bet your ass that if a new caliphate evolved (not the JV type) that most of them would join up immediately, if for no other reason they would be able to confiscate then possess that which they don't currently posses. same phenomenon you saw when areas were cleared of Jews in WWII.
Saw a tee-shirt not long ago and it said "I started a company that makes explosives that look like prayer rugs, now prophets are going through the roof."
Considering over 95% of terrorist attacks in Euope and the US over the last 5 years are by non Muslim groups or individuals the stats do not support what you guys are saying. When ISIL captures a town, such as Irbil, and execute many if the residents and ones left alive live in constant fear of their lives, do you think all those support ISIL?
I see where this is going.
I guess a conversation really can't be had.
I'm not nuanced enough to know what the meaning of "is" is.
I guess a conversation really can't be had.
I'm not nuanced enough to know what the meaning of "is" is.
Terrorism is always going to be there, it's a sign of desperation, the only way an militarily inferior force can effectively operate , even uf ISIL is defeated it will still happen , but we have to defeat ISIL none the less. Hitting the ISIL convoys last month was huge, but the ground battle had to be fought and won by indigenous forces,
This all just bullshit pedantry.
Arguing over the nature Islam and terrorism always leaves out what actions should be taken.
If you believe that Islam is uniquely terrorist what should we do?
If you believe that Muslims are just the terrorist flavor of the month what should we do?
Arguing over the nature Islam and terrorism always leaves out what actions should be taken.
If you believe that Islam is uniquely terrorist what should we do?
If you believe that Muslims are just the terrorist flavor of the month what should we do?
There is no right answer. Could we have defeated the Vietcong? Of course. Could we have defeated the taliban? Of course. Could we stop black and Mexican gang violence? Of course. Could we stop violent Islamic extremists? Of course.
No one has the stomach for it. Pedantry will continue to rule the day.
Yeah you are going to have to actually support this statement, because it kinda seems like bullshit.
If this chart can be believed, then up to 40% of terrorist acts in the US in the last 5 years are related to Islam.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html
Maybe if gang shootings are considered terrorist attacks.
ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ls-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45.
http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/publications/living apart together - jan 07.pdf
People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html
World Public Opinion: 83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops.
26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops.
26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops.
68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops.
90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops.
72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops.
52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on American troops.
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
World Public Opinion (2009): 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil.
Only 74% of Turks and 55% of Pakistanis disapprove of terror attacks against civilians on U.S. soil.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam...imjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
27% of British Muslims do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html
Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
World Public Opinion: Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/727.php?nid=&id=&pnt=727
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/
Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/support-for-hamas-skyrockets-following-war-poll-shows/
Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....nline-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....nline-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...uslims-have-sympathy-for-jihadis-in-poll.html
ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4730825.ece
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ls-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45.
http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/publications/living apart together - jan 07.pdf
People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html
World Public Opinion: 83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops.
26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops.
26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops.
68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops.
90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops.
72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops.
52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on American troops.
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
World Public Opinion (2009): 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil.
Only 74% of Turks and 55% of Pakistanis disapprove of terror attacks against civilians on U.S. soil.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam...imjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
27% of British Muslims do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html
Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
World Public Opinion: Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/727.php?nid=&id=&pnt=727
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/
Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/support-for-hamas-skyrockets-following-war-poll-shows/
Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....nline-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....nline-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...uslims-have-sympathy-for-jihadis-in-poll.html
ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4730825.ece
Polls are great, you can usually find some to show anything you want. Before the last General election in the UK all the polls showed that the Labour Party would win in a landslide. Well, the Tories won in a landslide go figure
Not all are invalid,but if someone posts polls to prove their point they can always find some polls that do support what they are trying to say
Just to be clear I don't have an answer to the issue. But I think to completely downplay Islam is just as dangerous as fear mongering related to Islam. I also think the "I have friends that are Muslim and that determines my view" is no less naive than the "I have black friends that say..." Argument that gets thrown around. I'm not trying to be a jerk and I enjoy your points of view. So please don't think I'm trying to personally attack you.
Good lowered.
UK, do you know how sampling works? Real question.
There's roughly 25-30 independent samples listed in Thor's post. Unless you're a believer in something akin to a vast (and I mean VASSSST) right wing conspiracy, then even the lower range of a lot of those polls is a cause for a concern.
But it sounds like you're entrenched. Am I wrong?
UK, do you know how sampling works? Real question.
There's roughly 25-30 independent samples listed in Thor's post. Unless you're a believer in something akin to a vast (and I mean VASSSST) right wing conspiracy, then even the lower range of a lot of those polls is a cause for a concern.
But it sounds like you're entrenched. Am I wrong?
Just a hunch, but I don't think UK was worried about sampling error.
Reality is reality. When you see news about a terrorist bombing, shooting spree, killing of a priest in church, etc, it's almost always radicalized Islamic people. If they were Methodists I'd call them radicalized Methodists. If they were Baptists I'd call them radicalized Baptists. To think that these terrorists aren't basing their beliefs from their holy scripture is like saying Westboro doesn't base their beliefs on the Bible.
Most folks know all Muslims aren't radical killers, but there are sufficient numbers of radicals to be concerned. I don't agree with Trump about Muslim immigration, but we do need to be judicious in the use of screening tools if we are going to take in large numbers of refugees. Islam isn't just a religion. It's a political system that runs contrary to our values in the US. The head in the sand pandering approach hasn't worked. Despite President Shithead's claims, the problem is getting worse.
Most folks know all Muslims aren't radical killers, but there are sufficient numbers of radicals to be concerned. I don't agree with Trump about Muslim immigration, but we do need to be judicious in the use of screening tools if we are going to take in large numbers of refugees. Islam isn't just a religion. It's a political system that runs contrary to our values in the US. The head in the sand pandering approach hasn't worked. Despite President Shithead's claims, the problem is getting worse.
95% of terrorists attacks are by non Muslims? Do you work for the Southern Poverty Law Center, because that is a total bullshit stat that they would make up.
What should we do? Everyone is so concerned, but no one puts any thought into the best way to marginalize and defeat an ideology.
Interesting you say this. I met a woman years ago who had an absolute hatred for Muslims. I didn't understand and asked why. She said she hired a few to do repairs at her house and they stole stuff from her wherein she explained they believed it was OK per the Koran to steal from infidels.
