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You and he both show the same amount of regard for the victims of atrocities both past and present. Those dumb JV terrorists are executing people every day and that is not a statistical anomaly like mass shootings carried out by lunatics

So? Is there an obligation for POTUS to stop arabs from killing arabs in the middle east?
 
How many times have you been accidentally shot by your neighbor? How many times have you been the victim of a mass shooting? How many times has a concealed carry permit owner pulled a gun on you?

Assuming the answer is zero use your own logic and mind your own business.

No, but I've known people killed by guns -- recently a little boy, in an accident. It was totally unnecessary. Again, I can point to you many, many people that have been killed by guns. You can't point to even a respectable fraction of that number of people that have been saved by using an assault rifle. You can conjure shit up, because that's what your entire argument is based on, but no real numbers. I can point to thousands and thousands of people unnecessarily killed by guns. You can't do the same for people "saved" by guns.
 
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Or a gas mask until you've been gassed.

See? I can be just as afraid and alarmist.

The number of people on this board that have needed a gun for self defense is the same number that have needed a gas mask for self defense.
I can give you a few instances of people close to me that have been protected by their guns.

1. Dated a girl in college. Her mom did IT work for a lot of small, rural banks. On night while driving in rural Oklahoma a truck came up tailgating her and basically tried to run her off the road. She kept trying to get away but couldn't. She reached into her console and pulled out her hand gun and simply held it out the window. The truck hit the brakes and she drive away.

2.
No, but I've known people killed by guns -- recently a little boy, in an accident. It was totally unnecessary. Again, I can point to you many, many people that have been killed by guns. You can't point to even a respectable fraction of that number of people that have been saved by using an assault rifle. You can conjure shit up, because that's what your entire argument is based on, but no real numbers. I can point to thousands and thousands of people unnecessarily killed by guns. You can't do the same for people "saved" by guns.
Elian Gonzales was saved by assault rifles.
 
No, but I've known people killed by guns -- recently a little boy, in an accident. It was totally unnecessary. Again, I can point to you many, many people that have been killed by guns. You can't point to even a respectable fraction of that number of people that have been saved by using an assault rifle. You can conjure shit up, because that's what your entire argument is based on, but no real numbers. I can point to thousands and thousands of people unnecessarily killed by guns. You can't do the same for people "saved" by guns.
Uh huh. I call bullshit. Unless you are talking about thousands and thousands of people killed by gang violence. In that case, the guns are not the problem. The people pulling the trigger in the name of the gang culture are the problem.

You own upwards of 30 guns according to you. Seems to me you're part of the problem. Unless you're lying...
 
No, but I've known people killed by guns -- recently a little boy, in an accident. It was totally unnecessary. Again, I can point to you many, many people that have been killed by guns. You can't point to even a respectable fraction of that number of people that have been saved by using an assault rifle. You can conjure shit up, because that's what your entire argument is based on, but no real numbers. I can point to thousands and thousands of people unnecessarily killed by guns. You can't do the same for people "saved" by guns.

I've used thread killing stats on you several times. That's when you normally didappear.
 
I've got a couple questions about the cumulative paranoia on this board regarding gun ownership.

Full disclosure: I haven't picked up a gun in 25 years since the last time I went pheasant hunting. I don't even own a handgun, never have. (I am armed most of the time with a 9-iron I keep in the trunk.)

For 40 years I have lived in the middle of a city of nearly a milion people and haven't spent 10 seconds worrying about being shot. I don't lock our cars at night and normally leave the house unlocked 16 hours a day unless we're out of town.

I've driven I-35 between central Texas and central Oklahoma at least 300 times and never once felt threatened.

Question:

How many of you rabid gun owners have ever been shot at in anger?

(Besides military or law enforcement) how many of your family members have been shot at?

Have you or your house ever been the victim of armed burglary?

How many times have you had to shoot somebody in self defense?

How many guns do you own?

How many more do you need?

If you don't have any fear, why do you need more gun laws to protect you from something that isn't really a threat?
 
Sys is a total nazi.

He is against gunsguns.

If Jews had guns holocaust never happens.

People for gun control are clearly against controlling guns involved in the inner city drug trade which clearly makes them hypocrites
 
If you are really against gun violence prove it by renouncing black people and the city of chicago
 
If you are really against gun violence prove it by renouncing black people and the city of chicago
That would be a good start. Except replace "black people" with "gang bangers." And replace "Chicago" with "gang culture."
 
That's the true solution to gun violence. Just be against gang violence and gang culture.

If we can just get more suburban Tulsans to renounce gang bangers the problem will solve itself
 
That's the true solution to gun violence. Just be against gang violence and gang culture.

If we can just get more suburban Tulsans to renounce gang bangers the problem will solve itself
What percentage of gun homicides are attributed to gang violence versus what percentage of gun homicides are attributed to mass shooters?
 
100% agreed. Now that we know it is the black kid n a hoody in urban Chicago and not the middle aged white guy across the street, I say we come up with a solution. Maybe if the solution is good enough it can be final.
 
100% agreed. Now that we know it is the black kid n a hoody in urban Chicago and not the middle aged white guy across the street, I say we come up with a solution. Maybe if the solution is good enough it can be final.

Get a couple of wine coolers in pilt and watch out Jon Stewart! There's a new king of progressive satire in town!
 
I've used thread killing stats on you several times. That's when you normally didappear.

1. I recently posted the painfully obvious statistics of Europe vs. U.S. They have been posted a dozen times through the years. and you grasp at straws. Someone even tried to explain it away by pointing out that burglary stats were higher in the UK, as I recall. Don't give me a statistic on one town, or one random area. Its like declaring one area of a swimming pool chlorine-free. I provide huge swaths of data. Don't come at me with piss-ant stuff from a ghetto.

The Europe vs. US gun and homicide stats are a conclusive game ender. That constitutes mountains of data, over a long time. Other than Canada. there are no countries closer to us culturally or politically than western europe.

2. Which of these are you against? http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx One day you're reeeeally for mental health stuff. Enforcement of pre-existing laws. Okay, so Obama enacts this stuff to enforce pre-existing laws and fund mental health and conduct background checks so less wackos have easy access. You bitched about his recent EO's in another thread, with the usual alarmism and drama. So you're for addressing mental health and enforcement of existing laws.... until someone tried to address mental health and enforce existing laws. Your artistic politics is entertaining, Multipoke.

3. Your self defense phantasy: http://www.cafe.com/6-times-a-good-...-1450-times-a-bad-guy-with-a-gun-started-one/
 
@ThorOdinson13 i apologize for suggesting conservatives obsess over make believe.

Yes, a new holocaust is by definition fantasy. Who is going to perpetrate this holocaust, and who's gonna be the target?

Well it looks like Christians in the Middle East. Next Mr roadrunner
 
So? Is there an obligation for POTUS to stop arabs from killing arabs in the middle east?
He sure thought there was when it came to confronting the "genocide" in Libya. And he sure has a burr up his ass about Assad in Syria but hasn't had the balls to do anything useful about it.
 
I have nothing to contribute. I am posting for the purpose of being part of something that will live forever. It's like a modern day petroglyph. Sure, it was vandalism at the time, but 10,000 years later, people show up and marvel at it.
 
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I have nothing to contribute. I am posting for the purpose of being part of something that will live forever. It's like a modern day petroglyph. Sure, it was vandalism at the time, but 10,000 years later, people show up and marvel at it.

Probably the first petroglyph reference in board history. Possibly Rivals history.
 
Actually, this was not a democratic country. It was a socialist country masquerading as democratic, much like Venezuela who has a legislature that has no power. Russia is very similar. Nazi stands for National Socialist Party.
 
Let's be clear. The second amendment says the RIGHT to keep an bear arms shall NOT BE INFRINGED. Who on this board can't understand English?
 
Let's be clear. The second amendment says the RIGHT to keep an bear arms shall NOT BE INFRINGED. Who on this board can't understand English?

I understand English. What part of "A WELL REGULATED militia, being necessary to the security of a free state..." is so hard to understand??
 
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