Poll: Plurality Agrees with Trump’s ‘Border Crisis’ Assessment

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/08/plurality-of-voters-think-theres-a-crisis-at-the-border/

President Trump has more public support for his argument that the nation is facing a border crisis than Democrats have for their claim that the nation is merely facing a “problem” on the border, according to a Morning Consult poll released Tuesday evening.

"As President Donald Trump mulls declaring a national emergency over border security, a new Morning Consult/Politico survey shows a lion’s share of voters agree with him that the United States is facing a crisis over illegal immigration.

" According to the poll, conducted Jan. 4-6 among 1,989 registered voters, a 42-percent plurality think there is an illegal immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border, which Trump has argued as he’s tried to leverage a partial government shutdown to secure congressional funding for his proposed southern border wall.

"Another 37 percent of voters said there’s a problem but not a crisis, and 12 percent said there’s neither a problem nor a crisis."

 

[Pokeabear]

Did you read this?

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Did you read this?

Every bit of it.

 

[Pokeabear]

42-49 does not a majority make.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

42-49 does not a majority make.

Congratulations on your magnificent revelation and interpretation.

 

[Pokeabear]

Congratulations on your magnificent revelation and interpretation.

Gracias.

 

[SoonerRedYukon101]

Gracias.

You think that might be why he and the poll used the word "plurality? Maybe? Perhaps?

 

[Pokeabear]

You I think that might be why he and the poll used the word "plurality? Maybe? Perhaps?

Perchance? Conceivably? Reasonably?

 

[Medic007]

42-49 does not a majority make.

Is 79-12 a majority?

 

[Pokeabear]

Is 79-12 a majority?

So 42 percent see a crisis. 49 percent do not. Simple math.

 

[Medic007]

So 42 percent see a crisis. 49 percent do not. Simple math.

79 percent see either a crisis or a problem. 12 percent do not. Checkmate, rookie.

 

[Pokeabear]

79 percent see either a crisis or a problem. 12 percent do not. Checkmate, rookie.

Check the thread title and the link https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/08/plurality-of-voters-think-theres-a-crisis-at-the-border/ Yahtzee, old man.

 

[Medic007]

Check the thread title and the link https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/08/plurality-of-voters-think-theres-a-crisis-at-the-border/ Yahtzee, old man.

Thread title says "plurality agrees with Trump's border crisis assessment," which is factually correct according to the poll he linked. You tried to bring up "majority." More people believe there is at least a problem at the border than people who don't believe there's a problem by a huge margin. Out of those who think there's at least a problem at the border, more than half believe it's a crisis. 42 is a larger number than 37 or 12, so yes, the plurality of voters agree there's a crisis at the border. You need me to do this in Crayola colors for you?

 

[CowboyJD]

Is 79-12 a majority?

79 percent see either a crisis or a problem. 12 percent do not. Checkmate, rookie.

While factuallycorrect, you gotta admit, that article is....shall we say....”artfully” drafted.

The way I would look at those numbers (personally) is do more of those polled agree with Trump than disagree with him.....because it’s a supposed “crisis” that he is leveraging for the wall and to support his threat to somehow shut down the border.

 

[Pokeabear]

I’m sticking to my guns and what was posted and linked. 49-42 does not a plurality make in regards to an agreement on a “crisis” at the border.

 

[Medic007]

I’m sticking to my guns and what was posted and linked. 49-42 does not a plurality make in regards to an agreement on a “crisis” at the border.

Yes, 42-37-12 does a plurality make. You're the one lumping "problem" and "no problem" into one category. If those two weren't diametrically opposing answers, I could agree with you.

 

[Medic007]

While factuallycorrect, you gotta admit, that article is....shall we say....”artfully” drafted.

The way I would look at those numbers (personally) is do more of those polled agree with Trump than disagree with him.....because it’s a supposed “crisis” that he is leveraging for the wall and to support his threat to somehow shut down the border.

Of course the article is "artfully drafted." That's the only way that meaningless information can become meaningful to someone. Hand most people a pile of numbers and they won't bother. Hand them a narrative and they'll either cheer or despise it.

 

[Pokeabear]

Yes, 42-37-12 does a plurality make. You're the one lumping "problem" and "no problem" into one category. If those two weren't diametrically opposing answers, I could agree with you.

Lol

 

[Pokeabear]

Of course the article is "artfully drafted." That's the only way that meaningless information can become meaningful to someone. Hand most people a pile of numbers and they won't bother. Hand them a narrative and they'll either cheer or despise it.

Lol

 

[Medic007]

Lol

Lol

 

[Pokeabear]

 

[HighStickHarry]

@Pokeabear why do you ignore the actual border patrol? How do you ignore the fact that they have never endorsed a presidential candidate before trump? The people who actually work there that have been there through the Obama administration want a wall and more agents and more supplies.

You people are embarrassments.

 

[Pokeabear]

@Pokeabear why do you ignore the actual border patrol? How do you ignore the fact that they have never endorsed a presidential candidate before trump? The people who actually work there that have been there through the Obama administration want a wall and more agents and more supplies.

You people are embarrassments.

https://goo.gl/images/BSa6Y2

 

[HighStickHarry]

https://goo.gl/images/BSa6Y2

You have no response?? Wild!

But seriously how do you and your ilk tell yourselves you know more than the people who put their lives on the line at the border?

 

[CBradSmith]

 

[Pokeabear]

You have no response?? Wild!

But seriously how do you and your ilk tell yourselves you know more than the people who put their lives on the line at the border?

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[Medic007]

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Hahahahahahahahahaha! Looks like the setup for an SNL skit.

 

[HighStickHarry]

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So we are on the same page you can’t defend your position. This is what always happens with toontown. He runs and hides and you post smiley faces. Why that doesn’t clue you in to your wrongness is what bothers me.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Looks like the setup for an SNL skit.

It would be if snl wasn’t a political mouthpiece

 

[HighStickHarry]

Watching these baby boomers fight it out until their last breath is nostalgic in a lot of ways.

 

[knoblock]

@Pokeabear why do you ignore the actual border patrol? How do you ignore the fact that they have never endorsed a presidential candidate before trump? The people who actually work there that have been there through the Obama administration want a wall and more agents and more supplies.

You people are embarrassments.

Have you talked to any HSH? They do not want a wall for $5B+ but some selective fencing and better technological surveillance. The wall will not stop shit that Trump says it will if you have talked to any.. More agents and supplies they do want is correct.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Have you talked to any HSH? They do not want a wall for $5B+ but some selective fencing and better technological surveillance. The wall will not stop shit that Trump says it will if you have talked to any. More agents and supplies they do want is correct.

Watch the news, guy. The thing with technology is President Warren can just turn it off. As much wall as geographically possible is what’s needed.

 

[Medic007]

Watch the news, guy. The thing with technology is President Warren can just turn it off. As much wall as geographically possible is what’s needed.

But have you talked to any? Have you? He had beers with a retired one. Step up or shut up.

 

[knoblock]

Watch the news, guy. The thing with technology is President Warren can just turn it off. As much wall as geographically possible is what’s needed.

Watch the news ha. Have you spent much time in S. Texas?

 

[knoblock]

But have you talked to any? Have you? He had beers with a retired one. Step up or shut up.

You been there Medic?

 

[Medic007]

You been there Medic?

Been where? South Texas?

 

[knoblock]

Watch the news ha. Have you spent much time in S. Texas?

Missed the Warren satire HSH, good one .Nikki will not turn it off though.

 

[knoblock]

Been where? South Texas?

Don't think this thread is about N. Texas and the Red River.

 

[Medic007]

Don't think this thread is about N. Texas and the Red River.

It's not about south Texas either...

 

[imprimis]

I was born and reared in South Texas and still have numerous relatives living there. Also worked with what is now CBP/ICE for several years. It was a problem then and a more significant problem now.