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For the record,
@davidallen dodged any actual comment.
@07pilt (probably wisely) avoided it altogether. And
@syskatine did his basic "have you had enough?" after straight getting mugged for half a week, and used his fantasy of victory as an excuse not to comment on a direct request to do so.
Oh, and sys... once and for all - your graph is shit. This was posted in that 4 page curb stomp that you did read but probably don't remember.
And of that .000008%, a whopping 4.1 % are rifles (an AR is a rifle). Of that 4.1% what proportion do you think are actually rifles that would be subject to being banned? For example, not deer rifles - which are MUCH higher powered than an AR which basically shoots a high velocity .22 caliber projectile. Let's be charitable and say fully HALF of all American rifles are scary black kinds. So that leaves 2.05% of .000008% (I don't even know how to do the math on that, but it's a lot of .000000000 before any kind of number) of all realistic danger of gun death is by assault rifle.
You want to change gun death numbers UK and
@07pilt? Here's how you do it.
1. Leave the f*ing Constitution alone. Forget the fantasy of banning scary rifles. It's PR yammering. As I demonstrated above, it does nothing. Easily concealed hand-guns are your real killer, and if you think banning assault rifles is hard, try taking people's pistols away. And speaking of pistols, legally armed good guys are by far the best way to deter gun violence and stop shootings from the inside. Ask a cop or two. They generally tend to consider a citizen who has done the right things to get a CCP a "good guy" who is an asset, not a hinderance to their job. These mass shootings you guys lose your shit over every few months almost exclusively happen in gun free zones. DO THE MATH.
2. tighten up the existing background check red flags and at minimum institute a mandatory waiting period for people on a watch list or who have been questioned by the FBI specifically about terrorism. Clean up the watch list and get people off of it who shouldn't be. Create a clearing house where you can quickly and efficiently get incorrectly assigned people OFF of this list when mistakes are made. At minimum, given the Orlando shooter's background, an automatic 3 day waiting period should've been triggered. Conservatives need to be open minded to the evolving threat of terror and unfortunately this is an area where concessions need to be made. Background checks and flagging people on FBI lists are great, but that needs to be the final line in the sand for the NRA. Nothing more.
3. GANG VIOLENCE - enforce existing laws. Institute much harsher mandatory sentencing for any crime committed with a firearm. Clear out the prisons by legalizing pot, and fill em back up with offenders of gun violence. NO early release. Make it truly life changing, and not a badge of honor to the criminal world.
4. SUICIDES - our country has a deplorable mental health system, compared to what it should be. Helping suicidal people should obviously be a huge priority rather than simply eliminating an efficient way to do it when they make that decision. On the one hand, if you are pro-choice, that should extend to someone wanting to self-abort right? And why make them do something more likely to leave them a vegetable (jumping, hanging, carbon monoxide, drowning) than something that gets the job done? ON THE OTHER HAND, help these people before they do it instead of blaming the f'ing tool they used.
5. Gun education - when I was a kid, we had a pellet gun shooting class in school. A public school! Gun safety was taught. This I believe, greatly reduces the "accidental" gun deaths statistic. Education. Respect for lethal weapons. Teach people to use them and be responsible with them. I know this is blasphemous in today's America, but this is essential. It also would be nice if the proponents of gun control could be bothered to educate themselves on guns so they don't sound like complete morons when they talk about them. The internet is full of hilarious videos of politicians holding a gun for the first time in their pampered lives surrounded by armed security, talking about this thing they know nothing about. Education. Banning guns is basically the equivalent of salem witch trials and burning books by uneducated puritan rubes.
So there you go.. Problem solved. Graph destroyed (again).
Be men. Be
free men and respect other free men's right to self determine things like guns.
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My point of the OP by the way, is to illustrate that the border is part of the problem both of illegal guns and as a pathway for elements who aren't your basic Mexican drug gangs to enter this country with terrifying ease. We have been used by BOTH PARTIES. One wants easy votes. One wants cheap labor. Anyone else arguing for open borders is arguing for undocumented terrorists and for truckloads of unknown weapons and ordinance.
Get a clue and quit being a goddam parrot for your party. Grow up and just take notice of a few other things while we are at it.
There is no wage gap. No glass ceiling.
Culturally we are effectively post-racial and post-women's liberation. It's being artificially stirred up by hate groups like BLM and various social justice warriors who are effectively playing dress up and pretending to be activists like the people who went into Birmingham Alabama in the 60's to fight ACTUAL social injustice. What do these have to do with the debate over guns? Well, the atmosphere artificial activists create exists to put the focus on things that are not threats. There is a severe supply and demand problem for these people. Not enough bigots and injustice by the Christian patriarchy to fill the need for their angsty rebellion, so when a terrorist attack happens, they naturally have to focus on something other than a minority group just f*ing hating them and wanting to kill them.
The reaction by various groups after this nightclub shooting with all the pithy John Lennon, love not hate memes is insipid foolishness. Islamists hate gays. They hate jews. They hate Christians. They are the nazis of our time, and we spend more time trying not to offend them than we do trying to understand how defeat them. The narrative of tolerance is literally more important than the lives they take. Our president cannot even verbalize who they are.
Feel free to debate any of the above points. Anytime.
