OK STATE VS. ARIZONA STATE
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Looking good for December, need to work on a couple issue and improve on the good stuff but its only December.
That may have been the meanest I’ve ever seen Plott and Surber wrestle. Both guys just looked like they wanted to put a hurting on the other guy, not just beat him.
I was also impressed with Cutter'ss mean streak and non stop attack. 'be like Mike'
Love when guys wrestle like they’re offended the other guy dared to show up.
FUTURE future I think Kody Routledge. Future for this season, hopefully Teague gets healthy and back soon?
That is something the coaches could look at after Vagas and the holidays. I don't like how Young is looking, and Jamison is wrestling solid but not great. However, Hughes is looking good at 133 so far.
Really like how Spratley wrestled he seemed very quick and got the pin against a guy who tried hard but I don't think he is very good. Hughes was dominant with a tech against an opponent who is questionable. Jamison wrestled solid and won a decision. Young had a bad weekend and today lost to a good opponent. Young not finishing takedowns was a problem. Good for Sheets being dominant but against an opponent who did not look good. Amine's lack of offense really cost him against a solid opponent. He got to his opponent's legs twice getting the leg up in the air once but got no takedowns. Losing the takedown in overtime almost seemed like a relief to get out of this match. I have seen matches where is desire seemed questionable, and this was one of those matches. Hamiti won easy with a major but did not seem to be at his best. Plott won by major grinding his opponent when on top but could have gotten more takedowns although he did have a real nice double leg in the 3rd period. Surber won by major and wrestled strong. Hendrickson dominated Schultz and should have gotten a major but gave up a takedown because Schultz rolled through a great shot by Hendrickson. I was surprised by how easy Hendrickson's match was for him with his speed, strength and explosiveness. Most wrestled good and a few didn't.
Just talked to a guy that was there and knows a little bit.
With the recruits in, a multiple weigh-in tourney and just the jump in outside activity…there was a ton of working out and limit pushing. An early season March if you will?
Our guys were tasked(not spent) in all phases. Considering that, they weren’t peak.
With the recruits in, a multiple weigh-in tourney and just the jump in outside activity…there was a ton of working out and limit pushing. An early season March if you will?
Our guys were tasked(not spent) in all phases. Considering that, they weren’t peak.
You definitely have to train thru at times it's about peaking for March . Typically teams pick another event in the year to peak for. Imagine Cliff Keen is the focus currently
Multi weigh-in tourney close, this was simulation to that in a way.
Cutter seems like he has what looks like a good high-crotch, ala Mike, but not not seeing any leg ride
Dean seemed very upset with his opponent after the match. That stale was a joke, the other guy tried to push him out half way around the circle and Dean finally gave in and went out.
Sheets looks small for 57 but kid has guts.
I believe he is a 149 that they bumped up for a few duals
Some good problems to have.
but the best lineup is:
Witcraft
Hughes
Jamison
Everyone loves Young and he's such a hard worker. But a jamison with more energy, Cael at the weight he wants and a Witcraft that looks like a dog... whoo buddy.
but the best lineup is:
Witcraft
Hughes
Jamison
Everyone loves Young and he's such a hard worker. But a jamison with more energy, Cael at the weight he wants and a Witcraft that looks like a dog... whoo buddy.
He wrestled 149 at MSU open, he weighed in 149 for Utah V and OR State and came out center mat with Young this is why he looks small for 157.
Young hasn't looked great. I think it is a conversation worth having. That being said ... its four duals. Seems a tad to early to pull the plug on Young.
Did anyone notice that most our Oklahoma boys looked great out there?
Eufaula (pop 2,766) with a pin
Stillwater (pop 48,394) with a tech
Stilwell (pop 3,700) just one TD from a tech
Tuttle (pop 7,413) just one TD from a tech
Again, Tuttle (pop 7,413) just one TD from a tech
Don’t get me wrong, I love them “Yankees” and will take all we can get but, great job out there guys!
Eufaula (pop 2,766) with a pin
Stillwater (pop 48,394) with a tech
Stilwell (pop 3,700) just one TD from a tech
Tuttle (pop 7,413) just one TD from a tech
Again, Tuttle (pop 7,413) just one TD from a tech
Don’t get me wrong, I love them “Yankees” and will take all we can get but, great job out there guys!
This is the problem with top programs.
Right now you’ve got a least 1 weight with a logjam where both guys look more deserving of being on the mat than the guy starting at a different weight.
We’ve been seeing guys get chance after chance for years. In a competitive situation like this - which everyone wants and has signed up for - you have to perform to keep your spot.
We will learn a lot at CKLV.
I guess I just forgot seeing it (I turn 68 tomorrow) and I shouldn't have mentioned it at all. Comparing these guys, negatively, to their "legendary" fathers is not right and I regret it. I should have just said that when he tried the first high-crotch on Friday I got a little chill of excitement and when he hit the one for a take-down Sunday (if I remember correctly), I was more than pleased. It was the same when Wyatt would throw in the leg.
If you weren't around to see father Mike wrestle, you are very unfortunate. John Smith, Sheets and Monday were all works of art.
I don't disagree at all. If the coaches made the move this early I get it.
I'm just not 100% sold we have to get Witcraft in the lineup yet. I would like to see him wrestle some real competition. He has looked good but he should against the two guys he has faced so far. Young, while he hasn't looked great, has had a much tougher schedule. Vasquez and Willochell are two guys who will should be at NCAAs. They aren't pushovers.
I'm not against benching Young. The coaches see these guys in practice every day. I trust them to make the right call. All I am saying is we are still dealing with an extremely small sample size.
On top of that, I know Hughes has had his issues with making 133 but he doesn't not like massive for the weight to me.
He also went for a nice duck under I think twice which looked a lot like his brother.
Fun weekend. Guys were scrappy. Love the relentless energy from several of the weights. Looking forward to seeing Hughes against higher competition.
This was my thought too. Would love to be proven wrong but I don’t think Hughes has the strength for 141 yet.
I also don’t think Jameson should be bumped up at least yet. He has had zero offense through 4 duals. If he shows more in the first and maybe second then gasses out I would be more tempted to say he need to bump but this weekend he spent 6 min (P1 both duals) circling and being pushed around. I have no reason to think that changes because he adds 7-8 pounds.
Ok folks, so we've had 4 duals to get a look at our Cowboys under Coach DT. I'm not gonna break down every match, there's been enough of that. Let me say I think it's interesting some of the takes we're seeing on here. I definitely think as a whole OUR EXPECTATIONS are much higher which is a great sign of increased passion and interest.
IMO I think some people thought DT would turn OSU into psu in 6 months lol. Had a buddy say that to me Sunday. He had missed the road duals but had heard enough he thought we'd tech/pin everyone this weekend (he was joking of course). But we both agreed that the program is on a huge upswing but the whole "DT EFFECT" will be months and years in the making.
I will discuss a couple of things and share my thoughts. I still think 33 is WAY up in the air. First weekend Reece looked better against a tougher opponent by a mile. This weekend we saw a lot of versatility from Cael and that's great to see. Cael not getting to wrestle Chlebove only complicated the coaches decision. We REALLY need to see both of them against tougher competition. I would think there will be a wrestle-off to see who goes to Vegas. May the best man win.
Not worried about Carter or Tagen for that matter just yet. I think with Tagen, he probably didn't nail his cut Friday and it showed. Let me add, hats off to Branch and Co. they came to wrestle! Kennedy works closely with these two and I think some of what we're seeing is them TRYING to integrate a lot of new stuff into their game and it hasn't fully clicked yet. I think you can see this in several guys actually. Sort of stuck between the old staff and the new. I would include Spratley in this with some of the hesitation to shoot earlier in his matches. Carter definitely needs to battle harder, he's got more skills then either of the opponents he wrestled this weekend. He finishes more of those TDs and he's 4-0.
Hats off to Cutter Sheets filling in for Teague and wrestling his ass off!
IMO I think some people thought DT would turn OSU into psu in 6 months lol. Had a buddy say that to me Sunday. He had missed the road duals but had heard enough he thought we'd tech/pin everyone this weekend (he was joking of course). But we both agreed that the program is on a huge upswing but the whole "DT EFFECT" will be months and years in the making.
I will discuss a couple of things and share my thoughts. I still think 33 is WAY up in the air. First weekend Reece looked better against a tougher opponent by a mile. This weekend we saw a lot of versatility from Cael and that's great to see. Cael not getting to wrestle Chlebove only complicated the coaches decision. We REALLY need to see both of them against tougher competition. I would think there will be a wrestle-off to see who goes to Vegas. May the best man win.
Not worried about Carter or Tagen for that matter just yet. I think with Tagen, he probably didn't nail his cut Friday and it showed. Let me add, hats off to Branch and Co. they came to wrestle! Kennedy works closely with these two and I think some of what we're seeing is them TRYING to integrate a lot of new stuff into their game and it hasn't fully clicked yet. I think you can see this in several guys actually. Sort of stuck between the old staff and the new. I would include Spratley in this with some of the hesitation to shoot earlier in his matches. Carter definitely needs to battle harder, he's got more skills then either of the opponents he wrestled this weekend. He finishes more of those TDs and he's 4-0.
Hats off to Cutter Sheets filling in for Teague and wrestling his ass off!
Disappointed you didn’t end with “Fartz Out”
