Yep, clearly looks like a bellwether district, doesn't it? Compare those numbers to the national popular vote for those years . . .
2008 Obama 52.9% - 45.7%
2012 Obama 51.1% - 47.2%
2016 Trump 46.1% - 48.2%
2020 Biden 51.3% - 46.9%
NY 19 Congressional Election
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2008 Obama 52.9% - 45.7%
2012 Obama 51.1% - 47.2%
2016 Trump 46.1% - 48.2%
2020 Biden 51.3% - 46.9%
It looks like a democrat district, groomer.
Zapata and another heavy Hispanic Rio Grande County flipped to red. Unheard of. Hispanics are pro job, law abiding and are not fans of abortion. Hispanics are not migrating to Pub because of Pub. It's Trump.
Longtime Texas Democratic House district goes GOP after Mayra Flores wins special election
Republican Mayra Flores defeated the leading Democratic candidate for an open congressional seat in a historically blue region of South Texas in a Tuesday special election.nypost.com
As someone that follows politics I would think the Republican special election win in south Texas is more of an indicator than some district in New York. New York will vote Democrat no matter what, the districts that have been loyal Democrat voters for decades flipping Republican would be more of an indicator to me, especially sinse Democrats are flooding the country with millions of illegal aliens.
Just saw a YouTube short that made me think of you, SBI.
I have 3 eggs. I broke one, I cooked one, and I ate one. How many eggs do I have left?
Given your lack of reasoning you've got a mess on the floor, a crusty mess in a pan, and egg shell and yolk dribbling down your chin.
I think that one sounded more clever before it left your head/ass, fatboy. 🙄
If hispanics are migratng to "Pub" because of one man they are migrating for the wrong reason, and it may eventually bite them (and the rest of us) in the backside.
Libtards gotta find a victory somewhere right now even if its only a moral victory.
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Explain to me how a district that Biden won in 2020 by 2 points and had previously been held by Democrats is considered a +3R lean?
She is in error. Socialism does not win, it never wins (if by "wins" you mean it makes things better for the people). Socialism never wins. Socialists win. There's a huge chasm between the two. She looks very young. I doubt she recognizes the difference between socialism winning and socialists winning. In her mind they are the same thing.
Why go back to 2016? Why not quote how the district voted in 2020? Oh that's right. They elected the Democrat by 2 points (just like this election), and that would silence your narrative.
His ilk are masters of omission. Case in point, editing entire speech videos of the term "go forth in peace".
Do you know what bellwether means as it relates to politics?
Yes, Biden won this district in 2020, just like he won nationally too. We go back to 2016 because we are looking at trends. Trump was elected in 2016 and won this district too. Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012, and won this district both times. Again, look at the margin of victories in this district each of those years and compare them to the national popular vote.
Also, a Republican was representing this district from 2011 through 2019 (after the Republican candidate defeated the incumbent Democrat in 2010). A Democrat won the district in 2018, defeating the Republican incumbent. What happened nationally in the 2018 midterm? Democrats took back control of the House. What happened nationally in the 2010 midterm? Republicans took back control of the House.
What is so hard to understand about this? It is very clear to see.
If you want to use it as a indicator that's great but in spite of what the MSM, both sides, is telling us I see differently. The special election was held using the old district lines that had Republicans +3, the new district is Republican +1. Yes it is a swing district but it's New York they normally vote Democrat.
This is very much unlike the recent special election in South Texas where a district that has been voting Democrat for 100 years voted Republican. That should be the eye opener for everyone.
Yes, the old district is the bellwether district. That is what we are looking at.
Except when they didn't in this district. Which was in 2010, 2012 (congressional), 2014, and 2016. Or, going even further back, when they voted Republican in 2004, 2002, 2000, 1998, etc.
Yes. It means a race that is declared by the punditry to reflect the national mood AFTER a democrook wins it. 🙄
Wrong as usual.
There is no doubt that had the Republican won this special election, all the right-wingers on this board would be singing a different tune right now. And of course, they would have a point. But it didn't go the way Republicans wanted or expected, so time for the right-wingers to spin and downplay.
At least some Republicans, like Santorum, are smart enough to reference the result of this election as a worrisome sign for Republicans. He even did it on Newsmax!🤣🤣
Like I said use it if you want, I don't think it's representaitve of anything other than New York is full of Democrat voters, big surprise.
Then how do you explain this district voting for Republicans often, especially in election cycles that are generally good for the Republican Party?
That's right, you have no explanation. As usual.
LOL ,how do you explain a district that's been voting Democrat for 100 years voting Republican. As to NY 19 it doesn't amount to a pimple on a gnats ass IMO. Hopefully it's still legal to have a different opinion in your America.
If you are speaking of TX-34, it hasn't been around for 100 years. It was formed after the 2010 census and the first election was in 2012. So it has been around ten years.
With that said, I don't disagree or downplay the Republicans picking up that seat back in June. I think it is important to note though that this special election happened before the overturning of Roe and before we started to see some of the more positive trends for Democrats this cycle emerge.
Definitely a solid pick-up though for Republicans. Will be interesting to see what happens in November when Flores faces incumbent Democrat Vicente Gonzalez out of TX-15.
Yes, because the Republican candidate didn't win. Had he, we both know you would be claiming something completely different.
Democrook winning in NY is hardly an indicator of anything. And why are you spending so much time here all of sudden? James Martin get tired of you fellating him?
Except when this congressional district has clearly been an indicator on numerous occasions.
You are struggling really hard on this thread. Nothing really new from you, of course, but still hilarious to watch.🤣🤣
Please don't try to insult our intelligence. Zapata county has been voting Democrat for almost 100 years which is where the district lies. Trying to claim or imply otherwise is highly dishonest.
My question is how many busloads can the yanks swallow? Gregg's sending them at a record pace as well as well as Ducey at Arizona. 😂Longtime Texas Democratic House district goes GOP after Mayra Flores wins special election
Republican Mayra Flores defeated the leading Democratic candidate for an open congressional seat in a historically blue region of South Texas in a Tuesday special election.
As someone that follows politics I would think the Republican special election win in south Texas is more of an indicator than some district in New York. New York will vote Democrat no matter what, the districts that have been loyal Democrat voters for decades flipping Republican would be more of an indicator to me, especially sinse Democrats are flooding the country with millions of illegal aliens.
Is TX-34 only made up of just Zapata county? Nope. TX-34 was created in 2010. Maybe you should take the time to find out the truth before you start making false claims.
btw, Zapata county voted for Trump in 2020 and Trump lost nationally. Zapata County isn't a bellwether county.
And all you’re doing is vomiting back talking points. Which is why this board writes you off as full of shit.
Have you ever been to South Texas? I have, not much there including people, but hey you are the all knowing one.
I'm the one vomiting back talking points??🤣🤣
All you have done on this thread is repeat the "it's New York" right-wing talking point and completely ignored all the statistics and history presented. That and falsely claiming Trump didn't win the district.🤣
Like I said, you are struggling hard right now. Thanks for the laughs!
Interesting observation, given that you want to hold up this district as a bellwether representative.
I'm sorry if you are upset that, once again, you have shown that you don't know what you are talking about.
Maybe next time, do a little bit more research than just the NY Post.🤣🤣
In 2016, you Dems put a presidential candidate out there that was so horrid, people had the choice of cutting their wrists, jumping into a vat of molten lead, staying home (like 4% of Dems did in 2016), or vote for Trump.
And yet that candidate still won the popular vote over Trump. Millions of Americans clearly chose another option.
I agree with you though that Clinton wasn't the best candidate for the Democrats in '16. Sanders would have been a much better option. Heck, Biden as the sitting VP would have been a better option, as we saw in 2020.
People who love this country and love the US Constitution give the middle finger to the "popular vote", and thank God our founding fathers were given the foresight to write Article II, Section 1.
