Hopefully we will get to see most if not all these kids in freestyle over the summer and make huge overreactions based on that outcome! Can’t wait!
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When we have lots of good wrestlers in an event it is much more enjoyable to watch. When our wrestlers do well especially against National competition it does set up overreaction or if we become good enough our reaction becomes reality. You can always hope.
I remember seeing him wrestle 184 at the Fort Hayes Open against decent Division 2, Naia or Jucos and it was horrifying to see him wrestle so poorly. There was hope of the Taylor effect on him. That was dashed that day. Someone said he had to cut a lot of weight just before the tournament. Still, that would be a lack of discipline. His senior year of high school he was better than Penn. St National runner-up Barr. If I was him after Hayes I would have had to take a self-inventory, and decide I need to do wrestling different ( work way harder). I hope he did.
I think you are right, Robideau should red shirt.
If that’s the case, I don’t see it as this big recruiting battle win for Carl.
Wants to be home so bad that he will sit on the bench or what?
Cael just didn’t want him at ok state
I’m hoping his attendance in the Fort Hayes tournament was a last minute decision and thus so was the weight cut. And doing it all without the coaches or anyone else besides teammates would make it harder as well.
I’m likely overly optimistic, but I am hopeful we see a rejuvenated and refocused BT come next season. The fact that he’s stuck around and hasn’t opted to leave or been asked to leave is a good sign, and DT taking him as a training partner to the world championship has to be a sign that DT sees something in him. If he can have stellar defense, be a real SOB on top, and go get takedowns when he needs to I think (hope?) he can still be very good.
That’s exactly what he is when he’s not sucked down.
I just think of him putting Picklo in a spladle in the first Bedlam dual last year. I don’t care if Picklo never quite hit AA status or whatever folks projected for him, doing that to a D1 wrestler is absolutely bonkers.
Picklo is another one that either was in the wrong system or just never developed into his potential
Hawks getting a little sleezy? Sounds like they might have possibly cooked up an agreed upon deal pre portal with some of those other folks.
Wrestlers talking to wrestlers is a little different.
The donor says I’ll offer you X if you transfer
The athlete says our donors will offer you X if you transfer
There’s really no difference, it’s still “legal”tampering.
Credit to Flynn and Bratke for actually having stones and naming names and calling programs out instead of the usual passive aggressive BS we usually have to read. Do I like that OSU was included? Not particularly. But at least it’s not Dresser’s “Allude to stuff but don’t have the courage to come out and say it” crap
PSU did this all few years ago already, now laughing at these amateurs who dont know how to get it done without noise.PSU fans be like ...
OSU and Iowa food fight
For what’s it’s worth:
Bailey’s dad prompted him to get into the portal. He talked Jordan into going with him. The Bailey family can use the money. Iowa did NOT offer them EACH $300k. From a reliable source, it was $75k each per year for a total of $300. This is a much different song and dance.
All these schools are in the same ballpark whether folks want to believe it or not. I originally heard Swiderski was offered $300k — no idea if it was per year or total. I just heard from a very good source that Facundo was offered $250k per year.
Again, I don’t have a problem with it when kids are leaving because they want to start or because their family needs the money.
My point is that this is the new game and you either play it or you get left behind. I don’t like it one bit.
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You are Iowa fan though. You might be down playing Iowa guys numbers and hyping up OSU guys numbers cause it helps your team. I refuse to believe your numbers.
But I have no issues kids are leaving for better future. It's their life. It just gives me, an OSU fan, a talking point to nib Iowa fans.
To be honest, I am not really afraid of Iowa paying these kids. Their coaching staff has given us no indication that payment recruiting make them a better wrestling program in recent years.
I didn’t tell you to believe the numbers. I am telling the word on the street. I do know the numbers for Bailey and Williams and admit, I do not know the numbers for Swiderski and Facundo — and these numbers are coming from ISU insiders.
But, if you think I am downplaying numbers:
Teemer got 500k
Buchanan for 400k
Parco got $325
Also, I am told every starter on PSU’s team gets $100k a year in order to be fair and consistent and not cause internal issues. Is this true, no idea! But, it at least makes sense.
But, I am not manipulating numbers to make one team look better or worse than another. Of course I am an Iowa fan but I am an Okie State fan second because I grew up during the rivalry and loved every second of it.
I'm not giving real numbers but those aren't reality. I am quickly coming to the belief that NIL numbers are 3-10x lower than what the internet quotes. Across the board. 10x for lower echelon guys and 3x for upper echelon guys. Think about it.
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Just when I thought the numbers convo was dead lol here we go again.
It will never be dead. It will only grow more powerful.
If we gave Swiderski $300,000 a year I would say that we are crazy and if we continue to be this dumb and we will have no future. If we gave him 300,000 for 2 years, I still question our sanity. I read where Georgia might need to come up with 2 million to sign the number 1 high school quarterback in the Country but that is big time football that makes a fortune. That we would pay Facundo $250,000 a year to get a 2nd or 3rd team place at Nationals doesn't make sense. He has never even been an All-American wrestler and Swiderski is coming off a major injury and placed 7th once at Nationals. Does that even include their scholarship. I hope wrestling has not become this destructive. NIL originally was about doing some advertising or something for money from a company. I would see where a company would pay Daton, Plott or Hendrickson but pay for some hired gun who has not been very successful?
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That’s not the real Sammy Brooks, just a fan account, also a 2x AA is a poverty wrestling career?
It hasn't and I don't know why perfectly logical people make illogical claims. I'm still trying to figure out why people are either lying about NIL numbers or trying to make themselves relevant by quoting numbers that they have no knowledge about. I'm on the sidelines for the most part on these transfers but the numbers I'm getting are a far cry from those being quoted on the internet. Just ask yourself why? Does anyone think Swiderski got $300k? Case closed...
Swiderski getting $300k?! He is going into his Senior year?! Transfers aren’t over. This is one hell of a way to follow up on an incredible finish to the year.
I wonder if next year is a “punt” year. It would explain a lot of what is, or is not, going on. I hope so. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to circle the wagons and develop our talent
We pick on Iowa, because they seem to be the worst offenders, but I’m sure there is always some back door dealing, rules skirting in every program. A great Yogi on a mountain somewhere said, “if you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t tryin”. Though, to all those kids out there, I would never encourage cheating. Stay in school and eat your veggies.
It’s crazy these numbers are being thrown out as big bags of cash.
The facts that performance based agreements are illegal really further the narrative that this stuff isn’t accurate.
I will say that numbers being reported might be “package” totals and not yearly bags of money.
Ex. Wyatt Hendrickson getting 100-250k ( those are the rumors) and thinking he’s getting that in stacks of hundreds is wrong. What he’s getting is school, housing, food/nutrition, transportation, recreation, endorsement deals and training pay over a period of time…2028…a package.
Most Programs will likely be uniform deals for the guys getting compensation.
The facts that performance based agreements are illegal really further the narrative that this stuff isn’t accurate.
I will say that numbers being reported might be “package” totals and not yearly bags of money.
Ex. Wyatt Hendrickson getting 100-250k ( those are the rumors) and thinking he’s getting that in stacks of hundreds is wrong. What he’s getting is school, housing, food/nutrition, transportation, recreation, endorsement deals and training pay over a period of time…2028…a package.
Most Programs will likely be uniform deals for the guys getting compensation.
