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Take Mesenbrink and Kerk out of the equation, because quite honestly they never wrestled at any other colleges. But what transfers to Penn State have been successful? Nagao, went backwards since getting to PS. Dean, went backwards. Hildebrandt, was terrible at PS. Truax, got no better. Not sure if the transfers are not use to the Penn State style or what, but transfers do not get better when they go to Penn State at all.
 
Take Mesenbrink and Kerk out of the equation, because quite honestly they never wrestled at any other colleges. But what transfers to Penn State have been successful? Nagao, went backwards since getting to PS. Dean, went backwards. Hildebrandt, was terrible at PS. Truax, got no better. Not sure if the transfers are not use to the Penn State style or what, but transfers do not get better when they go to Penn State at all.
Dean won a national title, he may have regressed the next season but he was also a 7th! year senior and those guys normally regress
 
Seems like every year we say we will compete with PSU in “2-3 years”

That has been for the last 10 years.

I definitely think we will stay top 3 but PSU brings in 2-3 studs for every 1 we bring in. A lot has to do with geography for them.
You are right they jump levels whenever we make a move. It also hurts when our number 1 recruiting class of 2023 has not been productive after 2 years. The good news is we forced them to open up their war chest as Chase indicated but also our staff is new and young and should have great potential for growth.
 
Welsh is great and I would take him in a second but I would prefer we go after dynamic SCORERS! Point machines who major, tech & pin, that is how you win! That's why Wyatt and Dean were so great, even Fish would go out there and try to put up big points but unfortunately he also gave up his fair share but he was a joy to watch. Nothing personal but I hope we stay away from the Amine types going forward
 
Rocco is exactly similar to Levi. Will wrestle close against top 20 guys and try to squeak out win instead of trying to score constantly.
 
I think we have been a favorite for Rocco for long time until PSU got in and got him in last min. Same for Jayden James. I am hearing ISU ponied up and paid Bastida who was in talks with DT too.

Lots of misses recently. I'm sure DT will land some studs for sure, but we maybe struggling with NIL department.
 
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I think we have been a favorite for Rocco for long time until PSU got in and got him in last min. Same for Jayden James. I am hearing ISU ponied up and paid Bastida who was in talks with DT too.

Lots of misses recently. I'm sure DT will land some studs for sure, but we maybe struggling with NIL department.
Yonger was never leaving his support system in Ames. He is very close with Echemendia and they have always wanted to finish their careers together. I’m sure Taylor was after Yonger, but with the Cubans, loyalty is a major thing. Also, not sure Casey was the best person to try recruiting the Cubans either ;)
 
Yonger was never leaving his support system in Ames. He is very close with Echemendia and they have always wanted to finish their careers together. I’m sure Taylor was after Yonger, but with the Cubans, loyalty is a major thing. Also, not sure Casey was the best person to try recruiting the Cubans either ;)
It's easy to say this when he tweeted. I wonder if you would have said this last night. Remember what ASU guys tweeted before moving to Iowa or Rocco tweeted before moving to PSU? Lol. But anyway, better ISU is good for Big 12. So I am not sad.

More annoyed at PSU.
 
It's easy to say this when he tweeted. I wonder if you would have said this last night. Remember what ASU guys tweeted before moving to Iowa or Rocco tweeted before moving to PSU? Lol. But anyway, better ISU is good for Big 12. So I am not sad.

More annoyed at PSU.
I don’t disagree with the ASU guys or Rocco. I’m just saying it’s a bit different for Yonger with the Cuban support system he has in Ames with Ech, Osmany, Reineri, and a couple of the coaches that he’s close with. Money does talk, but with the Cubans, that support staff and loyalty means a lot from where they came from
 
Not sure how big Spratley is but if he can go 133 and not be undersized, him and Figs would be lethal. Nobody denies Figs talent, he's won the whole thing before with .... *ahem* the distractions of Tempe.

If he buys into DT's lifestyle demands .... look out.
 
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I’ve always thought of Spratley as a career 125er. He struggled with longer guys who cut from 133 (see: Strickenberger). Don’t know if he’d be as effective as he is at 125.
On the same page. Have absolutely no problem seeing Jamison making an easy jump to 49, but Sprately appears to have the body type of a 125er.
 
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