You tell me then. What names and statues need to be taken down?
Murray hall renamed to al sharpton building west
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You tell me then. What names and statues need to be taken down?
Everyone is chasing windmills. Don Quixote would be proud...
@CowboyUp is the don Quixote of the politics board
Confederate generals, Strom Thurmond, Jesse helms, Robert c Byrd
Is there a reason you think the building should be named after him? A name on a building is just that. Its not a building, a statue, or a monument that is being destroyed. Nothing is being torn down. Its nothing more than a way to say "We hold this person in high regard!"
Should oSu being stating that in this particular case?
That’s it? We can sign a 100 year contract and be done?? We can let later generations remove Obama and Bill Clinton for being against gay marriage?
Is there an answer to my question hidden in there somewhere?
Good riddance... I associate that place with torture. That's where the mathlab used to be... The most depressing place on campus.
Is that where we are in the lefty lunacy timeline? The start?
Why can’t you make parameters? Do you see how you people can never put a lid on your grievances? What can the rest of us do to make you shut the fvck up once and for all?
But there is no end. Your existence is poor me, poor this guy, poor that guy over there. You can’t even articulate the things you want to burn and change. It’s time to dissolve 60% of the federal government and let states do their thing. That would nullify a lot of the media and corporate bullying as well.
I've never tried to definitely state any set rules that can somehow be applied to all monuments, buildings, names etc. I don't think that's even possible.
I have another post in this thread that gives my general thoughts on destroying actual physical historical objects, and yes, my post you quoted did give my thoughts on what to consider when debating names on buildings.
Are you going to answer my question?
I will reread your question.
So you support something you’ve never thought out the long term ramifications of or possible parameters of and you chastise those who say let’s stop and decide if and how this ends. Good lord brother, we can’t share shit if you are gonna be like that?
Murray hall is the perfect way to explain historical context. What norms were and how they evolved over time and what we can learn from that movement. Alf Alfa Bill is one of THE MOST colorful people in Oklahoma history. Let’s come to grips with the degree of villain he would have been in his time among peers. That’s a dorm, it’s a study hall a classroom. It’s tradition, it hurts no one who isn’t looking to be offended by it. People from around the world have been in there under that name. It’s not a shrine it’s a snapshot in history and a very meaningful one at that. I encourage everyone to read about gov Murray.
Hahaha no nothing you can do. Just handle being on the wrong side of history with some grace.
End? There is no end. People have been destroying statues and monuments of things they feel symbolize their oppression for thousands of years and will until that big meteor finally wipes us all out.
If you can't succinctly state a universal law for name/statue removal then we are just going to have to leave this racist name on the building.
Then I say buzz off and go live somewhere with perfect heros.
When the demands become so ridiculous that you can summon the political will to stop them, that's where it stops.
Do these movements morph from changing names and knocking over statues to destroying employment of perceived real world enemies and screaming at them in public spheres?
It took WWII to stop the people of Germany.
Good template to follow, Pilt, if you want 100 million deaths.
And that is where we disagree, I don't see a name on a building as a snapshot in history. Its just a way to honor someone. Its not the same as a painting, or a statue or a monument. We rename buildings all the time. Its just a way to say "We admire this person enough to put his name here". Was the building BUILT to honor him? Did he fund it? If so, maybe that changes the discussion.
When the threat is breaking the windows and burning down the building of its not changed our leadership has no choice. When you let toddlers run wild this is what is happening. Through violence and a (social) media takeover the leftist toddlers are in the middle of a Marxist rumspringa right now.
He was admired in his time.
Are you prepared to rename every Martin luther king blvd in the country because of his anti gay convictions?
We all know Hitler was famously against buildings named after people known to be against interracial marriage
You literally have no rules, no parameters no plan. Just perpetual fighting over something until everyone can marry their pets and identity as marshmallows. Numbers will be racist. Letters will be racist. Plants will be racist.
I say fight liberals at every step. Every day they spend protesting a governor who has been dead for a century they aren’t marching toward the next poor me cause.
Just for the record Alfalfa Bill Murray was a Democrat as was his son Johnston who was also governor. Let us not forget that avowed racist Woodrow Wilson followed by Planned Parenthood's founder Margaret Sanger who wished to abort Black babies , something Planned Parenthood remains good at.
Got this from @MegaPoke on the platinum board:
At least you got out before one by one we see:
Pete lose his guns
Statues of Pete and Spirit rider torn down
Frank Eaton is claimed to be racist and part of the patriarchy (hsh commentary Frank Eaton lists “Indian fighter” in his autobiography which drives a majority of his story found online today. it wouldn’t take long to find a silver bullet in his columns that ran in the perkins journal for years)
"Bullet" declared a violent name and rename either George or Floyd. And the riding of him is cruel and specist.
"Cowboys" declared to be sexist and racist and we are renamed and rebranded something bland and inoffensive like the OSU Pelicans.
At least you got out before one by one we see:
Pete lose his guns
Statues of Pete and Spirit rider torn down
Frank Eaton is claimed to be racist and part of the patriarchy (hsh commentary Frank Eaton lists “Indian fighter” in his autobiography which drives a majority of his story found online today. it wouldn’t take long to find a silver bullet in his columns that ran in the perkins journal for years)
"Bullet" declared a violent name and rename either George or Floyd. And the riding of him is cruel and specist.
"Cowboys" declared to be sexist and racist and we are renamed and rebranded something bland and inoffensive like the OSU Pelicans.
As out of step as it may be with this board I would propose that the underground railroad was actually a good thing.
Hey look at me you guys are racist and I’m not! Look what societal capital I have assigned to myself!!
