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Yes, if only we had thorough investigations into the last two democrat administrations. Seven different Benghazi investigations, I believe?

How many special counsel investigations were held?

Congressional investigations barely go anywhere these days. Everyone is too worried about themselves to truly investigate. They're all for camera time on the evening news.
 

When Donald Trump visited The Washington Post in March 2016 to be interviewed by the newspaper's editorial board, publisher Fred Ryan opened the session by asking whether the candidate could reveal any members of his foreign policy team, which he had not yet unveiled.

George Papadopoulos was the third person Trump highlighted.

"He's an energy and oil consultant, excellent guy," Trump said of Papadopoulos.
 

When Donald Trump visited The Washington Post in March 2016 to be interviewed by the newspaper's editorial board, publisher Fred Ryan opened the session by asking whether the candidate could reveal any members of his foreign policy team, which he had not yet unveiled.

George Papadopoulos was the third person Trump highlighted.

"He's an energy and oil consultant, excellent guy," Trump said of Papadopoulos.
Do you really think that people who support the Trump agenda care that he uses talking points of people he doesn't know who are at one meeting and calls them an "excellent guy" we know he exaggerates about almost everything and we don't care.

It's all about tearing down the establishment. He defeated everything that as been thrown at him ever since he declared.

All he's got to do his keep his 38 to 40 percent of loyal supporters and he can't be defeated because the other 60 percent are fractured and can't coalesce into one opposition.
 
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Do you really think that people who support the Trump agenda care that he uses talking points of people he doesn't know who are at one meeting and calls them an "excellent guy" we know he exaggerates about almost everything and we don't care.

It's all about tearing down the establishment. He defeated everything that as been thrown at him ever since he declared.

All he's got to do his keep his 38 to 40 percent of loyal supporters and he can't be defeated because the other 60 percent are fractured and can't coalesce into one opposition.

Since you asked....

No, I don't think people who uncritically support Trump no matter what care that he lies to them or lies to the media.

I also don't think people who support Trump support him because of his "agenda".

I don't think he has a coherent agenda beyond promoting himself and keeping that 38% that construes his base worshipping their Beloved Leader.

I also don't have much respect for Trumpie cheerleaders like yourself that don't give a shit what he does or says....the same way I don't have much respect for jocksniffers that don't care what sports figures say or do or how they act as long as they are scoring for your team. Folks like you and Guns and NZ are irrationally caught up in an cult of personality and your unquestioning loyalty is embarrassing and a little bit scary.

The comment I left on NZ's post wasn't particularly directly at him though. I realize he is well beyond reacting rationally or critically with regards to anything Trump says or does. It was directed at posters that profess to not be Trumpies like yourself, that have some reservations about his behavior, and/or profess to voting for him because he wasn't Hillary.
 
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Do you really think that people who support the Trump agenda care that he uses talking points of people he doesn't know who are at one meeting and calls them an "excellent guy" we know he exaggerates about almost everything and we don't care.

It's all about tearing down the establishment. He defeated everything that as been thrown at him ever since he declared.

All he's got to do his keep his 38 to 40 percent of loyal supporters and he can't be defeated because the other 60 percent are fractured and can't coalesce into one opposition.

Since you asked....

No, I don't think people who uncritically support Trump no matter what care that he lies to them or lies to the media.

I also don't think people who support Trump support him because of his "agenda".

I don't think he has a coherent agenda beyond promoting himself and keeping that 38% that construes his base worshipping their Beloved Leader.

I also don't have much respect for Trumpie cheerleaders like yourself that don't give a shit what he does or says....the same way I don't have much respect for jocksniffers that don't care what sports figures say or do or how they act as long as they are scoring for your team. Folks like you and Guns and NZ are irrationally caught up in an cult of personality and your unquestioning loyalty is embarrassing and a little bit scary.

The comment I left on NZ's post wasn't particularly directly at him though. I realize he is well beyond reacting rationally or critically with regards to anything Trump says or does. It was directed at posters that profess to not be Trumpies like yourself, that have some reservations about his behavior, and/or profess to voting for him because he wasn't Hillary.
The problem with your hypocracy is your don't acknowledge the complete and utter coruption of the Obama administration and the Clinton's and their money laundering operation The Clinton Foundation.

We've adopted everything you've supported. The ends justify the means. F you and your liberal PC bullsh!t ridiculousness. Liberalism sounds nice but Russia says hi, it's totally not feasible.
 
Do you really think that people who support the Trump agenda care that he uses talking points of people he doesn't know who are at one meeting and calls them an "excellent guy" we know he exaggerates about almost everything and we don't care.

It's all about tearing down the establishment. He defeated everything that as been thrown at him ever since he declared.

All he's got to do his keep his 38 to 40 percent of loyal supporters and he can't be defeated because the other 60 percent are fractured and can't coalesce into one opposition.

That's the most intellectually honest post I've seen from a biff supporter.

They know he's lying to them, don't care because he'll destroy their enemy, and will look the other way to get it done. What can go wrong?
 
Do you really think that people who support the Trump agenda care that he uses talking points of people he doesn't know who are at one meeting and calls them an "excellent guy" we know he exaggerates about almost everything and we don't care.

It's all about tearing down the establishment. He defeated everything that as been thrown at him ever since he declared.

All he's got to do his keep his 38 to 40 percent of loyal supporters and he can't be defeated because the other 60 percent are fractured and can't coalesce into one opposition.

That's the most intellectually honest post I've seen from a biff supporter.

They know he's lying to them, don't care because he'll destroy their enemy, and will look the other way to get it done. What can go wrong?
He's just using exaggeration to make his point.

Different than flat out using lies.
"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" "If like your plan your can keep your plan" "The ACA will safe families $2500 a year".
 
The problem with your hypocracy is your don't acknowledge the complete and utter coruption of the Obama administration and the Clinton's and their money laundering operation The Clinton Foundation.

We've adopted everything you've supported. The ends justify the means. F you and your liberal PC bullsh!t ridiculousness. Liberalism sounds nice but Russia says hi, it's totally not feasible.

You short out and devolve into shrill hyperbole and ranting over any dem potus. Every bit of it is a right wing media mantra that you heard and swallowed. You've been ranting about dem prez's for 25 years so you could have.... this?
 
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He's just using exaggeration to make his point.

Different than flat out using lies.
"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" "If like your plan your can keep your plan" "The ACA will safe families $2500 a year".

Let's hold biff to the same standard. How's the wall, china, north korea, isis (NY says hi), health care, the tax cut, not having time to golf if elected, and totally distracting investigation going?
 
The problem with your hypocracy is your don't acknowledge the complete and utter coruption of the Obama administration and the Clinton's and their money laundering operation The Clinton Foundation.

We've adopted everything you've supported. The ends justify the means. F you and your liberal PC bullsh!t ridiculousness. Liberalism sounds nice but Russia says hi, it's totally not feasible.

You short out and devolve into shrill hyperbole and ranting over any dem potus. Every bit of it is a right wing media mantra that you heard and swallowed. You've been ranting about dem prez's for 25 years so you could have.... this?
Don't forget about GWB he sucked as bad as President Obama. I've waited 25 years for someone to f the whole Bureaucrat state.
 
The problem with your hypocracy is your don't acknowledge the complete and utter coruption of the Obama administration and the Clinton's and their money laundering operation The Clinton Foundation.

We've adopted everything you've supported. The ends justify the means. F you and your liberal PC bullsh!t ridiculousness. Liberalism sounds nice but Russia says hi, it's totally not feasible.

You are full of shit.

I absolutely did and do acknowledge the failings and wrongdoings of the Obama administration and the Clintons. I just evaluate it reasonably and rationally...like I have here... instead of basically deciding the other side is the devil in all things.

Looks like I struck a nerve. It is all about your side versus their (not my) side. You really have abandoned all willingness to evaluate or decide issues rationally and critically. It's just war for you...with your fellow Americans....unthinking, unquestioning, war. You've become every single thing you claim to hate about the "other side".

Congratulations.

I feel sorry for you.
 
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He's just using exaggeration to make his point.

Different than flat out using lies.
"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" "If like your plan your can keep your plan" "The ACA will safe families $2500 a year".

No...your Beloved Leader lies.

As you said earlier though, the ends justifies the means for you.

So what not just acknowledge the truth?

He lies.

Obama lied at times.

Hillary lied at times.

Trump lies a lot. Always has. Always will.
 
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No...your Beloved Leader lies.

As you said earlier though, the ends justifies the means for you.

So what not just acknowledge the truth?

He lies.

Obama lied a lot.

Hillary lied a lot.

Trump lies a lot. Always has. Always will.

Fixed.
 
I like to get people's blood flowing every once in awhile. It good for them and entertaining for me.

You blood sure seems to be flowing as well.

Straight out of one head and into the other when it comes to Trump.
 
Not a stretch in the slightest so I hope not.

Why place them as morally superior?
 
I disagree with you that one can know these indictments have no bearing on the election. I don't think one can make such a statement at this point unless one is trying to defend Trump.

Also, the fact that a special counsel is trying to establish leverage doesn't mean this is a witch-hunt. That is what prosecutors and investigators do. People are often not forthcoming with the truth and therefore, pressure has to be brought to bear. Mueller is doing his job.

There is also no need to change the conversation to what other politicians or individuals did and the standard they faced. There have been plenty of investigations of past politicians. Trump is not being held to some different standard or being treated unfairly. The attempt to change the conversation to Clinton, or Bush, or Obama, or anyone else is deflection. Trump and his team are under investigation. No need to talk about others.

It seems aix that you are just repeating what Trump tweets out in his moments of frustration. You are using very similar terms that he uses, "witch-hunt", and engaging in the same defenses, "what about Clinton".

I'm sorry, I'm not on twitter, so not sure what Trump's tweets say. As for "what about Clinton", I think in this thread my responses have been solely focused on her as part of the establishment. I also call out Obama, Bush, and the last "dozen" presidents.

As for witch-hunt, I'm sorry but if the best you can present is some half-baked lobbying charges from 5 years ago, and are hoping to use that to 'flip' someone to get more info. My problem with that is that it basically throws out any presumption of innocence. That's the action you perform when you know who the bad guy is and am simply trying to gather solid evidence to do so. So if that's what Mueller is doing, then its lost any pretense to being fact-finding. Its simply a persecution.

The other problem I have is that I have zero trust of the investigators. They are clearly part of the establishment and they've proven for at least my lifetime, that they will lie, cheat, steal, or do anything else to maintain power.
 
Not a stretch in the slightest so I hope not.

Why place them as morally superior?

Fair point.

It was probably as a reaction at 4:46am to Headhunter trying to place his guy as morally superior by claiming Trump doesn't lie...he just exaggerates.

To clarify, I do not place Obama or Hillary as morally superior to Trump. I pretty much think all three of them are calculated, craven politicians in it for themselves.
 
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