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Iowa is totally fed-up with Trump's mean tweets.

It does not appear that any Republican candidate can overtake Trump for the nomination. But I think DeSantis - and even Ramaswamy - would light up Biden in the general. I don’t think Trump can beat Biden. IMO the Republicans are being stupidly stubborn by backing Trump.
What makes you think that? The more people get to know Desantis the lower his poll numbers get.
 
What makes you think that? The more people get to know Desantis the lower his poll numbers get.
His poll numbers would be very good in the general. His primary poll numbers are not good because the Trump faithful see him as an ungrateful traitor to their chosen one. How dare he think he’d be a better president than Donald Trump!
 
His poll numbers would be very good in the general. His primary poll numbers are not good because the Trump faithful see him as an ungrateful traitor to their chosen one. How dare he think he’d be a better president than Donald Trump!
But in reality people liked the idea of him as a Trump alternative, until they learned more about him.
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What makes you think someone who is trying to outflank Trump on the right, with no charisma, and a history of voting for Medicare cuts is going to fare better in the general election? What is the positive case?
 
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But in reality people liked the idea of him as a Trump alternative, until they learned more about him.
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What makes you think someone who is trying to outflank Trump on the right, with no charisma, and a history of voting for Medicare cuts is going to fare better in the general election? What is the positive case?
Blah, blah, blah. DeSantis regularly kicked the Democrats’ asses and people from the moderate left to the far right loved him. All he’d have to show is his Florida record vs Biden’s and it would be game over. The only stumbling block between DeSantis as the next president is the giant ego of a guy with orange hair and his unquestioning devoted disciples. But what do I know? I’m gonna vote for Kennedy!
 
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Blah, blah, blah. DeSantis regularly kicked the Democrats’ asses and people from the moderate left to the far right loved him. All he’d have to show is his Florida record vs Biden’s and it would be game over. The only stumbling block between DeSantis as the next president is the giant ego of a guy with orange hair and his unquestioning devoted disciples. But what do I know? I’m gonna vote for Kennedy!
He beat a meth head by the skin of his teeth and a former Republican in an increasingly red state.
 
He beat a meth head by the skin of his teeth and a former Republican in an increasingly red state.
He single handedly turned Florida into a red state. You’re hanging too hard onto the Democrat spin. People from all over the country flocked to Florida because they saw what kind of society he was defending against the collectivist onslaught. IMO he would beat Biden in a walk, there’d be no amount of cheating the Democrats could employ to overcome the destruction. But what do I know? I’m a Kennedy man!
 
He single handedly turned Florida into a red state. You’re hanging too hard onto the Democrat spin.
Trump won Florida by more in 2016 than Desantis did in 2018.
People from all over the country flocked to Florida because they saw what kind of society he was defending against the collectivist onslaught. IMO he would beat Biden in a walk, there’d be no amount of cheating the Democrats could employ to overcome the destruction. But what do I know? I’m a Kennedy man!
Alright Dan. It's too bad we'll never know since he will get blown out in the primary by a thrice indicted septuagenarian who has already lost to Biden once. Sounds like an amazing politician
 
Trump won Florida by more in 2016 than Desantis did in 2018.

Alright Dan. It's too bad we'll never know since he will get blown out in the primary by a thrice indicted septuagenarian who has already lost to Biden once. Sounds like an amazing politician
Yeah, we won’t know because the ultimate carny barker has the Republican crowd mesmerized. BTW did Trump win Florida in 2016 by more than DeSantis won it in 2022? I honestly don’t know (or particularly care), but I thought you might know and I thought that might be why you latched onto 2018 instead of 2022.
 
Yeah, we won’t know because the ultimate carny barker has the Republican crowd mesmerized. BTW did Trump win Florida in 2016 by more than DeSantis won it in 2022? I honestly don’t know (or particularly care), but I thought you might know and I thought that might be why you latched onto 2018 instead of 2022.
Desantis won in 2022 by a lot (but by less than Mike Dewine in Ohio in 22, who would be a vastly superior candidate)
 
Desantis won in 2022 by a lot (but by less than Mike Dewine in Ohio in 22, who would be a vastly superior candidate)
No, Dewine is way too nerdy and too “establishment” for today’s Republican voters.

Let me add a side note: It has been fascinating (and for me personally a little disappointing) to watch you transition from a socialist Bernie Bro rebel into a @my_2cents establishment Democrat. You ought to tone it down a little bit. I know you establishment types are terrified of DeSantis, are convinced you can easily beat Trump (on that I agree) and so feel obligated to work tirelessly to trash DeSantis and do what you can to keep the Trump nincompoops on the reservation. Fear not! All you have to do is read this thread and you will know that nothing and nobody will get them off your preferred Republican candidate. Save your big anti-DeSantis guns for 2028 when he might try again.
 
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95% of MAGA just cares about getting under leftists skin, which Trump is so good at. So he’s their champion no matter what. They have no consistent ideology outside of that so no non Trump candidate has a chance because platform means nothing to those dipshits and there’s not a human on earth that outtrumps Trump.
 
No, Dewine is way too nerdy and too “establishment” for today’s Republican voters.

Let me add a side note: It has been fascinating (and for me personally a little disappointing) to watch you transition from a socialist Bernie Bro rebel into a @my_2cents establishment Democrat. You ought to tone it down a little bit. I know you establishment types are terrified of DeSantis, are convinced you can easily beat Trump (on that I agree) and so feel obligated to work tirelessly to trash DeSantis and do what you can to keep the Trump nincompoops on the reservation. Fear not! All you have to do is read this thread and you will know that nothing and nobody will get them off your preferred Republican candidate. Save your big anti-DeSantis guns for 2028 when he might try again.
But what do I know? I identify as a progressive and I want RFK Jr. to win. And if not Jr my second choice is Cornel West!
 
No, Dewine is way too nerdy and too “establishment” for today’s Republican voters.

Let me add a side note: It has been fascinating (and for me personally a little disappointing) to watch you transition from a socialist Bernie Bro rebel into a @my_2cents establishment Democrat. You ought to tone it down a little bit. I know you establishment types are terrified of DeSantis, are convinced you can easily beat Trump (on that I agree) and so feel obligated to work tirelessly to trash DeSantis and do what you can to keep the Trump nincompoops on the reservation. Fear not! All you have to do is read this thread and you will know that nothing and nobody will get them off your preferred Republican candidate. Save your big anti-DeSantis guns for 2028 when he might try again.

If thinking Trump has a better shot at beating Biden than Desantis is an establishment Democrat position, I am happy to be joined by so many Democrats on this board and my hopes are now up that Oklahoma will go blue in 2024
 
If thinking Trump has a better shot at beating Biden than Desantis is an establishment Democrat position, I am happy to be joined by so many Democrats on this board and my hopes are now up that Oklahoma will go blue in 2024
Don’t get carried away by your transition!
 
If thinking Trump has a better shot at beating Biden than Desantis is an establishment Democrat position, I am happy to be joined by so many Democrats on this board and my hopes are now up that Oklahoma will go blue in 2024
Deeeeelusional. Kevin Stitt got a second term Stitt!
 
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95% of MAGA just cares about getting under leftists skin, which Trump is so good at. So he’s their champion no matter what. They have no consistent ideology outside of that so no non Trump candidate has a chance because platform means nothing to those dipshits and there’s not a human on earth that outtrumps Trump.
I'll support anyone who is against the creepy shit you "progressives" keep pushing. I'm not the only one. Preach Rogan, preach.

 
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