He could come back as a volunteer but he would not be trusted because he already left mid season. Seems pretty clear to me.So he could come back and sit behind Daton. But no chance that he is welcome back? Which one is it?
He could come back as a volunteer but he would not be trusted because he already left mid season. Seems pretty clear to me.So he could come back and sit behind Daton. But no chance that he is welcome back? Which one is it?
This is great news. I rewatched one of Deans matches recently where he did one of his “barely win but frustrate his opponent to death by letting himself get nearly pinned but holding off the takedown so effectively that the NCAA made a rule against his signature move” things lol. Dude was tenaciousListened to the new dynasty defined podcast, liked that Dean Heil, Dakota Geer, gas tank Gary (Ohio state, Oregon state heavyweight ) are in the room. Blair’s is right look forward with the team we have now. Would like to be in the room to see the battle between Sammy, Jamison, and Willams.
He could come back as a volunteer but he would not be trusted because he already left mid season. Seems pretty clear to me.
I recall when Gfeller told Coach Smith he didn’t think he felt good enough to wrestle a match. It was a while before he got back to starter.He could come back as a volunteer but he would not be trusted because he already left mid season. Seems pretty clear to me.
I meant he’d be volunteering his time. As opposed to being in scholarship. I’d be real surprised if Trevor wanted to come back and was given $$There is no volunteer position anymore
Thanks Trevor, I mean “Blair”There’s no use in discussing it he is not coming back
Williams doesn’t seem physically ready for 157. If he has to go 157 I think he doesn’t do well, and it messes with his head/confidence etc.Alright…time to go ahead and ask this…
There seems to be reason to be confident there is a potential solution out there at 157.
If there is not…repeat IF there is not, in order to fit what pieces are available together, could we see:
125: Spratley
133: Fix
141: Alvarez/Jameson
149: Jameson/Alvarez
157: Williams
165: Olejnik
174: Plott
184: Thompson
197: Surber
285: Carroll
Alright…time to go ahead and ask this…
There seems to be reason to be confident there is a potential solution out there at 157.
If there is not…repeat IF there is not, in order to fit what pieces are available together, could we see:
125: Spratley
133: Fix
141: Alvarez/Jameson
149: Jameson/Alvarez
157: Williams
165: Olejnik
174: Plott
184: Thompson
197: Surber
285: Carroll
Spratly will start at 25 Jamison and Álvarez will battle it out. May the best man win.Final Rofkin class rankings and evaluation. Nothing new really but here’s the snippet on us.
“Evaluation: The only program to scoop three of the Top 10, OK State's class could also be considered the most college-ready. Up top, Thompson and Carroll both made JR World Teams and could be paying dividends as early as November. Hughes ended the year ranked #1 in the country at 132 and projects as an annual AA-caliber lightweight. Heeg and Robb provide some depth up top.
With four years remaining each, Spratley and Jamison both provide instant impact potential. Spratley made JR Trials finals the last two season and could be the 125 starter immediately. Jamison won Fargo two summer ago but has wrestled only sparingly since.”
I’ll take Jamison over Alverez at this point don’t forget Jaylin Harper has one more year also but I still look for a transfer 57I think there is enough trusted insight right now to think Alvarez at 141 and Williams at 149 which I honestly think is best for both of them.
Alvarez at 141 is a legitimate AA candidate. Think he loses that up at 149 and have very little confidence Williams has much success up at 157. He can be dangerous in spurts at 149 IMO.
Looks like it will be a surprise and late addition at 157 or it will be a rough hole for us in 2023/24.
Alvarez is tough so that's good to hearI’ll take Jamison over Alverez at this point don’t forget Jaylin Harper has one more year also but I still look for a transfer 57
I’ll take Jamison over Alverez at this point don’t forget Jaylin Harper has one more year also but I still look for a transfer 57
Would LOVE to see itThe other potential wrinkle is Daton wanting to go 125.
He didn’t rule it out in his most recent interview and he did say he was for sure going 57kg to prep to make Olympics and would work all year at being in a good position for the cut.
If Jalen wants to wrestle, he will make 57 he can’t beat the other two at 65Jalin Harper is a serviceable option at 157 and probably the best option we have currently on the roster to go that weight. He really would be just an experienced body to throw out there. Williams definitely isn't ready for 157. Question is can Jalin still make 157? He wrestled all his matches last year at 165 and will be going into his 6th year in the room if he returns. I still think we will end up with a late addition transfer to fill the spot. Probably not a name that will make any sort of splash though.
Don’t forget the Russian kid is also an option, but he would have to be disciplined with his weight would be bigIf Jalen wants to wrestle, he will make 57 he can’t beat the other two at 65
Is there a possibility Plott redshirts?Don’t forget the Russian kid is also an option, but he would have to be disciplined with his weight would be big
I really don't think Daton going 125 helps us much at all. He has finalist potential at 25 or 33, but who would be our 33 if he went down? I think Spratley is an AA candidate at 125, who besides Daton could AA at 133? Hughes is a stud, but I think he should sit behind Daton this year.Didn’t Williams just wrestle freestyle at 143 lb? Don’t see how he could make that cut and then roll 157 in just a few months. I mean it could be done.
I like Daton at 125. Vito is a beast. And 125 looks to have cleared out several seniors from last year. Plus it makes sense for Olympic weight. Would be a little disappointed not to see Spratley start though.
I really don't think Daton going 125 helps us much at all. He has finalist potential at 25 or 33, but who would be our 33 if he went down? I think Spratley is an AA candidate at 125, who besides Daton could AA at 133? Hughes is a stud, but I think he should sit behind Daton this year.
I understand that and I wouldn't complain if that's what he or the coaches decide to do. With the way we've finished the last couple years I'm pretty sure the coaches want to maximize points though.Daton possibly going 125 won’t be a decision made with the idea of what helps “us.”
The program will 100% back Datons goal to making an Olympic team. If he and the coaches believe wrestling more down to weight will do that then that’s what they will do.
No not a chanceIs there a possibility Plott redshirts?
Daton will not be at 125 Spratley will be 125 Daton will go 133Daton possibly going 125 won’t be a decision made with the idea of what helps “us.”
The program will 100% back Datons goal to making an Olympic team. If he and the coaches believe wrestling more down to weight will do that then that’s what they will do.
Your right on pointI really don't think Daton going 125 helps us much at all. He has finalist potential at 25 or 33, but who would be our 33 if he went down? I think Spratley is an AA candidate at 125, who besides Daton could AA at 133? Hughes is a stud, but I think he should sit behind Daton this year.
Daton will not be at 125 Spratley will be 125 Daton will go 133
Daton himself said he wasn’t sure and could go 125 in a recent interview so while I would agree it’s unlikely it’s not totally out of the question.
I hate this.Franek and Caliendo to Iowa.