I am sorry to hear that as Mr. Earl always make that tournament but this year we both have other obligations. Maybe I can catch a little of it on Flo. Either KC Scott or Mr. Earl and I have made that tournament when it was in Enid and then OCU for a few years and now Tulsa. Good time to look at both our Oklahoma wrestlers and how they stack up against the rest of the country. Even my good friend Mike Tognetti attended a few back in the day, Mike is too tied up training quarter horses to attend but would like to hear from him.Jr Nationals
I may have missed it but haven't seen anyone talk shit on Bo Bassett's wrestling. No one. I also have no issue with self promotion. More power to him on that. As for the Mineo tweet, I was most concerned about that, but once I found out that Mineo stole it from Bo's dad, I don't have an issue with that either. Bo wasn't involved. What Willie needs to remember is that not everyone participates in social media or is comfortable in promoting oneself, and from what I've seen, that is where the confusion/comments are coming from. Bo is a great prospect.
Old school guys don’t like self promotion and wrestling is one of the last old school sports. I think he’s done it the right way (what about himself that he promotes) but the criticism is predictable imoI feel like I’m talking crazy pills or missed something when it comes to Bo. I’ve listened to several interview with the kid lately and have been pretty blow away with how mature/well spoken he comes across for someone who hasn’t started his junior year of HS.
Bingo. It's largely a generational thing. Willie making a big deal of it in a negative way misses that point entirely. Rather than attack people for their opinions, he may be better off educating detractors on how young people like Bo use social media versus the average wrestling fan, and how changes in what a college athlete can do makes some self promotion almost required. It's that difference that is driving this discussion, and a perfect opportunity for Willie to take the lead on the subject without shooting people.Old school guys don’t like self promotion and wrestling is one of the last old school sports. I think he’s done it the right way (what about himself that he promotes) but the criticism is predictable imo
Lots of good discussion potential in there but he does seem to like ranting lol
It is a really simple case study with the data already provided.Bingo. It's largely a generational thing. Willie making a big deal of it in a negative way misses that point entirely. Rather than attack people for their opinions, he may be better off educating detractors on how young people like Bo use social media versus the average wrestling fan, and how changes in what a college athlete can do makes some self promotion almost required. It's that difference that is driving this discussion, and a perfect opportunity for Willie to take the lead on the subject without shooting people.
One of his most famous posters or memes is "I'm not talented... I'm obsessed!"It is a really simple case study with the data already provided.
Elite guys that can come in and win Titles day 1 will be doing these things.
CS.1 - AJ Ferrari, aka Mr. FastTwitch. Self promotes more than Don King and comes off as a total egomaniac
CS.2 - Bo, aka MachineGunMindset. Self promotes with instructional videos and evidence of hard work. Even has his aka as mantra for scoring lots of points...not talking about his muscles.
It just makes me roll my eyes when people yell at the sky because Bo (a kid who hasn't started his junior year) is active on social media.Bingo. It's largely a generational thing. Willie making a big deal of it in a negative way misses that point entirely. Rather than attack people for their opinions, he may be better off educating detractors on how young people like Bo use social media versus the average wrestling fan, and how changes in what a college athlete can do makes some self promotion almost required. It's that difference that is driving this discussion, and a perfect opportunity for Willie to take the lead on the subject without shooting people.
I looked at the Mat thread and one guy said he was training there but not flipping. I guess we’ll see tho.Anyone hear of a rumor of Dee flipping to ISU? ISU boards are claiming they are potentially flipping a big recruit and on The Mat forums they’re claiming Dee is in Iowa.
I saw that as well but ISU board blowing up about a huge flip for them I was just connecting the dots.I looked at the Mat thread and one guy said he was training there but not flipping. I guess we’ll see tho.
If he wants to follow Perry instead of DT, that seems pretty short sighted in my opinion. I get that they have a relationship, but come on.CP has been after him hard.
David Carr has trained in the PSU wrestling room multiple times. He is tight with Aaron Brooks and his brother is an assistant coach at Lock Haven, 30 minute drive between the two wrestling rooms. The first time Carr spent a couple weeks in central PA rolling around daily in the PSU room the PSU board was full of Carr to PSU speculation.I saw that as well but ISU board blowing up about a huge flip for them I was just connecting the dots.
Willie confirmed on the mat forum he is training in Ames.
That would be difficult for young prospects, but the proof is in the pudding.I think the "clean living" being unrealistic for young college kids is being used against us real hard.
My only thing is that you can look at the track records of a guy like CP and a guy like DT or OSU vs PSU over the last decade and quickly see that there is a difference in results when there has been a difference of commitment.
This may be a longer rebuild for DT than we had hoped. It may be a complete rebuild behind kids that know exactly what they are signing up for and are that committed. who knows.
Correct me if I’m wrong though but wasn’t his commitment to OSU kind of up in the air? I thought I remember Willie and others saying they thought Iowa was a real threatAny talk of a sudden change of heart for Dee seems irrationally premature.
He’s been a Cowboy in the making for a very long time.
His family is entrenched in Stillwater.
Need to see something tangible to even start to believe it.
Well said and agree 100%. Only thing that's slightly unsettling is that Dee said he was going to commit to another program and talked to Perry SR and decided to stay home in Stillwater. He has a close relationship with the Perry's from what I gathered.Any talk of a sudden change of heart for Dee seems irrationally premature.
He’s been a Cowboy in the making for a very long time.
His family is entrenched in Stillwater.
Need to see something tangible to even start to believe it.
I don’t recall hearing anything like that.Correct me if I’m wrong though but wasn’t his commitment to OSU kind of up in the air? I thought I remember Willie and others saying they thought Iowa was a real threat
Maybe I dreamed that. A lot has happened
Same thing was said about Fix, thoughCorrect me if I’m wrong though but wasn’t his commitment to OSU kind of up in the air? I thought I remember Willie and others saying they thought Iowa was a real threat
Maybe I dreamed that. A lot has happened
You aren't wrong. There has been stuff along the way.Correct me if I’m wrong though but wasn’t his commitment to OSU kind of up in the air? I thought I remember Willie and others saying they thought Iowa was a real threat
Maybe I dreamed that. A lot has happened
Which was Iowa from what I gathered. Idk man. I’m definitely feeling like we’re just waiting for the axe to fall. He’s obviously very interested or he wouldnt have everyone hosting him and jumping back inWell said and agree 100%. Only thing that's slightly unsettling is that Dee said he was going to commit to another program and talked to Perry SR and decided to stay home in Stillwater. He has a close relationship with the Perry's from what I gathered.
Didn’t we say these words for Mark Perry Jr?Any talk of a sudden change of heart for Dee seems irrationally premature.
He’s been a Cowboy in the making for a very long time.
His family is entrenched in Stillwater.
Need to see something tangible to even start to believe it.
ya think?I may have missed it
who said 'on his wrestling' ?but haven't seen anyone talk shit on Bo Bassett's wrestling.
i posted it ON SOCIAL MEDIAWhat Willie needs to remember is that not everyone participates in social media
Not sure what's happened to you since B1Gs Willie. You seem to still be feeling the sting from the fight you had with the PSU crowd when you felt that the #34 seed from Nebraska should have made it into Nationals over Carter Starocci because he didn't wrestle B1Gs. You attack people right and left on all forums lately, and people are becoming far less contained in their responses back to you.ya think?
who said 'on his wrestling' ?
i posted it ON SOCIAL MEDIA
Bo Bassett's 'self promotion' is on social media.
the criticism of it is ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
this entire topic is regarding SOCIAL MEDIA.
anyone that read my tweet, on twitter, knows wtf i'm talking about.
read more and post less for christ's sake. you're nonsensical.
Completely different circumstancesDidn’t we say these words for Mark Perry Jr?
I think you're jumping the shark Willie. Just go back to bed and sleep it off. I'm not the one who peed into your Wheaties, but I know who did.wtf are you talking about? your entire response, item by item, is inaccurate or nonsensical.
the bottom line is - you responded to my social media post by saying 'willie has to remember not everyone is on social media'
if you don't understand the lunacy of that statement i can't help you. but keep writing more jibberish. you get more annoying and credible with each post.
Your posts lately have been incredibly disrespectful to multiple posters.wtf are you talking about? your entire response, item by item, is inaccurate or nonsensical.
the bottom line is - you responded to my social media post by saying 'willie has to remember not everyone is on social media'
if you don't understand the lunacy of that statement i can't help you. but keep writing more jibberish. you get more annoying and credible with each post.
I suggest the ignore button. All forums have them Willie. None of what I posted was absolute nonsense, and in fact wasn't even nonsense. You're trying to bully me and members of this and other forums to stop posting things you don't want said publicly. It's as simple as that. You realize it's obvious right? You tried your bullying on the PSU board with Starocci and they ran you off for a few days. Maybe you need a break. Just leave me alone. I don't have time.probably b/c i don't respect their posts. a lot of absolute nonsense.
Everyone on this forum is welcome to his opinion, including you. If you don't respect a post you could simply state your reasons respectfully like the others on this forum.probably b/c i don't respect their posts. a lot of absolute nonsense.