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Junior Men Freestyle Finals Matches:
100lbs - #1 Michael Rundell (IL) VS #7 Xavier Diaz (PA)
106lbs - #17 Christopher Swann (GA) VS #7 Antonio Quiroz (NV)
113lbs - #5 Ayden Dodd (OH) VS #7 Dunia Sibomana (NY)
120lbs - #5 Gauge Botero (PA) VS #15 Brock Rothermel (PA)
126lbs - #2 Aaron Seidel (PA) VS #8 Koufax Christensen (IA)
132lbs - #1 Jax Forrest (PA) VS #2 Seth Mendoza (IL)
138lbs - #9 Sergio Vega (AZ) VS #6 Drew Gorman (GA)
144lbs - #4 Daniel Zepeda (CA) VS #11 Smokey McClure (WA)
150lbs - #1 Landon Robideau (MN) VS #11 Paul Kelly (CA)
157lbs - #12 Isaias Jimenez (AZ) VS #3 Melvin Miller (PA)
165lbs - UR Elliot Humphries (MA) VS #3 Alessio Perentin (NJ)
175lbs - #2 William Henckel (CT) VS #29 Ryan Burton (NJ)
190lbs - #5 Harvey Ludington (NJ) VS #3 Cade Ziola (NE)
215lbs - #5 Angelo Posada (CA) VS UR Anthony Harris (NJ)
285lbs - #9 Daniel Herrera (IA) VS #6 Rocco Dellagatta (NJ)
 
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175lb Semi-Final - #1 Adam Waters (PA) VS #29 Ryan Burton (NJ)

P1:
Tying up, then breaking, Burton trying a 2 on 1, but no luck
Waters shoots, almost gets a leg, but Burton counters & gets behind for a TD, 2-0, restart
Tying up, Waters pushing forward, trying a 2 on 1, but Burton with solid defense & they're back to center. Burton working an underhook, Waters pushing forward a little
Passivity warning Waters, restart, 1:21 left
Waters working an underhook & they break,, 1-min left
Burton reaches for a leg, but nothing
Burton passivity warning
Tying up in the center, Waters comes forward, Burton gets to a leg & quickly gets behind for another TD, 4-0, restart
Tying up & circling as the period expires
Burton's pretty solid for a #29 seed

P2:
Back to action, Waters working an underhook, but Burton with solid defense, Burton reaches for a leg, the comes around the other side, they're scrambling & Burton gets the TD, 6-0, restart
Burton is slick & has solid defense
Tying up, Waters pushing forward, shoots & gets in deep & picks up the TD, 6-2, restart, 1:26 left
Tying up & circling, 1-min left
Waters shoots, Burton stones him & picks up another TD, 8-2, restart
Tying up & not much more action, 30-sec left
More of the same as the clock runs out

#29 Ryan Burton DEC #1 Adam Waters 8-2
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
Junior Men Freestyle Finals Matches:
100lbs - #1 Michael Rundell (IL) VS #7 Xavier Diaz (PA)
106lbs - #17 Christopher Swann (GA) VS #7 Antonio Quiroz (NV)
113lbs - #5 Ayden Dodd (OH) VS #7 Dunia Sibomana (NY)
120lbs - #5 Gauge Botero (PA) VS #15 Brock Rothermel (PA)
126lbs - #2 Aaron Seidel (PA) VS #8 Koufax Christensen (IA)
132lbs - #1 Jax Forrest (PA) VS #2 Seth Mendoza (IL)
138lbs - #9 Sergio Vega (AZ) VS #6 Drew Gorman (GA)
144lbs - #4 Daniel Zepeda (CA) VS #11 Smokey McClure (WA)
150lbs - #1 Landon Robideau (MN) VS #11 Paul Kelly (CA)
157lbs - #12 Isaias Jimenez (AZ) VS #3 Melvin Miller (PA)
165lbs - UR Elliot Humphries (MA) VS #3 Alessio Perentin (NJ)
175lbs - #2 William Henckel (CT) VS #29 Ryan Burton (NJ)
190lbs - #5 Harvey Ludington (NJ) VS #3 Cade Ziola (NE)
215lbs - #5 Angelo Posada (CA) VS UR Anthony Harris (NJ)
285lbs - #9 Daniel Herrera (IA) VS #6 Rocco Dellagatta (NJ)
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OSU interest level in bold
 
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Thanks for posting. I guess I have missed OSU interest in some of the bold. Burton is committed to V-Tech but there is interest in/from OSU? Which of the 190 is the interest in?
 
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175lb Final - #2 William Henckel (CT) VS #29 Ryan Burton (NJ)

Burton beat #1 Adam Waters (PA) 8-2 to advance to the finals. He hit some slice takedowns & showed strong defense against Waters. Henckel's been pretty dominant in the tournament so far, we'll see if he can keep it up against Burton.

P1:
Here we go. Circling & then tying up in the center.
Burton with a throw by, nothing & back to the tie up
Henckel passivity warning
Back to the tie up & circling, Burton working an underhook, nothing, 2-min left
Henckel pushing forward
Burton passivity warning, 1:45 left
Burton half shot, Henckel faking
Henckel 2nd passivity warning, goes on the clock, 1:15 left
Tying up, Henckel more active now, 1-min left
Burton shoots, Henckel fights it off
Burton shot clock point, 1-0, 35-sec left
Back to collar ties & pushing, restart, 15-sec
Time expires with the wrestlers tied up & circling.

P2:
Back to action, Henckel with a hard collar tie
Henckel throw by, nothing, Burton counters, nothing
Back to their feet, Burton with an over under body lock & takes Henckel out of bounds, 2-0 Burton
Tying up, breaking & circling, 2-min left
Burton shoots, Henckel whizzers, a wicked limp arm by Burton & he gets the TD, 4-0, restart, 1:39 left
Tying up, Henckel pushing forward, driving forward now, Burton on the edge, Burton circles back in & forces a stalemate, 1:07 left, restart
Henckel looking for an opening, but can't find anything
Henckel shoots, gets a leg, keeps working & the ref stops it for potentially dangerous. That's close. restart
Henckel coming forward, Burton snaps & chest locks Henckel, stalemate, restart, 13 seconds
Henckel drives off the whistle & gets a TD, 4-2, restart
Henckel with a chest wrap, working for a turn, but runs out of time

#29 Ryan Burton DEC #2 William Henckel 4-2
 
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SIAP, but Robideau’s scholastic career has been stellar. So far a 3X MN champ and a 5x finalist. Both finals losses were to Jore Volk who is 3 years older and both losses were within 1 TD. He has 6 losses in 5 years of MN HS wrestling. I can’t find all 6 losses but at least 3 have been to Volk.
 
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The most dominant guys in my opinion were:

Seidel (VTech) stud!!!
-I wish Ronnie Ram would’ve been there. RR beating Desmond and then losing to Seidel checks out with how it all went down this week.

Jax (??goodguys??) STUD!!!
-He’s just so unbelievably good. He’s got his own brand of funky. He is the definition of taking what’s given even when it is completely unconventional.

Robideau (GoodGuys!) Stud!!!
-He got revenge on Shaw and dominated everyone else. So solid.

Melvin Miller (??) FREAK!!!
-Fr/Soph aren’t supposed to be this developed and good. He sets the pace.

Ryan Burton (VTech??) STUD!!!
-Willie was all over him and he was right. Kid is so good. I’d absolutely love to see him in our orange.

Ludington (AzSt) STUD!!!
-what a badass. He was dominant.

Others
Kody and Ish did great. Craft has to be hurting. He was up big when he got caught and he would’ve walked out champ. The UNI boys got another good one in Caleb Freeman. He had some big moment. Iowa missed (🤣). Waters is a stud and shows you just how good Burton is. The stud Askren boys (Millard and Wolbert) struggled which goes to the point of them being such folkstyle kids. We shall see. It surprised me. The OK kids showed up and were looking good until the Semi’s. OU had a head to head with Braun and Hollingsworth. Sauce Zepeda may end up meeting his potential. He’s really good. Vega really showed up. Botero is another one to watch.
 
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AtownPoke said:
The most dominant guys in my opinion were:

Seidel (VTech) stud!!!
-I wish Ronnie Ram would’ve been there. RR beating Desmond and then losing to Seidel checks out with how it all went down this week.

Jax (??goodguys??) STUD!!!
-He’s just so unbelievably good. He’s got his own brand of funky. He is the definition of taking what’s given even when it is completely unconventional.

Robideau (GoodGuys!) STUD!!!
-He got revenge on Shaw and dominated everyone else. So solid.

Melvin Miller (??) FREAK!!!
-Fr/Soph aren’t supposed to be this developed and good. He sets the pace.

Ryan Burton (VTech??) STUD!!!
-Willie was all over him and he was right. Kid is so good. I’d absolutely love to see him in our orange.

Ludington (AzSt) STUD!!!
-what a badass. He was dominant.

Others
Kody and Ish did great. Craft has to be hurting. He was up big when he got caught and he would’ve walked out champ. The UNI boys got another good one in Caleb Freeman. He had some big moment. Iowa missed (🤣). Waters is a stud and shows you just how good Burton is. The stud Askren boys (Millard and Wolbert) struggled which goes to the point of them being such folkstyle kids. We shall see. It surprised me. The OK kids showed up and were looking good until the Semi’s. OU had a head to head with Braun and Hollingsworth. Sauce Zepeda may end up meeting his potential. He’s really good. Vega really showed up. Botero is another one to watch.
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Great recap. It is difficult to translate future success in folkstyle from a freestyle competition. Edge wrestling differs substantially, as do back points. That said, most good folkstylers are good freestylers if they have a good neutral game. I look for pace and arsenal and scrambling in these competitions.

Individually, I had many of the same names pop into my head. Regarding Burton, I guess Willie is better than FLO. FLO had him at #58 pfp, while Willie was top 10 pfp. His performance was not that of a #58 ranked guy. I think in this day and age, guys like Burton or Ludington need to be where the best opportunities are to roll around with the best. I'm not sure VT is the best place for a Burton long term, and now that DT is at OSU, maybe that flips the equation in your favor.
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
He's ours so don't get any of your dirty fingerprints on him please. ;)

He should be a freak. Trains in Bassett's basement wrestling room every day.
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We haven’t had a real Cael and DT head to head. All of these kids in ‘25 were already deep into the process and have their leanings or just aren’t wanted by Cael. In Blazes case I think if he commits to PSU… he was always leaning that way and if he doesn’t then he wasn’t. I know that seems strange but he’s a different cat.

‘26 might prove to have some true head to head competitions but Jax had supposedly been leaning and I’ll have to wait and see on Bo. Idk how intense the interest from Cael or DT will be. I can see it both ways. Maybe we can fight over Mocco but I can see the battle for Melvin being bloody unlike any of these others.
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
Backing Up Homer Simpson GIF
He's ours so don't get any of your dirty fingerprints on him please. ;)

He should be a freak. Trains in Bassett's basement wrestling room every day
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We haven’t had a real Cael and DT head to head. All of these kids in ‘25 were already deep into the process and have their leanings or just aren’t wanted by Cael. In Blazes case I think if he commits to PSU… he was always leaning that way and if he doesn’t then he wasn’t. I know that seems strange but he’s a different cat.

‘26 might prove to have some true head to head competitions but Jax had supposedly been leaning and I’ll have to wait and see on Bo. Idk how intense the interest from Cael or DT will be. I can see it both ways. Maybe we can fight over Mocco but I can see the battle for Melvin being bloody unlike any of these others.
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I've always thought Jax is OSU's to lose. Losing him would be a real loss. I think you get him. Gilman should be a draw.

Cael fights for everyone but my personal sense is that Mocco is in play for OSU more than PSU. Hope I am wrong.

Melvin Miller, IMO, is all in on PSU. I would be surprised if that changed.

I think OSU is still working on the 2025 class. I think at least one more committed guy flips to OSU. More to come.
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
I've always thought Jax is OSU's to lose. Losing him would be a real loss. I think you get him. Gilman should be a draw.

Cael fights for everyone but my personal sense is that Mocco is in play for OSU more than PSU. Hope I am wrong.

Melvin Miller, IMO, is all in on PSU. I would be surprised if that changed.

I think OSU is still working on the 2025 class. I think at least one more committed guy flips to OSU. More to come.
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Hope you’re right. Jax gets after it. Mocco would be a legacy. I’m sure PSU has the inside track on their pick of the litter.
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
That may be true today but once OSU shows success on the mat, and more importantly producing champions, it’ll be a dogfight.
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This may sound like a dick statement but we defined success on the mat well before PSU wrestling was blimp on the radar. My hope is DT takes that history with newer training methods and destroys the wrestling landscape like Cael did. All respect to Cael because he built PSU out of nothing.
 
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On Tulsa Time said:
This may sound like a dick statement but we defined success on the mat well before PSU wrestling was blimp on the radar. My hope is DT takes that history with newer training methods and destroys the wrestling landscape like Cael did. All respect to Cael because he built PSU out of nothing.
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To teenagers, what OSU did last century is irrelevant. Same with Iowa. Some day, PSU's dynasty will be in the past too. No basketball player is considering UCLA because of what John Wooden did in the 60s and 70s. This is very much a "what have you done for me lately" world. Like last 10 years world. My point, which seemed obvious, was that once DT creates a new current history at OSU, it will be "game on" against Cael on the recruiting front.
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
To teenagers, what OSU did last century is irrelevant. Same with Iowa. Some day, PSU's dynasty will be in the past too. No basketball player is considering UCLA because of what John Wooden did in the 60s and 70s. This is very much a "what have you done for me lately" world. Like last 10 years world. My point, which seemed obvious, was that once DT creates a new current history at OSU, it will be "game on" against Cael on the recruiting front.

You might be interested in this FLO article on team result trends since 2000.

www.flowrestling.org

NCAA Wrestling Team Results Through The Years - FloWrestling

A look back at the historical results from some of the top team performers at the 2023 NCA D1 Wrestling Championships.
www.flowrestling.org www.flowrestling.org
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Listen @Pennstate1985 I’m not going to have you coming on here with your numbers and graphs trying to run down the most dominant program in NCAA history… thin ice buddy… thin ice
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
To teenagers, what OSU did last century is irrelevant. Same with Iowa. Some day, PSU's dynasty will be in the past too. No basketball player is considering UCLA because of what John Wooden did in the 60s and 70s. This is very much a "what have you done for me lately" world. Like last 10 years world. My point, which seemed obvious, was that once DT creates a new current history at OSU, it will be "game on" against Cael on the recruiting front.
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Umm, I agree. The past has some cache. It helps with a fan base and with money, plus, most kids know a little bit of history (specially in their perspective states), but you’re right, “what have you done for me lately” is what matters most. It only benefits wrestling as a whole to have parity at some level. Having PSU so dominant has helped wrestling in that now, more money is being poured into the sport as well as innovation in training and philosophy. In turn, we are seeing the results at the world level.
 
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tom_v31 said:
Umm, I agree. The past has some cache. It helps with a fan base and with money, plus, most kids know a little bit of history (specially in their perspective states), but you’re right, “what have you done for me lately” is what matters most. It only benefits wrestling as a whole to have parity at some level. Having PSU so dominant has helped wrestling in that now, more money is being poured into the sport as well as innovation in training and philosophy. In turn, we are seeing the results at the world level.
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Pennsylvania's dominance of Jr. Nationals shows us that if OK State wants to regain our previous status that we are going to have to borrow or steal several wrestlers from Penn State. Oklahoma produces some great wrestlers but just not in the numbers of Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey and New York. David Taylor should greatly improve our chances to do this but as has already been mentioned it will not happen overnight. We are on the right path and the future looks bright.

LETS GO POKES!!!
 
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oberebo said:
Pennsylvania's dominance of Jr. Nationals shows us that if OK State wants to regain our previous status that we are going to have to borrow or steal several wrestlers from Penn State. Oklahoma produces some great wrestlers but just not in the numbers of Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey and New York. David Taylor should greatly improve our chances to do this but as has already been mentioned it will not happen overnight. We are on the right path and the future looks bright.

LETS GO POKES!!!
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I think it's like Michigan or Bama in football. Between the pairing of DT and OSU, we’ll be able to pull kids from anywhere. We just saw it with Robideau. The Minnesota guys on the Intermat board were pretty upset because he'd been a golden gopher the whole way, but when DT called it changed things. If rumors are true about us pushing for Burton then we'll see the same thing with a NJ kid. DT will have inroads and while Pennsylvania was already good they have gotten that much better because of PSU. DT will put building the OK high school wrestling at a premium imo. If you remember his introductory presser and interviews... two the of the first things he mentioned was building out the RTC and the importance of OK wrestling as a base.
 
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