Do You Want Socialized Health Care?

[07pilt]

Nope. They aren't the same things.

The first is a choice. The second a requirement.

You should know that you have brought this tedious pedantry upon yourself.

 

[Ostatedchi]

You should know that you have brought this tedious pedantry upon yourself.

In my line of work it pays to be precise in my language.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Nope. They aren't the same things.

The first is a choice. The second a requirement.

“Promote the general welfare”

 

[Ostatedchi]

“Promote the general welfare”

Okay, that's a start. Be more specific.

 

[Bitter Creek]

Thank you for amending your previous statement. This is closer to the truth.

African Americans had a right not to be enslaved, but it had to be recognized. All women had the right to vote, but it had to be recognized and protected. African Americans had a right to vote, but it had to be recognized and protected. And I believe all humans have a right to health care and it needs to be recognized and protected.

For my 2nd amendment rights, I should expect my purchases to be subsidized?

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

For my 2nd amendment rights, I should expect my purchases to be subsidized?

One could argue quite easily and reasonably why healthcare is a necessity and a gun isn’t.

 

[07pilt]

For my 2nd amendment rights, I should expect my purchases to be subsidized?

They are.

 

[Bitter Creek]

They are.

I need to quit paying full price.

Is there an agency where I can go sign up and get some highly discounted arms or maybe even free-to-me?

 

[Bitter Creek]

One could argue quite easily and reasonably why healthcare is a necessity and a gun isn’t.

I thought we were talking about rights

 

[07pilt]

I need to quit paying full price.

Is there an agency where I can go sign up and get some highly discounted arms or maybe even free-to-me?

Fuel ethanol is highly subsidized too and you don't have to sign up to get those discounts either.

 

[Bitter Creek]

Fuel ethanol is highly subsidized too and you don't have to sign up to get those discounts either.

I still want to know where you got your guns subsidized and if I can go through the same agency

 

[07pilt]

I still want to know where you got your guns subsidized and if I can go through the same agency

Same store you get your guns subsidized at. (That is they are subsidized at the production, and to a lesser extent, wholesale level)

 

[Bitter Creek]

Same store you get your guns subsidized at. (That is they are subsidized at the production, and to a lesser extent, wholesale level)

Is it based upon my ability to pay? my age? Seems like I pay the same as everyone else.

 

[07pilt]

Is it based upon my ability to pay? my age? Seems like I pay the same as everyone else.

Is your idea of what a subsidy is based entirely on housing and healthcare?

 

[Bitter Creek]

Is your idea of what a subsidy is based entirely on housing and healthcare?

No. I just keep seeing that healthcare is a right and I know from the ACA that if people can't afford to provide that right for themselves that they get a portion of it paid for by others.

I was just hoping that all rights could get funded by others.

 

[07pilt]

No. I just keep seeing that healthcare is a right and I know from the ACA that if people can't afford to provide that right for themselves that they get a portion of it paid for by others.

I was just hoping that all rights could get funded by others.

They are.

 

[Bitter Creek]

They are.

So, if I get to where I can't afford my firearms, I can get taxpayers to help me get a break on my cost.

That is fantastic news.

 

[07pilt]

So, if I get to where I can't afford my firearms, I can get taxpayers to help me get a break on my cost.

That is fantastic news.

You have heard of TANF and unemployment benefits I assume? Think of those as 2nd amendment back stops.

 

[Bitter Creek]

You have heard of TANF and unemployment benefits I assume? Think of those as 2nd amendment back stops.

Those will help lower the cost of my rights. Awesome, doesn't sound like a stretch at all.

 

[07pilt]

Those will help lower the cost of my rights. Awesome, doesn't sound like a stretch at all.

Lots of stuff lowers you cost, TANF and unemployment just are there to make sure you can always meet the cost.

Do you have an AR-15?

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Is it based upon my ability to pay? my age? Seems like I pay the same as everyone else.

No. I just keep seeing that healthcare is a right and I know from the ACA that if people can't afford to provide that right for themselves that they get a portion of it paid for by others.

I was just hoping that all rights could get funded by others.

So, if I get to where I can't afford my firearms, I can get taxpayers to help me get a break on my cost.

That is fantastic news.

Those will help lower the cost of my rights. Awesome, doesn't sound like a stretch at all.

When your ideology is pure self interest, those first person pronouns sure stack up. Notice the uni-perspective. Me, myself, and I and that's it. I me mine I me I me me I I me I me I me I What about me? I Me Mine. Mine Me Mine What about mine?

 

[Bitter Creek]

When your ideology is pure self interest, those first person pronouns sure stack up. Notice the uni-perspective. Me, myself, and I and that's it. I me mine I me I me me I I me I me I me I What about me? I Me Mine. Mine Me Mine What about mine?

Thanks. Insight from you means a lot.

 

[Ponca Dan]

One could argue quite easily and reasonably why healthcare is a necessity and a gun isn’t.

Fuel ethanol is highly subsidized too and you don't have to sign up to get those discounts either.

”...is highly subsidized.” In other words we pay taxes to give the subsidies so we can get the discounts. That sounds reasonable.

 

[Ponca Dan]

”...is highly subsidized.” In other words we pay taxes to give the subsidies so we can get the discounts. That sounds reasonable.

Oh, and I forgot to mention we then get to pay - what is it? about 18 cents per gallon? - federal tax on it when we buy it. Yeah, I think that’s a swell policy.